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Ever run into someone who smells of shit? I sometimes wonder if they didnt wipe well enough or missed a spot. Thats pretty uncomfortable though.
Then i start wondering if i smell bad too, but am just used to it. Do we all smell like shit?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: ManianFH]
#19393796 - 01/09/14 01:50 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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They just have poor hygiene. Which probably means they are poor. The most likely smoke cigarettes and are also most likely to be overweight.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Patlal]
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More likely, they stepped in some dog shit. People do that all the time without realizing it.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods] 1
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koods said: More likely, they stepped in some dog shit. People do that all the time without realizing it.
If I step in dog shit, I will defintely notice the smell.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: ManianFH]
#19393822 - 01/09/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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As I'll show--It was he and George Baso who hit on the fantastically simple truth that everybody in America was walking around with a dirty behind, but everybody, because the ancient ritual of washing with water after the toilet had not occurred in all the modern antisepticism--Says Dave "People in America have all these racks of drycleaned clothes like you say on their trips, they spatter Eau de Cologne all over themselves, they wear Ban and Aid or whatever it is under their armpits, they get aghast to see a spot on a shirt or a dress, they probably change underwear and socks maybe even twice a day, they go around all puffed up and insolent thinking themselves the cleanest people on earth and they're walking around with dirty azzoles--Isn't that amazing? give me a little nip on that tit" he says reaching for my drink so I order two more, I've been engrossed, Dave can order all the drinks he wants anytime, "The President of the United States, the big ministers of state, the great bishops and shmishops and big shots everywhere, down to the lowest factory worker with all his fierce pride, movie stars, executives and great engineers and presidents of law firms and advertising firms with silk shirts and neckties and great expensive traveling cases in which they place these various expensive English imported hair brushes and shaving gear and pomades and perfumes are all walkin around with dirty azzoles! All you gotta do is simply wash yourself with soap and water! it hasnt occurred to anybody in America at all! it's one of the funniest things I've ever heard of! don't you think it's marvelous that we're being called filthy unwashed beatniks but we're the only ones walkin around with clean azzoles?"--The whole azzole shot in fact had spread swiftly and everybody I knew and Dave knew from coast to coast had embarked on this great crusade which I must say is a good one--In fact in Big Sur I'd instituted a shelf in Monsanto's outhouse where the soap must be kept and everyone had to bring a can of water there on each trip--Monsanto hadnt heard about it yet, "Do you realize that until we tell poor Lorenzo Monsanto the famous writer that he is walking around with a dirty azzole he will be doing just that?"--"Let's go tell him right now!"--"Why of course if we wait another minute... and besides do you know what it does to people to walk around with a dirty azzole? it leaves a great yawning guilt that they cant understand all day, they go to work all cleaned up in the morning and you can smell all that freshly laundered clothes and Eau de Cologne in the commute train yet there's something gnawing at them, something's wrong, they know something's wrong they dont know just what!"--We rush to tell Monsanto at once in the book store around the corner.
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eir is a medical condition that can make you smell like poop. It like comes out of your pores and there is nothing you can do about it. That must suck so bad.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: highc]
#19393847 - 01/09/14 02:04 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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What does the inside of your nose smell like?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: robbyberto] 2
#19393855 - 01/09/14 02:06 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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robbyberto said: What does the inside of your nose smell like?
Coke
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: robbyberto] 1
#19393861 - 01/09/14 02:06 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: As I'll show--It was he and George Baso who hit on the fantastically simple truth that everybody in America was walking around with a dirty behind, but everybody, because the ancient ritual of washing with water after the toilet had not occurred in all the modern antisepticism--Says Dave "People in America have all these racks of drycleaned clothes like you say on their trips, they spatter Eau de Cologne all over themselves, they wear Ban and Aid or whatever it is under their armpits, they get aghast to see a spot on a shirt or a dress, they probably change underwear and socks maybe even twice a day, they go around all puffed up and insolent thinking themselves the cleanest people on earth and they're walking around with dirty azzoles--Isn't that amazing? give me a little nip on that tit" he says reaching for my drink so I order two more, I've been engrossed, Dave can order all the drinks he wants anytime, "The President of the United States, the big ministers of state, the great bishops and shmishops and big shots everywhere, down to the lowest factory worker with all his fierce pride, movie stars, executives and great engineers and presidents of law firms and advertising firms with silk shirts and neckties and great expensive traveling cases in which they place these various expensive English imported hair brushes and shaving gear and pomades and perfumes are all walkin around with dirty azzoles! All you gotta do is simply wash yourself with soap and water! it hasnt occurred to anybody in America at all! it's one of the funniest things I've ever heard of! don't you think it's marvelous that we're being called filthy unwashed beatniks but we're the only ones walkin around with clean azzoles?"--The whole azzole shot in fact had spread swiftly and everybody I knew and Dave knew from coast to coast had embarked on this great crusade which I must say is a good one--In fact in Big Sur I'd instituted a shelf in Monsanto's outhouse where the soap must be kept and everyone had to bring a can of water there on each trip--Monsanto hadnt heard about it yet, "Do you realize that until we tell poor Lorenzo Monsanto the famous writer that he is walking around with a dirty azzole he will be doing just that?"--"Let's go tell him right now!"--"Why of course if we wait another minute... and besides do you know what it does to people to walk around with a dirty azzole? it leaves a great yawning guilt that they cant understand all day, they go to work all cleaned up in the morning and you can smell all that freshly laundered clothes and Eau de Cologne in the commute train yet there's something gnawing at them, something's wrong, they know something's wrong they dont know just what!"--We rush to tell Monsanto at once in the book store around the corner.
