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How the fuck does someone become obese?
    #19393475 - 01/09/14 12:19 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

It may sound like a stupid question, but it really is not. You literally have to try to become as fat as a lot of people have become.
You literally have to be constantly eating shit food everyday to become that fat.

I don't get it. How do they live with themselves?

the fattest I think you can get without trying:


Literally have to go out of your way to get this fat:


Opinions?


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123] * 2
    #19393487 - 01/09/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

A lot of them grew up with that lifestyle as kids. Some are just lazy or don't care.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123] * 1
    #19393491 - 01/09/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I ask myself this sometimes.

Like those guys with beach ball stomaches, its like how the fuck did you let that happen


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Herbologist]
    #19393496 - 01/09/14 12:23 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I find it impossible to put on weight so if you find the answer let me know lol


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19393501 - 01/09/14 12:25 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Ignoring the gradual changes in the appearance, and adjusting to it, only to find themselves a few years down the line huge, addicted to junk food, with screwd up metabolism and unable to do anything about it.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19393505 - 01/09/14 12:25 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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unknown1123 said:
It may sound like a stupid question, but it really is not. You literally have to try to become as fat as a lot of people have become.
You literally have to be constantly eating shit food everyday to become that fat.

I don't get it. How do they live with themselves?

the fattest I think you can get without trying:


Literally have to go out of your way to get this fat:


Opinions?



Those are both considered obese.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: ONSLAUGHTA]
    #19393510 - 01/09/14 12:26 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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ONSLAUGHTA said:
I find it impossible to put on weight so if you find the answer let me know lol



If you want to put on weight, only thing you need to do is eat a lot of carbohydrates, and spike your insulin production with every meal. Ofcourse don't do that, you'll only get fat, inducing muscle production is a bit more difficult.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #19393515 - 01/09/14 12:27 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

How does that lady take a shit? I imagine she has to shit more often, as well. Seriously.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Herbologist]
    #19393522 - 01/09/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Genetics have to come into play for some man, I mean think of it this way. I can eat like 3000 calories in a day, sit around and do shit all and not gain a pound. Other people eat like 1500 calories and gain a second ass.


For me gaining weight is really hard, even with eating properly and working out it literally took almost a year to actually see any results, I'm still like 140 lbs and you hear of some people gaining this much and that much in a simular situation. Your genetics has to have some influence on weight gain/loss. I'm sure their are lots of people who eat like shit and don't exercise though.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: koods] * 9
    #19393528 - 01/09/14 12:30 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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koods said:
How does that lady take a shit? I imagine she has to shit more often, as well. Seriously.




Actually it appears as if she's gone her entire life having food enter her body and never leaving.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19393534 - 01/09/14 12:31 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Poor eating habits that started in childhood, a lot of parents feed their children not the best foods.

We also know that genetics plays a role in people becoming obese, many were always overweight from an early age.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: qman]
    #19393541 - 01/09/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I think genetics is the latest scapegoat for fat people to use and I have studied genetics more extensively than 80% of people I know :shrug:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: qman]
    #19393545 - 01/09/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)



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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: The5thElement]
    #19393549 - 01/09/14 12:34 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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The5thElement said:
Genetics have to come into play for some man, I mean think of it this way. I can eat like 3000 calories in a day, sit around and do shit all and not gain a pound. Other people eat like 1500 calories and gain a second ass.


For me gaining weight is really hard, even with eating properly and working out it literally took almost a year to actually see any results, I'm still like 140 lbs and you hear of some people gaining this much and that much in a simular situation. Your genetics has to have some influence on weight gain/loss. I'm sure their are lots of people who eat like shit and don't exercise though.




I am the same exact way.. I eat tons of carbs, fruits, vegs, protein and exercise 3-4 days a week.  I still cant gain much, Im at 143lbs and its HARD and I mean HARDDDDD to gain another pound at this point.  It took me 3-4 weeks to go from 135 to 143.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: The5thElement]
    #19393557 - 01/09/14 12:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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The5thElement said:
Genetics have to come into play for some man, I mean think of it this way. I can eat like 3000 calories in a day, sit around and do shit all and not gain a pound. Other people eat like 1500 calories and gain a second ass.


For me gaining weight is really hard, even with eating properly and working out it literally took almost a year to actually see any results, I'm still like 140 lbs and you hear of some people gaining this much and that much in a simular situation. Your genetics has to have some influence on weight gain/loss. I'm sure their are lots of people who eat like shit and don't exercise though.



The bacteria in your gut also matter and eating the shit of someone who is naturally a lower weight can lower yours as well. On an unrelated note, would you send me a small piece of your dung, dried and in a gelatin capsule?


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Herbologist]
    #19393561 - 01/09/14 12:37 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

The body has an evolutionary tendencey to be hungry and seek food.

