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victor101
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19452003 - 01/21/14 09:28 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: You could post pics and we could give you a good idea if they are good cubensis or not
I always find it is better to eat them on a pretty empty stomach
The pics are at the beginning of this thread. The remaining shrooms i cultivated looked even better.
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PirateSwazey said:
Honestly dude you're state of mind going into it sounds like you were probably still skeptical about wether or not your mushies were ok to eat... that probably had a lot to do with the experience you had... remember set & setting are everything (set refers to state of mind). Your mushies are fine dude, like we're saying:
Try again with more next time!
MS potency can vary a lot 
You may be right! I did have anxiety about if my shrooms were good or not, since this is my first time growing and I did run into some issue as discussed in the beginning of this thread! I was especially concerned about the blue/green color on the cakes when fruiting. It's still really hard for me to convince myself it was truly bruising and not contams, since I have no experience. Maybe that anxiety took over during my trip!!
But could my physically feeling horrible deter my trip to the point of having no visuals(closed-eye) whatsoever??
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: victor101]
#19456880 - 01/22/14 10:17 AM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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victor101 said: But could my physically feeling horrible deter my trip to the point of having no visuals(closed-eye) whatsoever??
I think so, yes.
You would not believe the power of the mind over the body.
What I think happened is you were apprehensive about the possibility of getting sick from eating the mushies, which would be safe to eat even if trichoderma sporulated on them (but it didn't), and that mindset took the driver's seat of your trip. The mind poisoned the body and there you had the excess physical discomfort.
When I was younger I used to throw up EVERYTIME I ate mushrooms because it was a preconceived thing I had in my head... "I'm going to eat these mushies and have a good time, but I know it's going to make me puke before I start tripping." - that was my self talk.
After I didn't puke one time, I've never puked again... and I've never had that mindset going into it again either...
There's always the possibility that you got unlucky with the potency, which is why I followed the prescription of McKenna & told you to take more next time 
Best luck & happy days bud~
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19457733 - 01/22/14 02:01 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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Thanks guys for assuring me I appreciate it!
I read in this forum about lemontek which sounds really appealling to me since some people who normally get nausea from munching on shrooms, seem not to with the lemontek. This is apparantly becuase the "digestion/breakdown" has already begun and so the the body has less digestion of it to deal with.
Do you think i should go down this route?
Also, about how to make a lemontek, i read you crush the shrooms and soak in lemonjuice for 1/2 hour, but do I strain out the shrooms before drinking or do I leave em in?
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: victor101]
#19457748 - 01/22/14 02:06 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I actually got more nausea from the lemon tek but that's just me. I only make tea these days.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: mushmagic]
#19457781 - 01/22/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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4-6 grams dry is the way to go. My favourite way to take them is ground up in a bud buster/grinder and mixed with melted chocolate/hot chocolate. The chocolate is a mild maoi and actually slightly intensifies the trip. Being ground to dust like that makes the trip come on quicker and be more intense, but doesn't last as long also doesn't seem to cause any digestive issues - nausea etc. I've seen many people puke from eating whole mushrooms. Never caused me to do it though.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: vikingsc]
#19457798 - 01/22/14 02:17 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I also like to add the mixed mushroom dust/ melted chocolate to ice cube trays and freeze them and have a bunch of prepared "chocolates" in the freezer for whenever you want one or two.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: mushmagic]
#19457806 - 01/22/14 02:18 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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Check out my tut on how to make chocolates.
It's super simple & I bet it will help with your stomach.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19457827 - 01/22/14 02:22 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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PirateSwazey said: Check out my tut on how to make chocolates.
It's super simple & I bet it will help with your stomach.
Nice. That's pretty similar to how I do it. The double boiler is a must^^^^^^^ but I don't like dark chocolate so I just melt chocolate bars. And ice cube trays will work if you don't have a mold like that.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: vikingsc]
#19457863 - 01/22/14 02:30 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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vikingsc said: The double boiler is a must^^^^^^^ but I don't like dark chocolate so I just melt chocolate bars. And ice cube trays will work if you don't have a mold like that.