I keep my azzole clean because you never know when somebody may want to lick it
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robbyberto said: What does the inside of your nose smell like?
Your finger.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Patlal]
#19393868 - 01/09/14 02:08 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Patlal said: They just have poor hygiene. Which probably means they are poor. The most likely smoke cigarettes
You drink alcohol, which probably means you have poor hygiene, right Patlal ?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Constantine] 1
#19393875 - 01/09/14 02:10 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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he's kinda right--i'm poor and i have bad hygiene--but my azzhole is clean at least
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Constantine]
#19393879 - 01/09/14 02:12 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Patlal said: They just have poor hygiene. Which probably means they are poor. The most likely smoke cigarettes
You drink alcohol, which probably means you have poor hygiene, right Patlal ?
Alcohol is spread in every class of societey.
Cigarettes are mainly in the poor class.
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you'd have to have some extremely fucking bad hygiene to smell like feces.
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Not really. Cold showers MAY be free, but you want to have a comfortable shower, the hot water is one of your biggest energy expenses.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
#19393900 - 01/09/14 02:17 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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You're right. I forgot not everyone lives in an apartment building.
Still, even if you burn seal oil for heat, enough warm water to wash your pits and groin regularly is practically free.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Patlal]
#19393912 - 01/09/14 02:20 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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koods said: More likely, they stepped in some dog shit. People do that all the time without realizing it.
If I step in dog shit, I will defintely notice the smell.
I stepped in cat shit once, I didn't notice the smell until I was in a warm room with a dozen other people...
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Synthe]
#19393932 - 01/09/14 02:25 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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at festivals you will occasionally walk past some wook that smells like fuckin shit
its gross
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Bassfreak]
#19393940 - 01/09/14 02:27 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Bassfreak said: at festivals you will occasionally walk past some wook that smells like fuckin shit
its gross
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Bassfreak]
#19393944 - 01/09/14 02:28 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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He who smelt, dealt.
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I AM MADE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Synthe]
#19393973 - 01/09/14 02:34 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Cigarettes are mainly in the poor class.
I do not smoke cigarettes, but that statement is obviously complete bullshit. I hope you were joking because if not then your intelligence is severely lacking
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19393990 - 01/09/14 02:39 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Depends what coast. East Coast and Old world, smoking can still be in upper class, and middle class but generally, it is lower class not so much middle (in America)
West coast, smoking is practically ONLY lower class.
Poor Class is actually a misnomer. The correct term is lower class, because lower class allows you to still have a lot of money, just not a lot of the same tastes hence a lot of successful artists who are rich but low class.
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I will say if anyone gives up on learning, and developing skills, that is about as LOW CLASS as you can get.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19394032 - 01/09/14 02:49 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Cigarettes are mainly in the poor class.
I do not smoke cigarettes, but that statement is obviously complete bullshit. I hope you were joking because if not then your intelligence is severely lacking
What I wrote has been statistically proven.
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LiquidGlass said:
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Cigarettes are mainly in the poor class.
I do not smoke cigarettes, but that statement is obviously complete bullshit. I hope you were joking because if not then your intelligence is severely lacking
What I wrote has been statistically proven.
Got any credible sources backing that up?
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Apollyphelion said: Depends what coast. East Coast and Old world, smoking can still be in upper class, and middle class but generally, it is lower class not so much middle (in America)
West coast, smoking is practically ONLY lower class.
Poor Class is actually a misnomer. The correct term is lower class, because lower class allows you to still have a lot of money, just not a lot of the same tastes hence a lot of successful artists who are rich but low class.