As you age, your metabolism slows.  At that point, you're face with the choice of feeling exceptionally hungry and light-headed due to low blood sugar levels, or eating.  It's an easy choice to eat.

If you've ever fasted or calorie restricted yourself, its miserable.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123] * 1
    #19393562 - 01/09/14 12:37 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I don't get it. How do they live with themselves?



Human denial is limitless.
I've been fat my whole life, not ashamed to admit that, but I completely ignored it. I was active, hiked often, went to the gym regularly, biked 20 miles daily etc. I convinced myself I was just muscular, and that I'm trying to loose excess fat. Looking back at my eating habits, I definitely wasn't.
But it's so hard to break the cycle. Until I found the diet that worked for me, then all the effort of so many years came together, and I lost almost everything in 3 months.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19393564 - 01/09/14 12:38 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

It ain't as easy as it seems for lots of people.

Food's mad addicting.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: badchad]
    #19393571 - 01/09/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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badchad said:
The body has an evolutionary tendencey to be hungry and seek food.

As you age, your metabolism slows.  At that point, you're face with the choice of feeling exceptionally hungry and light-headed due to low blood sugar levels, or eating.  It's an easy choice to eat.

If you've ever fasted or calorie restricted yourself, its miserable.




I have to eat at least every 2 hours or I start to get a head ache, i feel shakey, weak feeling, and almost ready to pass out. It doesn't matter how big my last meal was.

That is kinda miserable


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19393576 - 01/09/14 12:41 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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NotTheDevil said:
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The5thElement said:
Genetics have to come into play for some man, I mean think of it this way. I can eat like 3000 calories in a day, sit around and do shit all and not gain a pound. Other people eat like 1500 calories and gain a second ass.


For me gaining weight is really hard, even with eating properly and working out it literally took almost a year to actually see any results, I'm still like 140 lbs and you hear of some people gaining this much and that much in a simular situation. Your genetics has to have some influence on weight gain/loss. I'm sure their are lots of people who eat like shit and don't exercise though.



The bacteria in your gut also matter and eating the shit of someone who is naturally a lower weight can lower yours as well. On an unrelated note, would you send me a small piece of your dung, dried and in a gelatin capsule?




I will send you my poo, pm your address to me and let's get this poo train rolling.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Herbologist]
    #19393581 - 01/09/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Herbologist said:



I have to eat at least every 2 hours or I start to get a head ache, i feel shakey, weak feeling, and almost ready to pass out. It doesn't matter how big my last meal was.

That is kinda miserable





I get headaches  if I don't eat every couple of hours as well.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: The5thElement]
    #19393584 - 01/09/14 12:43 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

its like I have a super metabolism.

its a gift and a curse, mostly a curse seeing as how Id like to gain weight


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19393585 - 01/09/14 12:43 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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unknown1123 said:
I think genetics is the latest scapegoat for fat people to use and I have studied genetics more extensively than 80% of people I know :shrug:




That and thyroid problems


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: The5thElement]
    #19393600 - 01/09/14 12:47 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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The5thElement said:
Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
Quote:

The5thElement said:
Genetics have to come into play for some man, I mean think of it this way. I can eat like 3000 calories in a day, sit around and do shit all and not gain a pound. Other people eat like 1500 calories and gain a second ass.


For me gaining weight is really hard, even with eating properly and working out it literally took almost a year to actually see any results, I'm still like 140 lbs and you hear of some people gaining this much and that much in a simular situation. Your genetics has to have some influence on weight gain/loss. I'm sure their are lots of people who eat like shit and don't exercise though.



The bacteria in your gut also matter and eating the shit of someone who is naturally a lower weight can lower yours as well. On an unrelated note, would you send me a small piece of your dung, dried and in a gelatin capsule?




I will send you my poo, pm your address to me and let's get this poo train rolling.



Maybe next year when I've moved out, wouldn't want my parents seeing that package lol.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Tangich] * 2
    #19393634 - 01/09/14 12:55 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Tangich said:
Ignoring the gradual changes in the appearance, and adjusting to it, only to find themselves a few years down the line huge, addicted to junk food, with screwd up metabolism and unable to do anything about it.



junk food everyday

soul loss
just like smoking cigs everyday

stress causes soul loss

btw I used to eat pizza everyday for 10 years - often pizza delivery 2-3 times a day, and 3L of coke for that time too
so i know ;-)
lost 1/3 of my weight now

hadnt seen my body in about 10-15 years before I did psychedelics
kinda weird......


