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Re: GRE [Re: badchad]
    #19397973 - 01/10/14 09:15 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Nice points. Although I have read about Psy.D. Programs that offer tuition waivers. Actually there is one near me but I did not find any interest in their program. I think the program benefits depend on the school.

Are you studying psychology?

At this point I am interested mostly in Clinical Health Psychology, as listed at Ohio University.

I am very interested in programs such as the Center for Disease Control's DEBI program (diffusion of effective behavioral interventions). I read an article last semester about the DEBI program's attempt to reduce HIV in prone populations throughout America. The attempt, in relation to the article I am referring to, was mostly a failure. Apparently the locals thought that the DEBI program field workers were too demanding and opinionated. It seems that culture played a big role and the field workers did not take that into consideration, as some of them reported.

That kind of thing is interesting to me. Although I like to study psychology for myself too. I like the subject and I don't want to be a rich psychologist. Therapist, no way.

I think I am more interested in giving service to communities by means of health psychology.

But who knows. My interests could change along the course of my studies.


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Re: GRE [Re: XUL] * 1
    #19398018 - 01/10/14 09:26 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I studied behavioral pharmacology, but it had some degree of overlap with psychology.

I know nothing about the DEBI program, but it sorta-kinda sounds more like experimental psych.  If this is indeed the case, a PhD in experimental psych. might be the way to go.  It's paid for, and admission should be (relatively) easy.

More importantly, an MS probably won't advance your career much more than a BS.  It'll help get you hired, but in many sciences, there is a clear distinction between jobs for people with a BS/MS, and PhDs.


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Re: GRE [Re: XUL]
    #19398081 - 01/10/14 09:42 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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â—¾Minimum GPA of 2.75
â—¾Minimum GRE scores of 150 on verbal and quantitative components, and a 29 minimum score on analytical writing

On a separate note.

Have any of you had success with obtaining federal grants for graduate school? Even after you used them for your bachelors?

How did you finance graduate school?




I got a 150 on verbal without studying. I think verbal would be something difficult to improve on by studying. They basically give you paragraphs to read, which read like academic papers, and then ask abstract questions about each paragraph. For me, it was actually pretty tough because I didn't know any of the answers with certainty and just made educated guesses.

As far as math I was impressed with my score (147). The furthest I went was trigonometry. You would have to be better than me in math to get a 150. My weakest area, imo, was geometry. Can't remember that much but maybe lost some points on fractions/exponents? Also, at least 7 years had passed since my last math class. So if it sounds like you are decent in math, and more skilled than me (which doesn't take much) then you should score 150.

Analytical writing goes from 0 to 6. Maybe they are looking for a 2.9? I scored a 4.5.

When you get to grad school they LOVE to hand out loans! Luckily - I didn't build up any debt in undergrad. They give me about $9500 per semester and since I only take 2 classes, and the cost of my semester is about $3500, I get to keep the leftover $6000 per semester.


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Re: GRE [Re: badchad]
    #19398088 - 01/10/14 09:43 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I know nothing about the DEBI program, but it sorta-kinda sounds more like experimental psych.  If this is indeed the case, a PhD in experimental psych. might be the way to go.  It's paid for, and admission should be (relatively) easy.




I will keep that in mind for sure. Thank you.

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More importantly, an MS probably won't advance your career much more than a BS.  It'll help get you hired, but in many sciences, there is a clear distinction between jobs for people with a BS/MS, and PhDs.




Like you said, probably. Regardless, studying for an M.S. would be for my own curiosity, or to prepare for further studies. I also feel that earning a degree, whether it be a bachelors or a masters, is a learning process which helps students better develop skills to teach themselves - even after graduation has long passed.

I am curious. What is behavioral pharmacology? It sounds interesting.


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Re: GRE [Re: XUL]
    #19398106 - 01/10/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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When you get to grad school they LOVE to hand out loans! Luckily - I didn't build up any debt in undergrad. They give me about $9500 per semester and since I only take 2 classes, and the cost of my semester is about $3500, I get to keep the leftover $6000 per semester.




Who is they? Who did you go through?


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Re: GRE [Re: XUL]
    #19398240 - 01/10/14 10:18 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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When you get to grad school they LOVE to hand out loans! Luckily - I didn't build up any debt in undergrad. They give me about $9500 per semester and since I only take 2 classes, and the cost of my semester is about $3500, I get to keep the leftover $6000 per semester.




Who is they? Who did you go through?




Federal government. Stay far away from the banks. Wow I'm glad I was denied years ago a student loan through Discover. The government has very reasonable loan repayment schemes.

https://fafsa.ed.gov/


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Re: GRE [Re: Confucian]
    #19398339 - 01/10/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Federal government. Stay far away from the banks. Wow I'm glad I was denied years ago a student loan through Discover. The government has very reasonable loan repayment schemes.

https://fafsa.ed.gov/






Mmm. Yes, I just wonder if I will qualify for federal grants during graduate studies or will I be limited to their loan programs? Regardless, yes, I think we can both agree that federal loans offer the lowest interest rates.

Hell, I even applied for FAFSA for this semester, but I don't think I will qualify for any grants since this is my second bachelors. I wonder if they give out more grants for graduate studies?

At this point I am paying in cash, and it's back breaking for me.


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Re: GRE [Re: XUL]
    #19398556 - 01/10/14 11:39 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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I am curious. What is behavioral pharmacology? It sounds interesting.




In the broadest sense, its exactly what you would think:  The study of how drugs (e.g., pharmacology) effect the behavior of organisms.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: GRE [Re: XUL]
    #19398726 - 01/10/14 12:13 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I took it in 85 and 96, and it has changed since then. There wasn't any writing writing, just filling in ovals with #2 pencil, and the 2nd time on computer. We had verbal, quant. and logic sections and subject tests. First time it got me a free ride for 5 years; did best on the subject test.

      I just used the GRE study books. For verbal, I think the vocabulary lists were useful. Other than that, you have been studying in English for 16 years, so you probably aren't going to learn new verbal skills while studying for the test.

    The quant section was easier than I thought it would be. Review the common algebra stuff like quadratic equations. In geometry the study books only cover 3 or 4 things like the Pythagorean theorem, and there wasn't any other geometry on the test; very easy questions.

    When I took the tests there was a logic section, but it was discontinued. There are now two writing sections. In the first one you write an essay on a specified topic. They have released a pool of potential topics. In the second writing section they give you an argument, and you write a critique of the argument.

    If you are taking the subject test in a social science, besides the theoretical and descriptive knowledge, be prepared for many questions that involve interpreting visual displays of quantitative information like graphs and tables. This will depend on the subject. If you took the test for econ there would be a lot of curves. Review your intro stats text, particularly the early chapters. There will be more questions of that form than later stats topics like hypothesis testing, analysis of variance, regression etc.

    As one of the posters above indicated it is a lot easier to get free grad school in purely academic fields, because it would be hard to induce people to study these for many years if the department wasn't funding you. If you are going into a field that pays well from the start, you are more likely to have to pay for grad school.


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Re: GRE [Re: Brian Jones]
    #19398731 - 01/10/14 12:14 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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