Sounds like just your opinion. Any credible studies ?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Patlal]
#19394068 - 01/09/14 02:57 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Cigarettes are mainly in the poor class.
I do not smoke cigarettes, but that statement is obviously complete bullshit. I hope you were joking because if not then your intelligence is severely lacking
What I wrote has been statistically proven.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/wk/mm6035.pdf#page=21 Tl;dr = below poverty line 50% higher percentage that smoke compared to above poverty line.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19394073 - 01/09/14 02:58 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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I don't know about low class, but if you smoke, you definitely smell like shit. Poor hygiene, and poor diet. The last time I ate pizza hut, the next day I reeked of fucking nasty crap. That all said, we're humans, we all smell, get over it.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19394077 - 01/09/14 02:59 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Patlal said:
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Cigarettes are mainly in the poor class.
I do not smoke cigarettes, but that statement is obviously complete bullshit. I hope you were joking because if not then your intelligence is severely lacking
What I wrote has been statistically proven.
Got any credible sources backing that up?
There are plenty of studies.
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Smoking prevalence is highest among those with lowest family incomes and the gap increases with age.
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Canadians whose families are supported primarily through wages are less likely to smoke than those whose primary source of income is work-related social transfers (workers compensation and employment insurance benefits).
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Smoking prevalence is twice as high for the lowest family income category as for the highest (37% vs. 20% for men and 30% vs. 16% for women)
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19394081 - 01/09/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Not to mention those types of studies are completely flawed anyway. The types of people who take those stupid surveys are definitely not representative of the population as a whole. Do you really think somoene of high class would take the time to take some stupid survey about smoking. Hell no, I sure as hell would not. I have turned down surveys every single time they were offered
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass] 1
#19394087 - 01/09/14 03:01 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: Not to mention those types of studies are completely flawed anyway. The types of people who take those stupid surveys are definitely not representative of the population as a whole. Do you really think somoene of high class would take the time to take some stupid survey about smoking. Hell no, I sure as hell would not. I have turned down surveys every single time they were offered

So you ask for proof and once you get it you to try pretend it doesn't exist? You're deluded dude. It's a fact. A much higher percentage of lower income people smoke compared to higher income people
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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I used to work in a phone shop, selling mobiles and phone plans. some of the people who came in were just utterly disgusting. I'm a pretty chill sorta bloke but holy moly some people actually made me start heaving. I was with one person and I had to get up and walk away before I hurled.
edit: None of these people actually smelt like shit though. Just disgusting and unwashed. The early morning alcoholics always smelt of beer and ciggies they had covered themselves in from the night before/morning. One bloke, the worst, smelt like dogs, filthy disgusting neglected dogs, he was a bike with the most ratty facial/head hair like he had never ever showered and rolled around in his house that had probably never been cleaned full of animals and their shit and garbage and filth.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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That study does not say anywhere that cigarettes are mainly in the poor class. It says that there are a higher percentage of smokers below the poverty line, but also that smoking is still widespread and prevalent in all classes.
It is not "mainly in the poor class". It is all over
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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LiquidGlass said: That study does not say anywhere that cigarettes are mainly in the poor class. It says that there are a higher percentage of smokers below the poverty line, but also that smoking is still widespread and prevalent in all classes.
It is not "mainly in the poor class". It is all over
But it is MUCH more prevalent in lower income people. The study I posted said rates are approximately two times higher for lower income brackets.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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So you ask for proof and once you get it you to try pretend it doesn't exist? You're deluded dude. It's a fact. A much higher percentage of lower income people smoke compared to higher income people
Sorry but that is not proof. NOWHERE does it say smoking is mainly for lower people income. IT is not "much" higher. It is a 10 percent difference and there is still widespread smoking among higher classes.
Proof? Hardly
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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A difference of 18.3 percent to 28.9 percent is not 2x higher. Quit trying to twist the study
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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For someone who's not an upper class cigarette smoker you're strangely passionate about the smallest details of this thing.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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And still, it is not representative of the population as a whole. they are surveying a TINY percent of the population and making a guess about what everyone else does . . .
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I just like to play devils advocate when people throw out random info as if it was complete fact
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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I think the onus is then upon you to disprove it. As yet I haven't noticed that you have done so.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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LiquidGlass said: And still, it is not representative of the population as a whole. they are surveying a TINY percent of the population and making a guess about what everyone else does . . .
It's called sampling and people go to college to learn how to do it properly.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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LiquidGlass said: And still, it is not representative of the population as a whole. they are surveying a TINY percent of the population and making a guess about what everyone else does . . .
It's called statistics. You clearly have absolutely no understanding of them. Please have a look at statistical significance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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LiquidGlass said: A difference of 18.3 percent to 28.9 percent is not 2x higher. Quit trying to twist the study
This is a quote directly out of the PDF I posted.