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: NotTheDevil] * 2
    #19393638 - 01/09/14 12:56 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

So your telling me I shit in this tiny gel capsule for nothing?    :noyoudidawet:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: The5thElement]
    #19393644 - 01/09/14 12:58 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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So your telling me I shit in this tiny gel capsule for nothing?    :noyoudidawet:



just save it for later :wink:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: NotTheDevil] * 2
    #19393648 - 01/09/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I save poo for no man :ancientaliens:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: The5thElement] * 1
    #19393662 - 01/09/14 01:05 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19393711 - 01/09/14 01:26 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Damn, this thread makes me feel huge!  Seriously though I just started running again.  Hopefully I can break my bad habits and stop being so damn fat and lazy...


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19393721 - 01/09/14 01:29 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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unknown1123 said:
It may sound like a stupid question, but it really is not. You literally have to try to become as fat as a lot of people have become.
You literally have to be constantly eating shit food everyday to become that fat.

Opinions?




The problem isn't the shit food, it's the shit food and no exercise. Several people have done the "super size me" thing while maintaining a good exercise regimen and lose weight or gain muscle. The guy who made that doc did not work out at all, but yet fast food gets the blame. I am sick of people blaming junk food instead of a lack of exercise. Evolution designed you to be chasing game with a spear, or running from tigers and shit not watching TV. I hate dieting myself I would rather exercise.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19393745 - 01/09/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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my3rdeye said:
Quote:

unknown1123 said:
It may sound like a stupid question, but it really is not. You literally have to try to become as fat as a lot of people have become.
You literally have to be constantly eating shit food everyday to become that fat.

Opinions?




The problem isn't the shit food, it's the shit food and no exercise. Several people have done the "super size me" thing while maintaining a good exercise regimen and lose weight or gain muscle. The guy who made that doc did not work out at all, but yet fast food gets the blame. I am sick of people blaming junk food instead of a lack of exercise. Evolution designed you to be chasing game with a spear, or running from tigers and shit not watching TV. I hate dieting myself I would rather exercise.




No. Evolution designed us based on a diet of food that wasn't energy rich. things that take a while to digest. not starches and sugars that are available almost immediately.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19393750 - 01/09/14 01:38 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I am sick of people blaming junk food instead of a lack of exercise.



As I said, I was exercising regularly, bicycling, mountain hiking, weight lifting and walking everywhere, but I was still huge. I had a lot of muscle, but even more fat. And I wasn't eating a lot of junk food either. Just food that was not right for my body. Once I realized what that is, and found the right book to guide me, I started burning fat like a furnace!


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Tangich]
    #19393761 - 01/09/14 01:41 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

That second lady!

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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Herbologist]
    #19393764 - 01/09/14 01:42 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I am the same exact way.. I eat tons of carbs, fruits, vegs, protein and exercise 3-4 days a week.  I still cant gain much, Im at 143lbs and its HARD and I mean HARDDDDD to gain another pound at this point.  It took me 3-4 weeks to go from 135 to 143.



:lolwut:

You're complaining about 8 pounds in 3-4 weeks?  The average human body can put on between 1-2 pounds of muscle per month.  If you gained 8 pounds in a month I guarantee there was a good chunk of fat in there.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Tangich]
    #19393773 - 01/09/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I don't understand why obese people just don't go on the Jenny Crank diet.  Seems so simple and requires little or no effort.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: sprinkles]
    #19393797 - 01/09/14 01:50 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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That second lady!

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Yeah. She's great to look at, but you gotta realize that in all of those folds of skin are festering yeast infections and cheesy pus.

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I don't understand why obese people just don't go on the Jenny Crank diet.  Seems so simple and requires little or no effort.




Their hearts can't handle stimulants.

Of course, once you get to a certain size, you can't even exercise anymore. My Ex's aunt was fucking huge and she kept breaking her legs just because the bones could not support her weight and they would snap.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: koods]
    #19393810 - 01/09/14 01:53 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Obese people never learned how to eat. They don't understand what makes them fat and what doesn't. Lots of people will go for carbs rich diets simply because its more satisfying than a veggie diet.

If you base your diet on what tastes good, you are bound to get really fat, really fast. Anything sold in the middle aisles of the grocery store is toxic and that's probably where they buy most of their food.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Patlal]
    #19393993 - 01/09/14 02:40 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Obese people never learned how to eat. They don't understand what makes them fat and what doesn't. Lots of people will go for carbs rich diets simply because its more satisfying than a veggie diet.

If you base your diet on what tastes good, you are bound to get really fat, really fast. Anything sold in the middle aisles of the grocery store is toxic and that's probably where they buy most of their food.



I base my diet on what tastes good: mostly fruit and veggies :shrug:

A lot of people do just heat up microwave dinners for multiple meals a day, though.  That's disgusting and will certainly make you fat.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19394027 - 01/09/14 02:47 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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It may sound like a stupid question, but it really is not. You literally have to try to become as fat as a lot of people have become.
You literally have to be constantly eating shit food everyday to become that fat.

