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OfflineJaredTheJeweler
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I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB!
    #19396074 - 01/09/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Alrighty so le cultivation of le mushrooms has been my favorite hobby ive ever had and enjoy the shit out of it everyone here on the shroomery and the knowledge they have shared with me. although im not an avid poster I lurk....a lot...like a lot a lot. ive had great fun with this hobby but unfortunately I must be leaving my passion for something more...well...legal..

so with that being said i would like to do a huge monotub of Penis Envy as my "farewell" gift to myself. I was considering a 105qt monotub but think that might be too small for the amount of spawn i have. (i know this is still small to some some as ive heard of kiddie pools filled completely somewhere on these forums:crazy2:)
I typically do high spawn to sub ratios but even with a 105qt i think i might be lacking room for potential dicks to be growing.

the amount of PE spawn i have handy is about 20 quarts almost fully colonized now (approximately 10,000 ml) that i want to fit all into this single tub! I hear people typically use about 10qts spawn for 105qt monotubs and being that i have 20 id like to use a tub around the size of 150qt in order to keep the spawn to sub ratio higher as i prefer.

I have a couple questions however and would like your opinion on some things.
1st I read somewhere here that a too high spawn to sub ratio can lead to moisture retention issues. Is this true? this is whats preventing me from just making a 105qt....well that and bigger in this case is better :sporedrop:
2. do they even make tubs in the general 150qt size that im looking for? im sure they do but i mean in the dimensions im looking for...not a 2-3 foot tall tub that cant really be used too easily...im taking about a 15 inch height tub or close to it.

When making this tub im looking for about a 3-4 inch deep sub that will be wrapped in thick black garbage bag liner.
Im planning on using hpoo and verm as sub with at a 7:3 ratio with added gypsum
as for the holes for the tub im planning on making 3 1 1/2in holes length wise on each side and one 1 1/2 inch holes on width sides. For FAE ill be adding 4 1 1/2inch holes. one on each side as high as i can get them.

So what do you think?! Id like to hear your opinions and any advice youre willing to share! :nyan:


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: JaredTheJeweler]
    #19396106 - 01/09/14 09:43 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

You'll end up with a trich bucket if you do a 105-quart monotub from a multispore syringe.  For the amount of spawn you have, consider three 66-quart tubs.  There's no sense putting all your eggs in one basket, and you don't want to have to toss ten quarts in the trash because one of them was bad.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: Psilicon]
    #19396138 - 01/09/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

No comments on the process since I am still playing with cakes....but if you are looking for a big tub that isn't very tall check into the type that are used for storage under beds.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19396147 - 01/09/14 09:56 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

They aren't tall enough when you add the sub and fruit height.

I agree with the three smaller tub idea.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: Psilicon]
    #19396151 - 01/09/14 09:57 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I know with the size of the tub its going to be a risk wit contam but that's also why I prefer higher spawn ratios to help myself out a little with that issue even with ms. as for the 3 66qt tubsqt ... well....COME ON!!!! I wanna go out with a BANG!!! It seems the odds are against me but I really do want to go for a do or die tub as my last salute. I already have a couple 66qt pe tubs doing absolutely fantastic right now but really wanna tread outside of the safety zone on my last grow....even if it means I could be bathing in trich. I always do thorough inspections of my jars including smell before I choose to spawn them because as you said one can ruin the whole bunch, but on this last tub id like to really go outside of the safety zone and experiment! thanks for youre comments though ill definitely take them into consideration if I come to to the realization im in over my head...which seems to be the case


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19396156 - 01/09/14 09:59 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

ya bootser is right. I own a few of those under bed tubs and they just wont cut it height wise...I might hve to make my own adjustments if theyre all I can find


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: JaredTheJeweler]
    #19396158 - 01/09/14 10:00 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Big Lots had 120 Qt. tubs for sale. That's as big as you are going to get AFAIK.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: bootster]
    #19396170 - 01/09/14 10:03 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

This would be cool to see if it all works.  Post pics!

Oh and the spongebob avatar.  I don't like wasting a lot of trip time watching tv/movies but when I do...spongebob is a go to.  You ever watch it tripping?  I'm constantly trying to make sense of what is clearly completely nonsense the entire show.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: JaredTheJeweler]
    #19396171 - 01/09/14 10:03 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I say go for it and take pictures. 