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Smoking prevalence is twice as high for the lowest family income category as for the highest (37% vs. 20% for men and 30% vs. 16% for women)
I also posted this quote in my earlier post but you very clearly did not read it.
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I am not making any claims so I feel I have nothing to prove. I have challenged peoples claims and no one has any sufficient evidence. Even the study does not say smoking is mostly in the lower class, just that there is a difference in percentage.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: ManianFH]
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mick said: Ever run into someone who smells of shit? I sometimes wonder if they didnt wipe well enough or missed a spot. Thats pretty uncomfortable though.
Then i start wondering if i smell bad too, but am just used to it. Do we all smell like shit?
That's how you know if a motherfucker is stupid. If they stink and don't intend to do anything about it, they're an idiot.
I once sat behind a black girl on the bus who had dreads and somehow the stench of her hair made it's way to my nostrils and the way it smelled was just downright fucking awful. I was thinking "Oh my god, how can somebody be comfortable with themselves smelling this way. Jesus christ"
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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I know of statistics and while it is a good study, it does not prove anything. It deals with probabilities of what might or might not happen. It makes predictions. It does not prove any real hypothesis.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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LiquidGlass said: And still, it is not representative of the population as a whole. they are surveying a TINY percent of the population and making a guess about what everyone else does . . .
That seems like a claim to me, I'm happy if it is not though. But again, you are saying that someone else is posting lies (or skewing a representation). That warrants some level of proof.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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LiquidGlass said: I know of statistics and while it is a good study, it does not prove anything. It deals with probabilities of what might or might not happen. It makes predictions. It does not prove any real hypothesis.
You're right. Sampled studies are completely worthless. We as a people should disregard all information we have ever obtained through the use of sampling. It's not like the field has been heavily researched for decades or anything. /s
There's playing devil's advocate, and then there's making a fool of yourself. It's pretty clear which category you fall into.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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LiquidGlass said: I know of statistics and while it is a good study, it does not prove anything. It deals with probabilities of what might or might not happen. It makes predictions. It does not prove any real hypothesis.
You're right. Sampled studies are completely worthless. We as a people should disregard all information we have ever obtained through the use of sampling. It's not like the field has been heavily researched for decades or anything. /s
There's playing devil's advocate, and then there's making a fool of yourself. It's pretty clear which category you fall into.
It is so funny when people have nothing better to argue so they start putting words in peoples mouth. Where did I ever say we should disregard all info that we ever got from sampling? I admit it does have some merits in society, but nonetheless it cannot "prove" anything and is no replacement for what actually happens in the real world.
And regardless the statistics shown do not show that smoking is mostly for people that are under the poverty line. Yes there is more, but there is still a shitload of people above the poverty line that smoke, so it is really a baseless argument
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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So for of 3 out of 10 poor smokers, you have 2 out 10 rich smokers. WOw HUGE difference there
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: ManianFH]
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GG alin smelled like that all the time I'm sure. Pooped on stage a lot too.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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LiquidGlass said: I know of statistics and while it is a good study, it does not prove anything. It deals with probabilities of what might or might not happen. It makes predictions. It does not prove any real hypothesis.
You're right. Sampled studies are completely worthless. We as a people should disregard all information we have ever obtained through the use of sampling. It's not like the field has been heavily researched for decades or anything. /s
There's playing devil's advocate, and then there's making a fool of yourself. It's pretty clear which category you fall into.
It is so funny when people have nothing better to argue so they start putting words in peoples mouth. Where did I ever say we should disregard all info that we ever got from sampling? I admit it does have some merits in society, but nonetheless it cannot "prove" anything and is no replacement for what actually happens in the real world.
And regardless the statistics shown do not show that smoking is mostly for people that are under the poverty line. Yes there is more, but there is still a shitload of people above the poverty line that smoke, so it is really a baseless argument
10% is a massive difference. Between 20% and 30% it is 1.5 times higher! The study I posted also said 16% vs 30%, which is a 14% difference. According to all of the studies posted (and MANY more) that is a statistically significant number, which means that although it is technically an estimate, it has an EXTREMELY high probability of being correct. That is how properly executed statistical sampling works. It is not intended to be a "replacement for what happens in the real world" - it is a statistical model of the real world.
I never claimed that smoking is "mostly for people that are under the poverty line" (what does mostly even constitute?). I said the probability that someone in a lower income bracket smokes is SIGNIFICANTLY (yes, 14% IS significant) higher than those in higher income brackets.
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Alright, listen guys
Poor people smoke more than people with money.