Opinions?




The problem isn't the shit food, it's the shit food and no exercise. Several people have done the "super size me" thing while maintaining a good exercise regimen and lose weight or gain muscle. The guy who made that doc did not work out at all, but yet fast food gets the blame. I am sick of people blaming junk food instead of a lack of exercise. Evolution designed you to be chasing game with a spear, or running from tigers and shit not watching TV. I hate dieting myself I would rather exercise.



Worse yet no one can replicate his results at all, no depression, no liver problems, drastically less weight gain, etc. Either the guy has shit genetics or he lied about what he was actually doing in order to make a popular documentary.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: pwnasaurus]
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Obese people never learned how to eat. They don't understand what makes them fat and what doesn't. Lots of people will go for carbs rich diets simply because its more satisfying than a veggie diet.

If you base your diet on what tastes good, you are bound to get really fat, really fast. Anything sold in the middle aisles of the grocery store is toxic and that's probably where they buy most of their food.



I base my diet on what tastes good: mostly fruit and veggies :shrug:

A lot of people do just heat up microwave dinners for multiple meals a day, though.  That's disgusting and will certainly make you fat.




Yeah but you got used to eating fruits and veggies and therefore they taste good to you. I bet you can't even stand the taste of KD and other shit food.

People that didn't learn how to eat properly learn to love these salty foods. When it doesn't taste salty, they don't like it.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Patlal]
    #19394049 - 01/09/14 02:53 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Fruits are the worst thing a fat person can eat if they want to loose weight. :shrug:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Patlal]
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Obese people never learned how to eat. They don't understand what makes them fat and what doesn't. Lots of people will go for carbs rich diets simply because its more satisfying than a veggie diet.

If you base your diet on what tastes good, you are bound to get really fat, really fast. Anything sold in the middle aisles of the grocery store is toxic and that's probably where they buy most of their food.



I base my diet on what tastes good: mostly fruit and veggies :shrug:

A lot of people do just heat up microwave dinners for multiple meals a day, though.  That's disgusting and will certainly make you fat.




Yeah but you got used to eating fruits and veggies and therefore they taste good to you. I bet you can't even stand the taste of KD and other shit food.

People that didn't learn how to eat properly learn to love these salty foods. When it doesn't taste salty, they don't like it.



Yeah, I don't really like salt.  I never use it in my cooking and always try to find the lowest sodium version of any canned goods I use (such as unsalted diced tomatoes).  The amount of salt on all processed foods disgusts me.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Patlal]
    #19394065 - 01/09/14 02:55 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

See this is why I started at the gym this week. I have never ever worried or had to worry about my food intake. As I approach thirty I imagine my metabolic rate will slow (then again people said that about age 20 and 25 but nothing changed). either way I am making a conscious choice to eat better and exercise.

Seriously my resting heart rate is like 70-80bpm.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Patlal]
    #19394078 - 01/09/14 02:59 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

They are using food to make them feel better when they should be doing drugs like normal people .... at least when they can't solve their problems because that's obviously better .

i know cuz I'm overweight

i often eat just for fun sometimes and say its okay i'll make up for it when i do speed later or start counting calories again ..


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    #19394091 - 01/09/14 03:02 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Seriously my resting heart rate is like 70-80bpm.



OK?  That's pretty normal.  Mine is around 60.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19394127 - 01/09/14 03:10 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

That's when I'm asleep. Not just chilling, although to be honest it doesn't change all that much when I am awake and resting.


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I'm still not following why you posted that your heart rate is extremely normal.


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    #19394153 - 01/09/14 03:16 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Mines around 80. And when I workout I have to set a target around 160 or it feels like I'm not really working very hard, even though it says I shouldn't be getting that high for my age. I'll probably drop dead on the treadmill in the near future.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: koods]
    #19394167 - 01/09/14 03:18 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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How does that lady take a shit? I imagine she has to shit more often, as well. Seriously.



Maybe a colostomy (trash)bag?


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    #19394199 - 01/09/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I'm still not following why you posted that your heart rate is extremely normal.




Well, to be honest, I think it's high than most people would sit at. Perhaps I'm misled? Do you know otherwise? Med training?

I was always under the impression most people rest around 60bpm once they get into adulthood. Mine is sitting 30% higher than that.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19394234 - 01/09/14 03:30 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

http://www.topendsports.com/testing/heart-rate-resting-chart.htm

Assuming you're 18-25 you're below average but not terribly so. Though 70 to 80 is a pretty broad range...


