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    #19395200 - 01/09/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I am having some trouble need some tips have looked and can not find anything that answers my problem. I got my PF jars to colonize did the dunk and roll technique got them in fruiting chamber temp at 74 with ultrasonic humidifier running every hour in a half for 15 minutes fanning twice a day been five days no sign of fruits however. Any tips someone can give me?


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Re: Newb that needs some help [Re: Godhead1]
    #19395208 - 01/09/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Probably just wait, but you can get tips in the mushroom cultivation forums.


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Re: Newb that needs some help [Re: teknix]
    #19395244 - 01/09/14 06:40 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I have been this is my first successful time getting them to colonize so I may just be being a little impatient. I have checked there and read several books after my third failure. Just checking to make sure I do not screw them up.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Godhead1]
    #19395250 - 01/09/14 06:40 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #19395261 - 01/09/14 06:42 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Patience padawan :yoda:


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19395288 - 01/09/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Pics of your setup would help us help you.
What ki.d of fruiing chamber (fc) do you have?
You should not need the ultrasonic.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19395314 - 01/09/14 06:51 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:whathesaid:
I'd nix the ultrasonic...pending pics of your setup, but you likely don't need it. 

5 days is nothing man, sometimes takes 2 weeks just to show.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: 1down5up]
    #19395366 - 01/09/14 07:00 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I'm pretty curious to see them myself. What does the colonization look like on the surface? I have a thread in the cultivation section if you would like to check there and see if anything they said may be helpful or if you think my situation is akin to yours


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19395389 - 01/09/14 07:03 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I will post some here in a few minutes but it is the setup from the magic mushroom growers guide. I used a cooler setup up with 2 liter bottles connected to ultrasonic humidifier.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Godhead1]
    #19395479 - 01/09/14 07:20 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Read security and safety before you go posting too many pics. A colonized cake is no biggy, but a fruiting cake can be incriminating.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: teknix]
    #19395504 - 01/09/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Thank You for the heads up.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Godhead1]
    #19395506 - 01/09/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Ultrasonics are tricky to use (I use one myself but it has a variable control knob). Getting it to work as a forced air + humidity device without a control knob with bottles like that is a real bitch, but possible.

I <3 mine, they're not for everyone. :laugh:

Try bypassing the bottles and just fogging up the chamber, and then once it's foggy in there, fan all the fog out so evaporation occurs after you put the lid back on.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Quexl]
    #19395540 - 01/09/14 07:33 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

how many times a day should I fog it up and then fan it?


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Godhead1]
    #19395560 - 01/09/14 07:37 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Every chamber has different requirements. There's no solid rules when it comes to the system we're using. I'd say the larger the chamber volume, the less frequent the exchanges (but the longer it should be fogged up).

My ~20 gallon one I did 4-5/d a day, my ~40 gallon about 2-3/d when full.

edit: and I always had 1/8" holes at the perlite horizon, or below it, to help dissipate co2. :laugh:

**editedit: Actually just wait a little too, 10-14 days is normal to see anything from a PF cake in my experience.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Quexl]
    #19395771 - 01/09/14 08:16 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Here is pictures of my setup. I also have my ultrasonic humidifier running every hour and a half for 15 minutes is this to often? I am just wondering. I do not want to develop overlay. If anyone has pictures of what overlay looks like I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. I uploaded pics to my profile I am having trouble attaching them to this message.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19395813 - 01/09/14 08:24 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I added pics of my setup if you would take a look they are under my profile.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Godhead1]
    #19395847 - 01/09/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Wow, you worked hard on that thing. Apologies for hijacking your post with all my replies. XD few people use ultrasonics anymore.

Other people with more experience will chime in after me. Probably telling you to make something totally different.

If it were mine, I'd add 2" of perlite, get it up off of the floor, and use a hygrometer to rate the moisture output of your hose to get it to ~95%. Add or remove bottles until you find the sweet spot.

Or get this: http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/27849-kidsline-ultrasonic-whale-humidifier.html

It looks goofy, but it has a control knob.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: teknix]
    #19395898 - 01/09/14 08:47 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I checked out your pics and have completely ZERO experience with that type of set up.  I wouldn't start worrying too much until you are a couple weeks in.  Sometimes you have pins right away sometimes you don't.  I apologize if you already stated it above but did you let your cakes consolidate?  If you want to see pins faster then let them consolidate longer until you have some invitro pins if you can stand waiting. 

Humidity may be an issue.  In my SGFC I have constant humidity because of the perlite.  They are in a humid environment 24/7 only dropping a little with fanning.  Then again you have that humidifier going quite often so I don't know.  Seems like too complicated of a set up for just doing cakes.  If you have the time and money I would suggest the SGFC.  Works well and is simple.  The more simple the less room for error. 

Are you misting them too before fanning? 



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Read security and safety before you go posting too many pics. A colonized cake is no biggy, but a fruiting cake can be incriminating.




Thanks for increasing my paranoia. :mad:


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: Quexl]
    #19395942 - 01/09/14 09:00 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah I just went with the one that had five stars LOL. The humidifier has a control knob I keep it on low. The place where I reside is currently winter so I tried to improvise and put a pyrex dish in the bottom with a fish tank heater in it so that I could regulate the temp it is at seventy four constantly. After doing much research I came across several easier setups. I have already invested a lot of money into this setup and want to get it working I know it is trial and error but I have not had any luck the last four times.


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Re: Newb that needs some help (moved) [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19395953 - 01/09/14 09:03 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I may have also birthed them to soon I did it at about 15 days. However, they were fully colonized when I did the dunk and roll. Could this be why they are taking so long to fruit?


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