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Asante
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Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues.
#19397301 - 01/10/14 04:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please quit them and give it six months before going to the doctor to get severely addictive pharms like benzodiazepines or SSRI's.
Really, for most of you this is the case.
Pot greatly magnified my tendency to anxiety. They thought I was an anxious rapid cycling bipolar. No ma'am, I was a daily pot smoker. It took years for my mind to return to normal, but it did.
Quitting tobacco and coffee almost killed my anxiety issues and I feel so healthy now.
YES, YOUR MODERATE USE IS GIVING YOU ISSUES. Look there first for solutions to what ails your mind, rather than bad genes or psychs you only use once every full moon. The daily habits.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Asante] 1
#19397405 - 01/10/14 05:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Heh pot for me is just an hour or so long psychotic episode, so I have to agree there. But I also agree about coffee. Drinking some now and I find every time I do I feel kinda like shit for half an hour. How is this supposed to be stimulating, again? I like the taste though.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: circastes]
#19397509 - 01/10/14 06:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Then, maybe it is a sign to deal with the anxiety? Not to kill its messenger..
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Asante
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Icyus]
#19397530 - 01/10/14 06:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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In my experience and that of others pot tends to suppress anxiety and depression during the acute high but if you smoke it regularly the incidence of anxiety anbd depression in your sober life will go up.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Asante]
#19397809 - 01/10/14 08:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Been completely sober for a long time and am hoping to be given another chance on Ativan (a benzodiazepine) in a few days when I see my psychiatrist.
I'm starting to believe the traditional Chinese medicine view, a la depleted jing.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Asante]
#19398268 - 01/10/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Funny because I've been a daily coffee and pot user for the most part of a decade now and I don't have anxiety or mood issues really...
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Asante]
#19399538 - 01/10/14 02:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Uzziel]
#19399664 - 01/10/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Uzziel said: Funny because I've been a daily coffee and pot user for the most part of a decade now and I don't have anxiety or mood issues really...
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks.
I got a feeling that you wern't even thinking abouts getting any meds.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Asante]
#19400480 - 01/10/14 06:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Agreed 100% OP.
I started getting anxious thoughts in middle school that snowballed into some seriously crippling social anxiety that made my existence miserable. Depression is a gift in that it alerts you something is wrong, but it also makes everything else seem wrong, worsening anxiety.
I coped using weed every-night, later exclusively spliffs (I won't smoke unless there's bacco in my joint) and coffee during the day. It was a bandaid for my issues that eventually began to make things worse for me...so I'm gonna stop, all of it, so that I can work on my anxieties in the raw. They're definintly more workable when I'm not high or burnt out from anything
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: jimboob]
#19400610 - 01/10/14 06:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it depends on the person and the pot. Some pot is anxiety inducing though this can be modified by cooking it. Anything used every day is going to be a problem, cigs are known to be bad for the health and caffeine is not so great either. I find once a week pot cookie works great, puts me to sleep, no anxiety.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Asante]
#19402380 - 01/11/14 04:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Heh, for quite some time I thought I was slowly losing my mind from a mushroom trip I had, and obviously my daily weed usage had nothing to do with the increasing paranoia and delusions. :p
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Wiccan_Seeker said: YES, YOUR MODERATE USE IS GIVING YOU ISSUES. Look there first for solutions to what ails your mind, rather than bad genes or psychs you only use once every full moon. The daily habits.
I've been cutting everything in my life. I still use them all, but in vastly decreased amounts compared to only two months back. Coffee, alcohol, weed, even masturbating. The only thing I can't even touch is tobacco, that shit's got a stranglehold on me.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Turtletotem]
#19404064 - 01/11/14 02:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used pot for depression. Worst thing to do. Talk about being caught in a loop with your problems. Mind racing.
You forget how to breathe and relax. I'm meditating and it's teaching me to have my air flow through steadily and still my mind.
In return I'm more cooperative with everything
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Endure]
#19410991 - 01/13/14 02:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I disagree. I was a daily pot smoker for several months. Right now I haven't smoked in two weeks or so due to the holidays, and I plan on only being a weekend smoker when I get back into it because its more fun without a tolerance
I've never had these negative effects other people talk about besides the occasional instance of paranoia. But then I just remind myself I'm stoned and forget about it.
Anxiety significantly decreases for me when I smoke
It was a serious issue for me BEFORE I started smoking, and it went away around the time I began smoking once a week or more. I may have just grown out of it though.
Everyone reacts differently so don't generalize by saying this applies to everyone
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: lsdkiwi]
#19411049 - 01/13/14 02:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree only in part, I had issues LOONG before my use of bud. I do agree that nicotine and caffeine are my problems as they've been apart of my life for years before Mary Jane. Unfortunately nicotine has that stranglehold on me, every time I even think about quitting my temper and nerves skyrocket. My issues aren't anxiety tho. I have anger issues that have been increasing since I was a toddler (or so my parents say).
Mary Jane actually is the only thing that seems to help since I refuse to take any "western medications". Especially benzos or anything else my doctor tries to make me take. I was addicted to opiates for years and struggle with it almost daily (been clean for 1 year now). So I'm not going to trade one addiction for another.