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    #19394240 - 01/09/14 03:32 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I'm 27, no medical conditions, BP is good. I'm gunna have a  guess that it's some where like 125/70 or something like that. Every time I get it checked the person always comments that it's good.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19394254 - 01/09/14 03:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah. You may just be stressed or insufficiently rested when you're getting those higher 'resting' heart rates.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Tangich]
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Fruits are the worst thing a fat person can eat if they want to loose weight. :shrug:



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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: koods]
    #19394267 - 01/09/14 03:38 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Of course, once you get to a certain size, you can't even exercise anymore. My Ex's aunt was fucking huge and she kept breaking her legs just because the bones could not support her weight and they would snap.



Which takes us back to the OP, how the fuck do you get to that point? Do you just decide one day "Fuck it, if cookies weren't meant to be dipped in lard, it wouldn't taste so good and I can save so much on my soda bill if I buy it by the 50gallon drum, and ya know what? I think i'm going to try to not stand up once this year, we all need goals." I just.. how???


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19394343 - 01/09/14 03:52 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

They eat their feelings. The more isolated they become as a result of their obesity the more they eat. I was 170 in 9th grade. I dropped down to 140. I started gaining it back by eating carbs to cope with stress. Next thing I know I'm almost 300 pounds like "Holy fuck!"

If I hadn't dug myself out of that hole and started losing weight, I'm sure I'd be in the high 300's if not in the 400's by now. I'm 185 now by the way.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Darwin23]
    #19394360 - 01/09/14 03:56 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

little physical activity
eating an insane amount of calories.


i have been bigger since i was a little girl, i was raised by my memaw and she was the type of lady that you didn't leave the table until you finished EVERYTHING on your plate. so I think my habit with food got started way before I had any control of it.

I have lost significant amounts of weight in my life now TWICE.
The first time I was really young, so I don't remember how much I lost. As soon as I started puberty I got big again. 16-17 I lost 85 pounds. I've gained about 30 of that back.


It's a never ending struggle for me. I can't eat how others do without becoming huge. Exercise plays a big role for me too. I have to exercise since I only more or less maintain my weight with a healthy diet.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19394671 - 01/09/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Increasingly lazy lifestyles with an emphasis on instant-gratification.
See all of the quality of life changes made in the name of convenience, fast food, etc.

We live in a society where a significant portion of people are content to never leave the house and eat 4,000 calories of pure fat per day.
The news isn't all bad, though. Three words: Coronary Heart Disease. Unfortunately, it's pretty slow.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19394791 - 01/09/14 05:30 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

For the past 6-7 years of my life I've been eating once per day and usually no more than 1200 calories at the most ( usually 800 per day ) . Since I started this eating habit I have found my energy level through the fucking roof and it last all day long. Some of you guys are going to think I'm crazy but for around 5 days each month I just won't eat anything at all, just a bunch of water any maybe some apple juice or something else like it. I honestly don't get hungry until around the 3rd day, don't feel lightheaded or any headaches at all.

    Maybe once or twice a month I'll eat like a pig, I'll consume around I would say 4k calories in a single day and let me tell you, the days I do this I feel like complete death all goddamn day long. No energy and just depressed, I dread the days I do this. I think the book that got me started on this type of lifestyle was called the warrior diet, I don't follow what the book says all the way but I incorporate other aspects of different eating habits too. Many studies have shown that caloric restriction on a persons lifestyle will extend the persons life, much less likely to develop cancer and also it tends to keep the person looking younger than they are, think of asians. Wow, this turned out way longer than I had planed lol:feelsgoodman:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: ONSLAUGHTA]
    #19394792 - 01/09/14 05:30 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I find it impossible to put on weight so if you find the answer let me know lol




Same here, lord knows I've tried. Bodybuilding diets, only junk food, no more exercise. Nothing made me gain.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Noble]
    #19394806 - 01/09/14 05:33 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:shrug:
Seems fairly normal. I usually don't eat much on days where I'm in the office. I don't have the time for that shit.
My calorie intake during the week is pretty low, since i usually only eat dinner. Weekends I spike up, and some days I just don't feel like eating.

People have the notion of eating at least three big meals drilled too firmly into their heads, along with the very unhealthy idea that the slightest pangs of hunger should be treated with a Big Mac. It's not unhealthy at all to be feel hungry once and awhile and not over-indulge it.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19394824 - 01/09/14 05:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

i gonna make a wild guess here:  chinese food.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: stimpson]
    #19394832 - 01/09/14 05:38 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

What about it?


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    #19394842 - 01/09/14 05:39 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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the fattest I think you can get without trying:





Just FYI, the above man is technically obese. Obesity is when you're above 20% body fat for male, and 30% body fat for females. So depending on your height, you only have to be 10-40lbs overweight to be considered obese.

As for how obesity happens, I don't know, ask lunarpiscean. I personally don't understand how people get like that either.