That's not a double boiler, just 2 pots that are similar sized 
I really think the dark chocolate helps with the taste... it's easier to set too.
No need for a fancy mold, I just like to deliver a professional looking product
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19457919 - 01/22/14 02:45 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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vikingsc said: The double boiler is a must^^^^^^^ but I don't like dark chocolate so I just melt chocolate bars. And ice cube trays will work if you don't have a mold like that.
That's not a double boiler, just 2 pots that are similar sized 
I really think the dark chocolate helps with the taste... it's easier to set too.
No need for a fancy mold, I just like to deliver a professional looking product 
Ya, that's what you call a "double boiler" when your not directly heating the pot, but heating it from the boiling water in the other pot below. A large metal bowl on top of a pot of boiling water is what I used for a double boiler.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19457935 - 01/22/14 02:48 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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hmmm too much work for me for the chocolate recipe, but thanks anyways.
I think I'll go the tea route then, along with some ginger.
But I'll wait for a few weeks to pass by first before trying one more time!
I'll be back and let you guys know the result.
Thanks
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: victor101]
#19458030 - 01/22/14 03:06 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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victor101 said: hmmm too much work for me for the chocolate recipe, but thanks anyways.
I think I'll go the tea route then, along with some ginger.
But I'll wait for a few weeks to pass by first before trying one more time!
I'll be back and let you guys know the result.
Thanks
Not really as hard as it sounds. Pretty easy and worth the couple extra minutes. But do it however you like. They are your mushrooms after all.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: victor101]
#19458059 - 01/22/14 03:12 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I hear ya OP, the chocolates are a bit much to make for just yourself.
They are a nice treat to give away though...
I passed some out at Widespread Panic on NYE and got alot of 
@viking: Ya ya I know that's technically a double boiler but they also sell designated "double boilers" at the stores... which is totally unnecessary.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19458160 - 01/22/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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PirateSwazey said: I hear ya OP, the chocolates are a bit much to make for just yourself.
They are a nice treat to give away though...
I passed some out at Widespread Panic on NYE and got alot of 
@viking: Ya ya I know that's technically a double boiler but they also sell designated "double boilers" at the stores... which is totally unnecessary.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: vikingsc]
#19458201 - 01/22/14 03:43 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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Lately iv been getting nauseated from shrooms regardless of how I take them. I find if I make myself puke right as I start peeking I still trip hard but the rest of my night is much more pleasant.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: MudaFuka]
#19458284 - 01/22/14 03:59 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Lately iv been getting nauseated from shrooms regardless of how I take them. I find if I make myself puke right as I start peeking I still trip hard but the rest of my night is much more pleasant.
Have you tried grinding them to dust and adding em to chocolate? Doesn't hurt to fast for a while ahead of time if you're prone to puking on them.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: vikingsc]
#19458297 - 01/22/14 04:01 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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^^^^ It can make the trip more intense on an empty stomach as well - and there's nothing to puke on an empty stomach
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: vikingsc]
#19458326 - 01/22/14 04:06 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I generally take them on an empty stomach witch is why I don't mind puking so much. I think I'm mainly getting sick because Iv been very stressed out lately. Also Iv been forcing bad trips to try and work out some things in my head.
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: MudaFuka]
#19458372 - 01/22/14 04:12 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ahhh. Like they say - no such thing as a bad trip - just challenging ones
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Re: First-time grower need feedback if my shrooms safe to eat please [Re: MudaFuka]
#19458382 - 01/22/14 04:13 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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victor101 said: hmmm too much work for me for the chocolate recipe, but thanks anyways.
I think I'll go the tea route then, along with some ginger.
But I'll wait for a few weeks to pass by first before trying one more time!
I'll be back and let you guys know the result.
Thanks
DO not disregard the chocolates, they are definitely worth the effort and especially in your situation. They make the mushrooms easier on your system and make for a great trip. Better though to use real chocolate and not hershey/sees/nestle . . . They have artificial flavors so maybe not as much actual cocoa/cocoa butter
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