Maybe your could find a larger tub in the gardening section of a hardware store.  Something plastic that you keep garden tools in.  :shrug:

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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: bootster]
    #19396175 - 01/09/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

pe super tub :rockon:


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: Psilicon] * 2
    #19396178 - 01/09/14 10:05 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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van der griegen said:
You'll end up with a trich bucket if you do a 105-quart monotub from a multispore syringe.



How can you possibly know this?

We do not need this kind of negativity....it very well can work.

Last time I checked clean spawn was clean spawn, no matter where it came from or what size tub was being used.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: bootster]
    #19396196 - 01/09/14 10:10 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:whathesaid:

I know I saw them at Big Lots because the biggest one I could find was 105 Qts. This bad boy is 120 Qts and clear.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19396205 - 01/09/14 10:12 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

ill make damn sure to provide photo evidence of this rare occurrence!
as for spongebob....unfortunately no....I have never seen it tripping as I don't like watching many movies or shows while tripping but I have seen futurama which surprisingly I was very content with and am planning on watching a few more episodes this week while in a proper mindset :crazy2:


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: JaredTheJeweler]
    #19396225 - 01/09/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

oooooooohhh thank you bootster and CMOS sounds like I have some shopping to do tmrw! thanks for the good vibes tripdawg420 and thanks for stopping by notahacker420 :grin:


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: JaredTheJeweler]
    #19396234 - 01/09/14 10:19 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: PussyFart]
    #19396255 - 01/09/14 10:23 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Quote:

van der griegen said:
You'll end up with a trich bucket if you do a 105-quart monotub from a multispore syringe.



How can you possibly know this?

We do not need this kind of negativity....it very well can work.

Last time I checked clean spawn was clean spawn, no matter where it came from or what size tub was being used.




Taught a friend to grow and then he pulled this one, despite my misgivings for exactly the reason stated.  Two out of three contaminated because the spawn wasn't clean, but appeared to be.  I was helping him prepare grain and substrate and even housed two of the damn things after his mom came to town, so I was pretty pissed off about the whole thing.  Definitely the kind of lesson I want to pass on to newbs, and especially if they want this to be their last grow.

Another issue with 105-quart tubs is getting enough airflow.  The middle portions of the tubs have issues when they're so far away from the holes in the sides, as we found out with the one tub that didn't contaminate.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: Psilicon]
    #19396288 - 01/09/14 10:31 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

hmmm Im glad you brought up the fae problamo. ill probably end up increasing the 4 airflow holes to 2 inches instead of 1 1/2. also I think itll be smart to give it a good fanning 2-3 times a day just to make sure my middle dicks can get enough air. ill also have 2 HEPA filtered fans running and occasional open windows in the room to ensure clean quality air is available  :biggrin:


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: Psilicon]
    #19396300 - 01/09/14 10:34 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Taught a friend to grow and then he pulled this one, despite my misgivings for exactly the reason stated.  Two out of three contaminated because the spawn wasn't clean, but appeared to be.  I was helping him prepare grain and substrate and even housed two of the damn things after his mom came to town, so I was pretty pissed off about the whole thing.  Definitely the kind of lesson I want to pass on to newbs, and especially if they want this to be their last grow.



So because your friend had hidden contams in his spawn means the same will always happen to everybody that tries to go big?

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Another issue with 105-quart tubs is getting enough airflow.  The middle portions of the tubs have issues when they're so far away from the holes in the sides, as we found out with the one tub that didn't contaminate.



Soundls like your friend needed more holes, preferably towards the center, where it was not getting enough airflow......it's a big tub.....

I am not saying he should or should not do it, and I am agreeing with you that he should not throw all his eggs in one basket, because I wouldn't.....but there is no guarantee that he will get trich and fail like you are making it seem.

He has just as big of a chance of succeeding as he does failing.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: PussyFart]
    #19396332 - 01/09/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

personally I wouldn't use one huge tub for the obvious reasons but if you are willing to throw all your chips on the table and take a gamble I say go for it.


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Re: I wanna go out with a bang! PE SUPERTUB! [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19396409 - 01/09/14 10:58 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)



bigger projects have succeeded on this site..im with ya on this one brother :cool: :thumbup:


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