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    #19394853 - 01/09/14 05:41 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

ingest 2 to 3 chinese dinners, wait for internal nuclear meltdown, rinse and repeat.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
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As for how obesity happens, I don't know, ask lunarpiscean.




:rofl:

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ingest 2 to 3 chinese dinners, wait for internal nuclear meltdown, rinse and repeat.




Uh, no.
I like to cook actual food. Not that I'll say no to Chinese once and awhile.

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also i've heard that coke has a similar effect on people, but i dun know anything about coke first hand.




:shrug:
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also i've heard that coke has a similar effect on people, but i dun know anything about coke first hand.


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Chinese take away is the devil man. Check this if you want to know why:



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From 23:33 on it shows you what's in a years worth of daily Chinese take away. It's filthy.


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    #19394883 - 01/09/14 05:46 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

People stuff their emotions with food. Just like people who stuff their feelings with drugs or alcohol.


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As for how obesity happens, I don't know, ask lunarpiscean.




:rofl:

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ingest 2 to 3 chinese dinners, wait for internal nuclear meltdown, rinse and repeat.




Uh, no.
I like to cook actual food. Not that I'll say no to Chinese once and awhile.

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also i've heard that coke has a similar effect on people, but i dun know anything about coke first hand.




:shrug:
Cocaine has always made me feel like shit during and immediately after the high.




oh dude my bad i'm not talking about u, just the topic.

yea i dun know anything about coke really...  i just know ppl that come around lookn all white lipped n like an elephant n i'm like, damn man.  i mean maybe they were big to begin with though...  but i knew this one kid who would only drink gatorade when he was on a coke binge cuz he was afraid of gettn fat, so...  really, i have no idea tho...


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As for how obesity happens, I don't know, ask lunarpiscean.




:rofl:

Thank you for the unsubtle pot-shot.
Sometimes I start to think that I don't like you much, then you just blow me away in the best ways possible.




It's ever-so-fun and hilarious ripping on people who think too highly of themselves.  :lol:


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    #19394919 - 01/09/14 05:51 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Cocaine does weird shit to people when used in excess. People get paranoid about weird shit.
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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19394952 - 01/09/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Soda, fast food, TV/internet, Alcohol.  If you combine all of these with a slower than average metabolism, than fat city here you come.:shrug:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19394957 - 01/09/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19394985 - 01/09/14 05:58 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

That slow metabolism crock of shit is just another result of laziness and sedentary living.
Get off of your ass once and awhile and I guarantee you that you'll notice a nice jump start.


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    #19395018 - 01/09/14 06:03 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Pure neglect OP.
Pure fucking neglect.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19395023 - 01/09/14 06:04 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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That slow metabolism crock of shit is just another result of laziness and sedentary living.
Get off of your ass once and awhile and I guarantee you that you'll notice a nice jump start.




I agree. I've had so many obese people claim that they eat less than 1500 calories a day and do lots of running and shit.

Okay that might be true for a VERY SMALL MINORITY of obese people who have some type of glandular disorder or something, but definitely not for the majority.

And one thing I really hate is this whole "Fat is beautiful" mentality that is being perpetuated in the media. An obese body is the type of body that came out from an overly materialist and consumerist culture, why on earth would you embrace that and call it beautiful?


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    #19395025 - 01/09/14 06:05 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I don't understand it either.  I live a pretty lethargic lifestyle and the majority of my meals are take out and unhealthy.  I usually only eat one and sometimes two full meals a day though.  My hypothesis is that most people do not correctly gauge how much they eat.  People that say they can never gain weight probably eat in a similar manner to me, while people that complain about not being able to lose weight probably assume its normal to have a big ass breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, and sodas all in between.  It's not necessary to intake that many calories. 

On the subject of soda, a few years ago, I was about 150 pounds and 5'10 and in relatively slender form.  I quit drinking 4-8 sodas a day and replaced it with delicious H2O and lost 10-15 pounds in 2 months.  I have since gained most of that weight back, but it goes to show how one conscious decision with ones diet can have a large effect.

Finally, I remember Wiccan posted once about the notion that if one over eats the equivalent of a twinkie everyday, it will eventually add up over a certain amount of time and you will find yourself a fat lard.  But using this concept the opposite way, if one eats 200 or so calories less than a person needs everyday, they should be able to steadily lose weight.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #19395035 - 01/09/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Eugh. "Fat is beautiful" is a gross incidence of cognitive dissonance where we lie to ourselves about our shortcomings.
Fat is disgusting, fat is unhealthy, fat represents a lazy society of slackass idiots, and fat needs to be treated like such.

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soda




Soda is the worst thing you can put in your body short of chowing down a double Big Mac. And it's the sort of thing people will, far too casually, overindulge.
I'll have one every now and then, but I see people sucking down a litre or more per day.

