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jet li
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: divo]
#19003658 - 10/20/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have yet to find a Psilocybe or Deconica without a easily discernible pellicle.
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Hashfinger
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: jet li]
#19003679 - 10/20/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I vote liniformans.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: jet li]
#19003722 - 10/20/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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jet li said: I have yet to find a Psilocybe or Deconica without a easily discernible pellicle.
The appropriately named Deconica apelliculosa.
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Joie


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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joie]
#19003739 - 10/20/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A quick check later, Deconica montana also doesn't have a seperable pellicle.
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joie]
#19003880 - 10/20/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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jet li
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Lepkaun]
#19003898 - 10/20/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess I haven't found those lol. Also, he found these in a clearcut, woody substrate right? So, isn't P. liniformans out? Then again, P. stuntzii and P. baeocystis are multi-habitat species, so why not P. liniformans?
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OregonMushys
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: jet li]
#19004220 - 10/20/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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intresting
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maynardjameskeenan
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Alan Rockefeller said: You should ask Joe Ammirati o study it. And send some to Virginia Ramirez for good measure. She is one of the best in the world with regards to Psilocybe and Deconica.
But really the best place for this collection is the Institute of Ecology in Xalapa.
Have you considered P. liniformans?
Hey so, I still haven't sent any of these off yet but I'd like to. I know it's been awhile but I get sidetracked easily. It hasn't been a huge priority. Since my season is over with and I have nothing better to do I'd like to send them off to someone who can work a microscope better than me. I'm kinda worried about sending them out of the country just in case they are active.
Anyway I took some more picture of them today.




Notice how distant the stem is from the gills? All of them are like this too. I think they may be a Deconica because they smell nothing like a Psilocybe, they smell kinda like old leaves.
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Alan Rockefeller
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maynardjameskeenan said: I'm kinda worried about sending them out of the country just in case they are active.
You don't have to put your real return address on it.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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maynardjameskeenan said: I'm kinda worried about sending them out of the country just in case they are active.
You don't have to put your real return address on it.
I'll send some to Mexico I suppose. If you get me arrested my wife will gut you.
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Alan Rockefeller
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You are not going to get arrested for mailing around scientific collections. The mail police are used to finding gallon bags of cubes, they are not going to care about a gram or so...
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nomadbrad
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This collection has been on my mind heavily lately. I really want to know what they are!
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Bubbles85]
#19392834 - 01/09/14 09:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting....
Isn't the lack of blue bruising on the stem and cap a case for them not being psilocybe? Yes, I know pells and liberty caps don't always bruise blue but this is a substantial mushroom....
Did the cap change color when dried?
First glance... I would have said ovoid myself but... There's Like 200 species of psilocybe and I have only seen a handful of those....
Say in a bog? How about p. tampanensis? Or related species... Rare...
Maybe we should have a pool to guess what they are...
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: HarryL]
#19392887 - 01/09/14 09:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never saw this, throw one in the mail for me!
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Alonso CortesPerez
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Notice how distant the stem is from the gills? All of them are like this too. I think they may be a Deconica because they smell nothing like a Psilocybe, they smell kinda like old leaves.
Hello, I would like to study this collection if you agree. I want to know if it is a Psilocybe or Deconica. Psilocybe caerulipes from Mexico, very little farinaceous smell and almost no blue stain. It is possible that it is a species of Psilocybe. Great find!
Edited by Alonso CortesPerez (01/09/14 11:41 AM)
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maynardjameskeenan
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Alonso CortesPerez said: Notice how distant the stem is from the gills? All of them are like this too. I think they may be a Deconica because they smell nothing like a Psilocybe, they smell kinda like old leaves.
Hello, I would like to study this collection if you agree. I want to know if it is a Psilocybe or Deconica. Psilocybe caerulipes from Mexico, very little farinaceous smell and almost no blue stain. It is possible that it is a species of Psilocybe. Great find!
I'll absolutely send some to you, it's an honor. I think Alan gave me your address. I'll send sample out to you and Joust before the end of the weekend.  Would 5 fruit bodies be enough?
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nomadbrad
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I have a bunch from the first time I found them if you need more. I'm excited to see the ball rolling on this one again.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: nomadbrad]
#19395289 - 01/09/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sure this doesn't help much, I got a few pictures of the spores and gill section (I can't make of any structures other than spores). How to I use my stage micrometer to make measurements? When I use the 100/1.25 OIL magnification it just looks shitty and blurry, I can't make anything out. I'll keep trying.
Edited by maynardjameskeenan (01/09/14 06:49 PM)
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Byrain

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You don't use a stage micrometer to make measurements, you use it to calibrate your reticle (Or software).
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