I've smoked bud for years daily only giving it up when things get tight. I've never experienced side effects or "withdrawals" (notice the quotes as I'm a firm believer that mj has no withdrawals) when I have to take a break, other than I no longer have my control over my rage. Which like I said has been a problem long before my use of pot.
As stated above this is an individuals opinion and experiences. Just like I need weed to survive others just need to leave it be.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: Asante]
#19411083 - 01/13/14 03:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Please quit them and give it six months before going to the doctor to get severely addictive pharms like benzodiazepines or SSRI's.
Really, for most of you this is the case.
Pot greatly magnified my tendency to anxiety. They thought I was an anxious rapid cycling bipolar. No ma'am, I was a daily pot smoker. It took years for my mind to return to normal, but it did.
Quitting tobacco and coffee almost killed my anxiety issues and I feel so healthy now.
YES, YOUR MODERATE USE IS GIVING YOU ISSUES. Look there first for solutions to what ails your mind, rather than bad genes or psychs you only use once every full moon. The daily habits.

Word. 
I feel very similarly about regular marijuana use and coffee, but I'm not so sure about cigarettes; some people really seem to do better when they smoke. In particular, I've had several friends with either schizophrenia; every schizophrenic person I've ever known was a smoker and seemed to have an beneficial relationship to nicotine that others did not.
I hope that those reading this who are regular marijuana smokers and have emotional problems will consider Wiccan's words on their merits.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: hmmn]
#19411118 - 01/13/14 03:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP is right, of course, refering to people with existing anxiety and mood problems. For the cognitively-normal person, daily pot consumption, is of course, fine.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: hmmn]
#19411515 - 01/13/14 07:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with the OP 100% but there are interesting things going on other than just smoking cannabis with regard to mental disorders... CBD and schizophrenia being one of those.
“The results were amazing,” says Daniele Piomelli, professor of pharmacology at the University of California-Irvine and a co-author of the study. “Not only was [CBD] as effective as standard antipsychotics, but it was also essentially free of the typical side effects seen with antipsychotic drugs.”
“These exciting findings should stimulate a great deal of research,” says Dr. John Krystal, chair of psychiatry at Yale University School of Medicine, who was not associated with the research. He notes that CBD not only had fewer side effects, but also seemed to work better on schizophrenia’s so-called “negative symptoms,” which are notoriously hard to treat.
Read more: Marijuana Compound Treats Schizophrenia with Few Side Effects: Clinical Trial | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/30/marijuana-compound-treats-schizophrenia-with-few-side-effects-clinical-trial/#ixzz2qI2lAOD4
I've yet to experiment with pure CBD oil but its on my list of needs/wants at this point
Just sharing.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
#19412286 - 01/13/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Word...CBD is a very promising substance for medicinal use. It's effects are entirely different from those of THC. There are some other studies where THC and CBD are co-administered in mixtures of varying THC:CBD ratio with strikingly different effects. For example, CBD may block some of the well demonstrated detrimental effects that THC has on the hippocampus (a part of your brain that you need to make memories).
edit: this is pretty much irrelevant to the OP though. Marijuana that's available now has plenty of THC and comparatively little CBD.
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Re: Daily pot, cigarettes and coffee cause or worsen almost all of your anxiety and mood issues. [Re: lsdkiwi]
#19416289 - 01/14/14 08:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You guys must not understand weed isn't a Super drug in every aspect. When it's used for seizures and helps and nothing else does sure. But it shouldn't be a ' go to drug ' if your already severely depressed because your life is hell from your mental disorder weed will make it worse in the end. I don't know anyone. Anyone who is as happy as someone who is off weed and taking proper steps too happiness.
But there's a good chance schizophrenia, and depression increases significantly if it's existing on pot. If this were in person. I uwould just walk away from the conversation as soon as you try to defend pot for this, and would discredit everything you say following. I don't think any good Therapist who deals with these things would take you seriously either. Well I know they wouldn't I've talked to plenty. They went to school for 7 years to figure thought processes and your brain out. God forbid a schizophrenic thought enters your mind it will stay there. If it's one thing I know about weed users is that they become 'stuck' you literally stop seeing them grow as a person. Again It works for some, not nearly all so it should not be the go to drug. Nor taking everyday.
this is how all drugs work. At first you think it's helping, and then 6 months later your in a bigger hole then your previously were. Its temporary and is not goingto help the Majority of people with mental problems. Do you even know what happens to your brain chemicals from overuse/Addiction status? people think weed helps them with there injuries. If you want something that really helps eat the seeds or smoke what does not get you high, even ghen if your catering to your injury smoking weed is goingto effect your physical therapy and slow your progression. Weeds has always been more of a pain distractor then a pain number for me and others. I've had more injuries and surgeries then you and I've smoked weed everyday for five years, have seen 8 therapist, have talked with plenty of doctors. I realize this is a new age, but your living in lala land. The seeds that don't get you stoned are incredible for Mental health and physical health however
From what i understand if you are a sensitive person (sensitive nervous) things like coffee and weed are absolutely horrid for you.
Anyways have fun fucking with your receptor cells and partying and thinking in the long run it will help you.
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