Uneducated people smoke more than educated people
Of course, when you're ueducated, you are more than likely poor.
Because it isn't enough to be poor, you need an expensive addiction too.
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lololololol
yea, old women that are shut ins in their houses smell like this too. you run into them at the grocery store with long as fuck toenails while they are wearing birkenstocks or something.
god only knows what these people do with their time...
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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LiquidGlass said: I know of statistics and while it is a good study, it does not prove anything. It deals with probabilities of what might or might not happen. It makes predictions. It does not prove any real hypothesis.
You're right. Sampled studies are completely worthless. We as a people should disregard all information we have ever obtained through the use of sampling. It's not like the field has been heavily researched for decades or anything. /s
There's playing devil's advocate, and then there's making a fool of yourself. It's pretty clear which category you fall into.
It is so funny when people have nothing better to argue so they start putting words in peoples mouth. Where did I ever say we should disregard all info that we ever got from sampling? I admit it does have some merits in society, but nonetheless it cannot "prove" anything and is no replacement for what actually happens in the real world.
And regardless the statistics shown do not show that smoking is mostly for people that are under the poverty line. Yes there is more, but there is still a shitload of people above the poverty line that smoke, so it is really a baseless argument
10% is a massive difference. Between 20% and 30% it is 1.5 times higher! The study I posted also said 16% vs 30%, which is a 14% difference. According to all of the studies posted (and MANY more) that is a statistically significant number, which means that although it is technically an estimate, it has an EXTREMELY high probability of being correct. That is how properly executed statistical sampling works. It is not intended to be a "replacement for what happens in the real world" - it is a statistical model of the real world.
I never claimed that smoking is "mostly for people that are under the poverty line" (what does mostly even constitute?). I said the probability that someone in a lower income bracket smokes is SIGNIFICANTLY (yes, 14% IS significant) higher than those in higher income brackets.
Dude, you jumped into the middle a debate I was having with someone else who said that smoking is mainly for poor people. I was not even addressing any claims you made. Good job on arguing something that was totally pointless though 
From the article:
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Smoking prevalence generally decreased with increasing education and was higher among adults living below the poverty level (28.9%) than among those at or above the poverty level (18.3%)
That is in the "results" section of the article.
That equates to approximately 3 out of 10 for poor people, and 2 out of 10 for rich people. Are you seriously trying to imply that that is huge difference? LMFAO
That IS NOT a significant difference and if you cannot see that then you are definitely impaired
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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Smoking prevalence generally decreased with increasing education and was higher among adults living below the poverty level (28.9%) than among those at or above the poverty level (18.3%)
That is in the "results" section of the article.
That equates to approximately 3 out of 10 for poor people, and 2 out of 10 for rich people. Are you seriously trying to imply that that is huge difference? LMFAO
That IS NOT a significant difference and if you cannot see that then you are definitely impaired
10% is incredibly significant, what are you smoking?
I'm guessing cigarettes.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19394740 - 01/09/14 05:21 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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But out of ten people, its just one more person. One isn't a lot of people man.
Just once I'd like to see someone in here say "Hey wow, your well reasoned argument and facts really opened my eyes, I'm going to stop needlessly arguing now." Some day.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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Smoking prevalence generally decreased with increasing education and was higher among adults living below the poverty level (28.9%) than among those at or above the poverty level (18.3%)
That is in the "results" section of the article.
That equates to approximately 3 out of 10 for poor people, and 2 out of 10 for rich people. Are you seriously trying to imply that that is huge difference? LMFAO
That IS NOT a significant difference and if you cannot see that then you are definitely impaired
10% is incredibly significant, what are you smoking?
I'm guessing cigarettes.
LOL ok one person difference is a lot
ANd no I do not smoke cigarettes. Tobacco is a terrible habit and smoking it makes me feel disgusting
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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Smoking prevalence generally decreased with increasing education and was higher among adults living below the poverty level (28.9%) than among those at or above the poverty level (18.3%)
That is in the "results" section of the article.
That equates to approximately 3 out of 10 for poor people, and 2 out of 10 for rich people. Are you seriously trying to imply that that is huge difference? LMFAO
That IS NOT a significant difference and if you cannot see that then you are definitely impaired
You think 50% higher rate isn't significant? Would you feel the same if someone told you had a 50% better chance of getting cancer than everyone else?
When it comes to human behavior statistics, 50% is fucking HUGE.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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Smoking prevalence generally decreased with increasing education and was higher among adults living below the poverty level (28.9%) than among those at or above the poverty level (18.3%)
That is in the "results" section of the article.