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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19395053 - 01/09/14 06:09 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I never ever drink soda, unless I'm at Tender Greens or BJ's, because they have hand-crafted sodas and lemonade there.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395068 - 01/09/14 06:11 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I wish there was a Tender Greens in Portland :frown:


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19395085 - 01/09/14 06:14 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Tender Greens?
Is that like a Costco?


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    #19395087 - 01/09/14 06:14 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I wish there was a Tender Greens in Portland :frown:




I LOVE that place! How do you know about it? Their steak and kale salad is seriously fantastic. Their steak is always cooked perfectly medium-rare.

You definitely would appreciate that place, because you are a skilled chef. Portland has really good seafood though, don't they? And great beer.

And man you think a litre a day of soda is bad, I actually knew a woman who drank A FUCKING CASE of soda each day. That's like 1400 calories just in soda, WTF!!!!

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    #19395103 - 01/09/14 06:17 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Tender Greens?
Is that like a Costco?




No, Tender Greens is an organic, vegan-inspired (but not vegan) type restaurant. They basically have fresh salads and sandwiches, except their vegetables and quinoa are SUPER fresh, their meats, chicken, and fish are always cooked to perfection. And all of their sodas are hand-crafted. So I always get their root beer or cherry coke when I dine there.

What a typical Tender Greens meal looks like:




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    #19395104 - 01/09/14 06:17 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

It's a chain of restaurants in California with an emphasis on freshly prepared, good foods.
I've been to the ones in Pasadena and Hollywood a handful of times. Pretty good food, nice establishment.


I like Costco too, though.


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    #19395114 - 01/09/14 06:19 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

That food looks gourmet as fuck


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395119 - 01/09/14 06:20 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I LOVE that place! How do you know about it?



Visited a couple of the LA-area ones. I walked away pretty impressed, normally California restaurants are too damn big on the hippy vegan crap for me. I need protein and I need it cooked well.

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Portland has really good seafood though, don't they? And great beer.



Good seafood, tons of Thai and Vietnamese of varying degrees of authenticity, a lot of alternative/vegan/hippy places.
Yes, we pretty much dominate the beer market. Though I mean that as Oregon as a whole. Deschutes, coming out of mid-Oregon, produces some of my favorite beers. Ever.

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And man you think a litre a day of soda is bad, I actually knew a woman who drank A FUCKING CASE of soda each day. That's like 1400 calories just in soda, WTF!!!!




Jesus Christ on a cracker.



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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19395136 - 01/09/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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That slow metabolism crock of shit is just another result of laziness and sedentary living.
Get off of your ass once and awhile and I guarantee you that you'll notice a nice jump start.



Do you have a source for that?  I am genuinely interested in learning more about it.  Many people offer metabolism as an excuse, and I never thought to question it.  :shrug:


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    #19395138 - 01/09/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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That food looks gourmet as fuck




It's very good for the price. I think any one of those plates cost between $9-$11. You also don't have to pay for a tip, since you pay at the cashier.

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It's a chain of restaurants in California with an emphasis on freshly prepared, good foods.
I've been to the ones in Pasadena and Hollywood a handful of times. Pretty good food, nice establishment.


I like Costco too, though.




I've noticed that each branch is slightly different from the others. I've only eaten at the San Diego and Irvine location, and I thought the Irvine location didn't taste nearly as good. Meat wasn't cooked properly, vegetables weren't as shiny and radiant, and sauce tasted kind of sour. The San Diego location was 10000x better and prepared all the food properly.


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    #19395168 - 01/09/14 06:27 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I find it impossible to put on weight so if you find the answer let me know lol



Anabolic/Androgenic steroids and HGH. That should about do it. Oh but lifting weights helps. That'll be 75.00 as a consulting fee If you think about it I'm way cheaper than a personal trainer. I'll Email you where to send the cash or money order I don't do checks. :laugh2:


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    #19395171 - 01/09/14 06:28 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

There are plenty of well-documented things you can do to increase your metabolism.
No snake oil (though, fish oil helps) or pseudoscience involved.

DHA and EPA, found in fish oils, have a drastic effect on the metabolism. Maintaining an exercise routine will increase your metabolism.
Basically you want to train your body to stay active and to effectively utilize the fuel you give it. You also want to put good fuel into your body.


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    #19395172 - 01/09/14 06:28 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

OMFG
That place would be my second home if we had one in NY.


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    #19395178 - 01/09/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Hey, New York's got a lot of great dining too.
Assuming you mean City and not some dumpy little shithole like Syracuse.


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    #19395188 - 01/09/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Hey, New York's got a lot of great dining too.
Assuming you mean City and not some dumpy little shithole like Syracuse.




