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plektheplek



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Are we really bi-polar?
#19396591 - 01/09/14 11:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It seems to me that just about everybody that goes into a mental hospital is told they are bi-polar and need to take certain meds for their disease. It seems like they are just slapping the same old label on everybody they treat even if there isn't a thing wrong with them, they just had a really bad fucking day and ended up getting thrown into a mental institution for various different reasons. They were irrational, they were too lively, they were a risk to themselves, etc
I just wonder how accurate these diagnosis really are and if there really is a disease that needs to be treated
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supposedly i'm bi polar, not sure I agree with that diagnosis.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: plektheplek] 1
#19396641 - 01/09/14 11:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shitty psychiatrist just hear the words 'history of drug use/abuse' and immediately label you bi-polar. Its a good indication that you should keep shopping around for a competent doctor.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: Nova]
#19396962 - 01/10/14 01:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I totally agree with OP. It's the label they use for when they don't know exactly whats going on. I got diagnosed bi-polar, but I don't buy it. You have 1 nervous breakdown, yknow?
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: plektheplek] 1
#19396980 - 01/10/14 01:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ummm doctors pushing meds to get a kick back..
and todays parents arent allowed to beat the shit outta a kid to straighten him up.
its all fucked up man..
yes i do believe that some people are.. but at the rate we are going.. no fucking way... its a profit center.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: rackem]
#19396998 - 01/10/14 01:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm bipolar. Never been diagnosed but by definition id agree.
That being said I think everyone technically is. It's a way to push medication pure and sinple.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: plektheplek] 3
#19397226 - 01/10/14 03:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is a difference between the normal ups & down's that one has, and BPD. Is it overdiagnosed? Probably, but that doesn't mean that it's not a real disorder. BPD can be extremely debilitating. It's far more than being happy one day & sad the next. When you see a severe case, it's obvious that it's not a pill pushing strategy by the doctor, nor is it an overreaction by the patient. It's a serious disease.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: Dark_Star]
#19397242 - 01/10/14 04:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree.
I just don't know now that everything is loosely defined and it all has pills it's all bullshit.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: Dark_Star]
#19397257 - 01/10/14 04:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It comes along with psychosis, too.
I have bipolar disorder. When it hits me I don't get happy for one day and feel like shit the next.
Sometimes It's sudden and sharp. I go from normal, to overwhelming euphoria, to suicidal and back to normal in the span of a second. Fucks you up.
Are those like your symptoms, OP. Do you lose touch with reality?
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: healing]
#19397392 - 01/10/14 05:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was diagnosed bipolar but I swear I was abducted in the night and something stole my soul.
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Buncha nonsense. You'll find many scathing criticisms of the psychiatry industry.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: s240779] 1
#19397413 - 01/10/14 05:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Man... the western medicine is not knowledgable about anything, really..
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: plektheplek] 1
#19397437 - 01/10/14 05:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone has something that can be considered a mental illness. Psychiatry is a sham.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: Icyus] 1
#19397445 - 01/10/14 05:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're better off trusting the healthcare professionals than your own theories or opinions on the internet.
The aim of treatment is to provide as little medication for as little time as possible to return one to previous normal functioning. It's not just to 'sell big pharma'.
Pretty much everyone slams psychiatry on the internet, but all the psychiatrists I've met have been very smart people. They wouldn't be easily fooled into a field that is baloney.
You've got to be especially careful when you're already mentally ill and you start reading conspiracy-like opinions about the treatment you're receiving.
I say just go to a good community clinic, trust them, get it out of the way. If you catch these illnesses early you can be quite lucky and live normally.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: circastes]
#19397446 - 01/10/14 06:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ask them about their opinions about drug addiction if you want to find the most obvious road to bullshit. You treat a patient as a model, not the human mind.
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: circastes]
#19397458 - 01/10/14 06:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: You're better off trusting the healthcare professionals than your own theories or opinions on the internet.
The aim of treatment is to provide as little medication for as little time as possible to return one to previous normal functioning. It's not just to 'sell big pharma'.
Pretty much everyone slams psychiatry on the internet, but all the psychiatrists I've met have been very smart people. They wouldn't be easily fooled into a field that is baloney.
You've got to be especially careful when you're already mentally ill and you start reading conspiracy-like opinions about the treatment you're receiving.
I say just go to a good community clinic, trust them, get it out of the way. If you catch these illnesses early you can be quite lucky and live normally.
yeah.... do not trust yourself and be glad if you get to live a normal life as a slave?
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: circastes]
#19397487 - 01/10/14 06:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: Pretty much everyone slams psychiatry on the internet, but all the psychiatrists I've met have been very smart people. They wouldn't be easily fooled into a field that is baloney.
intelligent people believe in god, why wouldnt some believe in junk science
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If you catch these illnesses early you can be quite lucky and live normally.
hahaha... no. it's not like cancer where they can operate and remove some part that allows you to be normal again, if you have a mental illness, it'll always be there and while being drugged can help some, it isnt that much help for most
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19397498 - 01/10/14 06:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would anyone want to live "normal"? There you got your mental illness... stockholm syndrome, isnt it?
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Re: Are we really bi-polar? [Re: Icyus] 1
#19397507 - 01/10/14 06:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icyus said: Man... the western medicine is not knowledgable about anything, really..
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