That equates to approximately 3 out of 10 for poor people, and 2 out of 10 for rich people. Are you seriously trying to imply that that is huge difference? LMFAO
That IS NOT a significant difference and if you cannot see that then you are definitely impaired
You think 50% higher rate isn't significant? Would you feel the same if someone told you had a 50% better chance of getting cancer than everyone else?
When it comes to human behavior statistics, 50% is fucking HUGE.
Thank you. Finally, someone else who understands statistics.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: ManianFH]
#19397956 - 01/10/14 09:11 AM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Shower after you shit, problem solved. I've had friends that smelled of shit and they lived in houses filled with animals that piss and shit everywhere....... no surprise where the smell came from. I always smell like soap and pot, I'm great.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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Smoking prevalence generally decreased with increasing education and was higher among adults living below the poverty level (28.9%) than among those at or above the poverty level (18.3%)
That is in the "results" section of the article.
That equates to approximately 3 out of 10 for poor people, and 2 out of 10 for rich people. Are you seriously trying to imply that that is huge difference? LMFAO
That IS NOT a significant difference and if you cannot see that then you are definitely impaired
You think 50% higher rate isn't significant? Would you feel the same if someone told you had a 50% better chance of getting cancer than everyone else?
When it comes to human behavior statistics, 50% is fucking HUGE.
I dont know what article you are reading but if you see my quote it is directly from the article posted and says nothing about 50%. Those were the final results and it is only a difference of 10%
And, 10% is not a big difference at all
scroll down to page 20, bottom left paragragp titled "results". It says nothing about a difference of 50%
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30% is 50% more than 20%
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3/10 is 50% more than 2/10. Seriously, that's 6th grade math.
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 God wherever you live must be so fucking lame.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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koods said: 30% is 50% more than 20%
I can't believe he's still arguing 
He hasn't made a single remotely valid argument the entire time.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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Damn wtf are you guys smoking? IT is a 10% difference
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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30% = 30/100 20% = 20/100 20*0.5=10 20+10=30
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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It's not. If you don't understand why, you'll just have to take our word for it... It's 50%. Me thinks you are trolling, however.
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When we are talking about a range of percentages going from 0% to 100%, 28.9% is not 50% greater than 18.3%
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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You're right, it's more like 58%.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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ANd since we are talking about people, 1 extra person per 10 people is not that much greater of a difference
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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2% is 100% more than 1%
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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Forget about the 10. If you have 1 person, an extra person is twice as many people as before.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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NO IT'S 1%
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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Good lord 
(Not Kremr. I know you're joking)
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: elax420]
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 God wherever you live must be so fucking lame.
Remind me to never go to the overly regulated shit hole that is kkkali
Shit I can't wait to get back to the west coast...
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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LiquidGlass said: ANd since we are talking about people, 1 extra person per 10 people is not that much greater of a difference
Forget about the 10. If you have 1 person, an extra person is twice as many people as before. 
Ok except we are talking about hacing 2 people and 1 extra making 3 is not twice as many.
Why forget the ten? These percentages apply to a real world situation. We are talking about percentages of people smoking. So it would be 20 vs 30 out of 100 or 200 vs 300 out of 1000. Not a huge difference.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19399982 - 01/10/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: ANd since we are talking about people, 1 extra person per 10 people is not that much greater of a difference
Forget about the 10. If you have 1 person, an extra person is twice as many people as before. 
Ok except we are talking about hacing 2 people and 1 extra making 3 is not twice as many.
You're right. It's 50% more, just like koods said.
2/1 = 2 = 100% more
3/2 = 1.5 = 50% more
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19399999 - 01/10/14 04:22 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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You almost got it. Let's say the sample size was 100,000. Then 20% is 20,000 and 30% is 30,000. 30,000 is 50% more than 20,000 because 50% of 20,000 is 10,000 and when you add 10,000 to 20,000 you get 30,000.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
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And when applied to the situation is not a huge difference
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19400006 - 01/10/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods] 3
#19400010 - 01/10/14 04:26 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Ok, I'm done. Please, liquid glass, whatever you do, stay out of casinos.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19400019 - 01/10/14 04:27 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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2/10 people vs 3/10
Personally I'm not that impressed with the statistic, its technically significant enough to show a correlation but hardly a massive discrepancy on a smaller scale (i.e for casual observation outside of a hospital / tobacco company drawing board).
That's definitely a 50% increase though, no doubts about that.
And this was linked on the bottom of this page  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4301426/fpart/1
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
#19400024 - 01/10/14 04:29 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: And when applied to the situation is not a huge difference
Applied to any situation it is still 50% more. I'm sensing that you failed out of math pretty early on.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: 2/10 people vs 3/10
Personally I'm not that impressed with the statistic, its technically significant enough to show a correlation but hardly a massive discrepancy on a smaller scale (i.e for casual observation outside of a hospital / tobacco company drawing board).
