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P.Zappatecorum
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The Art of the Jedi Flip
#19393462 - 01/09/14 12:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now that I have all three components required for a Jedi flip, I'm pondering what the best combination of the drugs would be. It seems like depending on which you take first and how long you space the doses apart, you could shape the curve of the trip and alter the experience appreciably. Also of course, the relative size of doses are going to shape the balance of the experience, too much of one or not enough of the other and you're not going to feel as complex an experience, so I'd really like to aim for a balanced trip where no one drug takes preeminence and I feel a pleasant synergy of all three.
I've done a few hippie flips and found that the ratio of mushrooms to MDMA can alter the experience across a pretty large spectrum of experience. With low doses of MDMA, the molly seems to add a crystalline sparkle and positive energy to what otherwise feels like a mushroom trip, chasing away all the bad juju and adding some glitter and rainbows, whereas larger doses of molly seem to blow the mushrooms out of the water once it kicks in and I go from tripping to rolling, albeit a more spiritual and ecstatic roll than usual, however, the mushroom visuals and mindspace all but disappear.
I've combined low doses of molly with acid and I didn't notice a lot of difference, perhaps less anxiety and slightly sharper visuals, more intricate networks growing on the surfaces of objects, but I've yet to try a full dose of MDMA to where I felt the roll "click" while I was on acid.
So my question to you jedi flippers, what doses and time frames have you used when jedi flipping, and how did it affect the experience? I'm thinking of popping 2 tabs of really clean, strong acid (1 tab hits me like 1.5-2 tabs of the other stuff I've tried), 2.5, maybe 3g of dried cyanescens or ovoideocystidiata (I have both, not sure which would be better, I also have cubes but I don't want to waste my time with them) and then 150-200mg of some really strong molly. I'm thinking my time frame would be 1. Take acid 2. Start drinking mushroom tea at the hour mark, as soon as the cid's visuals start 3. Pop the molly when I'm done drinking the tea.
In terms of my metabolism, this would make it so mushrooms would start to take effect as the acid began to slowly get more noticeable, stacking the two come-ups on top of each other, then the roll would kick in and hit me right about the time the mushrooms and LSD would be hitting their peak intensity. After that, the mushrooms would gradually fade and I'd be left with a decent amount of time with the molly and L going strong. After the roll started to taper off and the acid was lingering I would probably smoke a fat bowl of hash and start to relax and enjoy the comedown.
How does that time frame sound to you guys? Also, please share your own experiences as I'd like to hear about them.
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ONSLAUGHTA
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Never heard of this, sounds nice, may try it at a festival this year
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MindDrips
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Re: The Art of the Jedi Flip [Re: ONSLAUGHTA]
#19394838 - 01/09/14 05:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wowzas! 
That plan sounds groovy, but definitely sounds intense to me. I hardly ever find any Molly or MDA around here, so I haven't Candy Flipped or Hippie Flipped before. Your plan sounds like all three will peak around the same time, and with the combination of 2 hits and 2.5-3g, it sounds like you'll be pretty damn spun!
I'm not at all discouraging you, but I have no personal experience with combining psyches and MDMA. I hope you enjoy your experience and that others give good advice, friend!
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Re: The Art of the Jedi Flip [Re: MindDrips]
#19395853 - 01/09/14 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No experience with the Jedi Flip at all. Actually never heard of it til now. Candy flipping and hippy flipping yes...but JEDI?
Gotta say it sounds pretty crazy to me. I have nothing to add to this other then I don't think I would try it haha. Seems like something that sounds like fun on the surface but would lead to me freaking the fuck out. Mushrooms make me think weird and I would probably quickly convince myself I have overdosed and am dying. I have tripped a lot and on various things at various levels. Combining a bunch of stuff just seems...dangerous? Like your pushing it too far.
I would love to hear how this turns out though! Good luck with whatever you choose to do. I send you good happy vibes and hope you come back on here and tell us all about it.
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GreySatyr
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I'd start drinking the tea 15 after and then the Molly.
Have fun!
Take a break after you come down.
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P.Zappatecorum
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Re: The Art of the Jedi Flip [Re: GreySatyr]
#19396040 - 01/09/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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GreyMorph said: I'd start drinking the tea 15 after and then the Molly.
Have fun!
Take a break after you come down.
Tea me hits in 20-30 minutes so that would have me experiencing the mushroom come-up as the first effects of the trip before the acid. Is that what you would recommend? Since the acid lasts so long I was thinking of delaying the entry of the mushrooms and molly, I'll consider your recommendation if you elaborate a bit.
@Sgt.Pepper, mixing MDMA and mushrooms is great, the molly really mellows the mushroom trip out. The visuals are more intense and the visionary aspect of it is intensifies but all the dark energy is gone, I've never had a moment of unpleasantness while hippie flipping.
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SgtPepperNo9
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P.Zappatecorum said:
@Sgt.Pepper, mixing MDMA and mushrooms is great, the molly really mellows the mushroom trip out. The visuals are more intense and the visionary aspect of it is intensifies but all the dark energy is gone, I've never had a moment of unpleasantness while hippie flipping.
I can understand that and by no means am saying I haven't combined stuff or flipped before. MDMA definitely gets your mind in the most positive of positive states.
Will the ganja also be involved? I forget that not everyone automatically throws that in there too like I do.
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P.Zappatecorum
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SgtPepperNo9 said:
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P.Zappatecorum said:
@Sgt.Pepper, mixing MDMA and mushrooms is great, the molly really mellows the mushroom trip out. The visuals are more intense and the visionary aspect of it is intensifies but all the dark energy is gone, I've never had a moment of unpleasantness while hippie flipping.
I can understand that and by no means am saying I haven't combined stuff or flipped before. MDMA definitely gets your mind in the most positive of positive states.
Will the ganja also be involved? I forget that not everyone automatically throws that in there too like I do.
I'm planning this pretty far in advance, probably won't have the time to do it for a month or so, but I will definitely smoke some hash after the mushrooms have worn off and the most intense period is over. I like to be really present for the come up and peak and don't like the way weed clouds my perception, it seems to dull psychedelics for me. I generally use it to smooth out the jittery/burnt out feelings that can come along with the come down, but really I'll probably just play it by ear.
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I have done this by
Eating 4 hits of cid
1.5hrs later ate 4gs of cubes
45Mins mixed .2 of fire mdma in redbull and chugged
Worked great by far my favorite combo ever
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