That's definitely a 50% increase though, no doubts about that.
And this was linked on the bottom of this page  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4301426/fpart/1
Oh, that story is 100% true. But it's only one story, so who cares.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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The guy who ate his shit cares, he certainly cares
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
#19400044 - 01/10/14 04:32 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19400056 - 01/10/14 04:34 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Applied to any situation it is still a 50% difference. I'm sensing that you failed out of math pretty early on.
No not at all. I was usually in the top 10 in my math classes in high school and college. I only did 1.5 years of college though and left for an opportunity to learn glassblowing. That was many many years ago and I still blow glass with no real need for mathematics. Once it was pointed out I could clearly see my error, I feel in some cases it is true that if you dont use it you lose it
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Re: When people smell like feces and can't do math [Re: KremrBigSikter]
#19400063 - 01/10/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Applied to any situation it is still a 50% difference. I'm sensing that you failed out of math pretty early on.
No not at all. I was usually in the top 10 in my math classes in high school and college. I only did 1.5 years of college though and left for an opportunity to learn glassblowing. That was many many years ago and I still blow glass with no real need for mathematics. Once it was pointed out I could clearly see my error, I feel in some cases it is true that if you dont use it you lose it
Top 10? This shit is fucking GOLDEN!
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This is funny, very funny. But we all do it a bit, yeah? Argue a point even after we know it's wrong, after we have been shown it's wrong. Kinda like running, you don't just stop, you slow down to a walk then stop
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Repertoire89]
#19400076 - 01/10/14 04:37 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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I have no respect for someone who practices bad hygiene.
Being poor is not an acceptable excuse. I've been dirt-floor poor for half my life, but by-god I was clean! That's because I had parents who gave half-a-fuck!
It all comes down to laziness.
Same goes for fat people.
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Being poor is not an acceptable excuse. I've been dirt-floor poor for half my life, but by-god I was clean! That's because I had parents who gave half-a-fuck!
It all comes down to laziness.
Same goes for fat people.
Kind of feel the same and shit I don't smell too rank even living on the road. You have to really go out of your way to develop chronic stink ass
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My point was that there is not a huge difference in the amount of rich vs poor smokers, a point which I still stand behind
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
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And our point is, that when you are talking about demographics, 50% higher rate of anything is VERY significant.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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I disagree when applied the situation at hand which, to re-reiterate, is a difference of 2 vs 3 out of ten smokers. Not a significant difference
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods] 2
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Yeah perhaps, even though the statistical side of things has been settled. In my experience, I would say "poor" people tend to smoke more than wealthy people. I think it's a mindset, one that was instilled by a working class upbringing that dates most likely from the industrial age. Rich people used to smoke more than poor but then poor people had more income (because they can operate/fix machines and earn money). Better international trade made things like tobacco cheaper, and now poor people can do something only rich people used to afford: smoke. Continue this mindset down the ages (and it's addictive nature) and suddenly poor people smoke more than rich.
Now given that smoking has not been seen as a sign of wealth for a very long time, in fact its well known for it's harm, rich people have opted for a trendier lifestyle, take drugs for example: Cocaine in the 70s'-80's meant you were rich...
Do you see the pattern I'm going for here. Interestingly all of these lifestyle markers that the wealthy use are generally pillaged from another culture. Tobacco for example... long before rich british people smoked it was widely used in other cultures.
Then again, this could all be a load of crap.
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andrewmurray86 said: Yeah perhaps, even though the statistical side of things has been settled. In my experience, I would say "poor" people tend to smoke more than wealthy people. I think it's a mindset, one that was instilled by a working class upbringing that dates most likely from the industrial age. Rich people used to smoke more than poor but then poor people had more income (because they can operate/fix machines and earn money). Better international trade made things like tobacco cheaper, and now poor people can do something only rich people used to afford: smoke. Continue this mindset down the ages (and it's addictive nature) and suddenly poor people smoke more than rich.
Now given that smoking has not been seen as a sign of wealth for a very long time, in fact its well known for it's harm, rich people have opted for a trendier lifestyle, take drugs for example: Cocaine in the 70s'-80's meant you were rich...
Do you see the pattern I'm going for here. Interestingly all of these lifestyle markers that the wealthy use are generally pillaged from another culture. Tobacco for example... long before rich british people smoked it was widely used in other cultures.
Then again, this could all be a load of crap.
I enjoyed this post.
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What... You too rich to do it yourself?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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No, I am married. Happy wife = Happy life. Me smoking makes her not happy.
I can blow them though, I can also blow air rings under water.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19400318 - 01/10/14 05:25 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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andrewmurray86 said: This is funny, very funny. But we all do it a bit, yeah? Argue a point even after we know it's wrong, after we have been shown it's wrong. Kinda like running, you don't just stop, you slow down to a walk then stop 
My point was that there is not a huge difference in the amount of rich vs poor smokers, a point which I still stand behind
Those stats do not directly tell you what percentage of smokers are "poor" and what percentage are "rich." If 30% of "poor" people are smokers and 20% of "rich" people are smokers, you also need to know what percentage of the overall population is considered "poor" and what percentage are considered "rich." If "poor" people compose a small enough percentage of the population (under 40% in this example,) then "poor" smokers could actually compose a minority of the overall population of smokers even though a "poor" person is 50% more likely to be a smoker than a "rich" person is.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: psi]
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andrewmurray86 said: This is funny, very funny. But we all do it a bit, yeah? Argue a point even after we know it's wrong, after we have been shown it's wrong. Kinda like running, you don't just stop, you slow down to a walk then stop 
My point was that there is not a huge difference in the amount of rich vs poor smokers, a point which I still stand behind
Those stats do not directly tell you what percentage of smokers are "poor" and what percentage are "rich." If 30% of "poor" people are smokers and 20% of "rich" people are smokers, you also need to know what percentage of the overall population is considered "poor" and what percentage are considered "rich." If "poor" people compose a small enough percentage of the population (under 40% in this example,) then "poor" smokers could actually compose a minority of the overall population of smokers even though a "poor" person is 50% more likely to be a smoker than a "rich" person is.
This
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: psi]
#19400477 - 01/10/14 06:03 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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andrewmurray86 said: This is funny, very funny. But we all do it a bit, yeah? Argue a point even after we know it's wrong, after we have been shown it's wrong. Kinda like running, you don't just stop, you slow down to a walk then stop 
My point was that there is not a huge difference in the amount of rich vs poor smokers, a point which I still stand behind
Those stats do not directly tell you what percentage of smokers are "poor" and what percentage are "rich." If 30% of "poor" people are smokers and 20% of "rich" people are smokers, you also need to know what percentage of the overall population is considered "poor" and what percentage are considered "rich." If "poor" people compose a small enough percentage of the population (under 40% in this example,) then "poor" smokers could actually compose a minority of the overall population of smokers even though a "poor" person is 50% more likely to be a smoker than a "rich" person is.
That's a good point, especially considering there are way more poor people than rich.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Repertoire89]
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Good lord, we are talking about the rate of smoking, not the number of smokers.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
#19400493 - 01/10/14 06:08 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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I thought we were talking about smelly people?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Repertoire89]
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Good point. Any stats on who smells more, rich or poor people?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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There's a 50% chance it's the poor people, but then again there's a 50% chance it's the rich people 
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: rulesq]
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rulesq said: There's a 50% chance it's the poor people, but then again there's a 50% chance it's the rich people 

Source?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: rulesq]
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Isn't it weird we shake hands with the same hand we whipe our ass with? Someone needs to invent a hands free whiping system that doesn't involve water being sprayed up the asshole. Unless your into that sorta thing..
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Magicman69]
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You wipe your ass?
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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It's just a hunch, but I'm pretty sure aboot it
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Magicman69]
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Magicman69 said: Isn't it weird we shake hands with the same hand we whipe our ass with? Someone needs to invent a hands free whiping system that doesn't involve water being sprayed up the asshole. Unless your into that sorta thing..
Keep an extra towel up by the door of your bathroom, have it strung tight between two pegs and just rub up against it. Change when you go to wash your towels 
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
#19400559 - 01/10/14 06:25 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Only if its a wet one. I am prescribed opiates so more often than not I shit dry rocks. NWN. No whipe necessary, the best kind
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: Magicman69]
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What? Wipe with left, shake with right, that's the rule
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We should just do away with shaking hands. Its just a breeding ground for spreading germs. Hugs are much more sanitary, or even if the fist bump gained some well deserved noteriety, that would suffice.
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Re: When people smell like feces [Re: koods]
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koods said: Good lord, we are talking about the rate of smoking, not the number of smokers.
Early on in the thread, Patlal had claimed that the majority of smokers were poor. Then people produced stats showing that the rate of smoking is higher among poorer people, which of course is not quite the same thing.
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Cigarettes are mainly in the poor class.
I do not smoke cigarettes, but that statement is obviously complete bullshit. I hope you were joking because if not then your intelligence is severely lacking
What I wrote has been statistically proven.
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