Yea I agree, New York City has the most Michelin star restaurants.

Apparently Tokyo has the most three-star Michelin star restaurants though (the highest rating possibly given in a Michelin rating).


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    #19395190 - 01/09/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Thank you :thumbup:


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    #19395192 - 01/09/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Well im from Long Island.
More notably Queens which has its fair of good dining.
I'm 20 mins from Manhattan so if I want Great eating I go into the city,
but the NYC prices are ridiculous.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: unknown1123]
    #19395195 - 01/09/14 06:32 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

You cna get so fat that it's impossible to slim down, right?


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395199 - 01/09/14 06:32 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Favorite one I've been to so far was El Celler de Can Roca in Girona.
I'd love to take a trip to Tokyo and just spend like, a week, eating.


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There are plenty of well-documented things you can do to increase your metabolism.
No snake oil (though, fish oil helps) or pseudoscience involved.

DHA and EPA, found in fish oils, have a drastic effect on the metabolism. Maintaining an exercise routine will increase your metabolism.
Basically you want to train your body to stay active and to effectively utilize the fuel you give it. You also want to put good fuel into your body.


sVs  you left this out Ephedrine caffeine and aspirin. But the fuckin methheads got the ephedrine thing fucked up!:brushrage: Oh and there is cordyceps Gotta bring the fungus into the Shroomery.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #19395245 - 01/09/14 06:40 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I'm not particularly fond of caffeine, and if we're going to talk stimulants I'd like to introduce you to amphetamines.
Plus, I'd rather advocate taking a more natural approach to maintaining a healthy metabolism. I've seen plenty of people take the amphetamine diet and end up rebounding. Hard.

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    #19395274 - 01/09/14 06:44 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Favorite one I've been to so far was El Celler de Can Roca in Girona.
I'd love to take a trip to Tokyo and just spend like, a week, eating.




Different regions of Japan have the best food.

So like Kyoto is best known for their Japanese food. Washoku, udon, things like that, you go to Kyoto. For sushi and seafood, Hokkaido is the best place. Okinawa is the most famous for their black-belly pork.

Believe it or not, one thing that the Japanese do better is French. They say French are the masters of creme sauces, well the Japanese actually found a way to make it even tastier. It's expensive though, and the portions are so tiny, you will pay close to $300 and you will still be hungry after you leave.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395284 - 01/09/14 06:46 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I forgot to add, Kyoto has the best mochi. You will find it sold outside of temples, and it will literally be hand-made (which takes days of pounding the rice with mallots to make). The best ones have little bits of broken up rice grains inside the mochi.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395292 - 01/09/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I'm all about the seafood. I also do enjoy French cuisine, and that is rather interesting that the Japanese have raised the bar for it.
They've also recently taken to distilling Scotch-style single-malt whiskies, though they can't call it Scotch for obvious and legal reasons. Those, too, are of exceptional quality (though I'll still swear by my Islay malts before I pick up a bottle of Japanese whisky :lol:).


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    #19395320 - 01/09/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I'm all about the seafood. I also do enjoy French cuisine, and that is rather interesting that the Japanese have raised the bar for it.
They've also recently taken to distilling Scotch-style single-malt whiskies, though they can't call it Scotch for obvious and legal reasons. Those, too, are of exceptional quality (though I'll still swear by my Islay malts before I pick up a bottle of Japanese whisky :lol:).




IMO booze is not good at all in Japan, with the exception of sake and shochu. Beer is downright terrible (like Asahi/Kirin/Sapporo type Budweiser shit), and so is wine. The Japanese do not know how to properly store or prepare wine, so it always tastes too acidic and sour. The problem is the climate is really not good for storing wines. I don't know about Scotch though, as I do not drink liquor, so I wouldn't be able to judge it.

The best French food I've ever eaten was not that week that I spent in Paris, it was in the weeks I spent in Tokyo.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395346 - 01/09/14 06:56 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I've made the mistake of trying various Asian macrobrews. Thoroughly unimpressed every time.
Pretty bad when I'd consider most of our domestic macros to have the edge on them. :lol:

Fortunately beer is one of the things I don't need to look much farther than a supermarket for good quality, in Oregon.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with Oregon beers, but I could send you a massive list of things you need to try at some point in your life. And if I ever get around to it and you have enough interest, I could probably send you a sampler someday down the road.


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    #19395382 - 01/09/14 07:02 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I've made the mistake of trying various Asian macrobrews. Thoroughly unimpressed every time.
Pretty bad when I'd consider most of our domestic macros to have the edge on them. :lol:

Fortunately beer is one of the things I don't need to look much farther than a supermarket for good quality, in Oregon.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with Oregon beers, but I could send you a massive list of things you need to try at some point in your life. And if I ever get around to it and you have enough interest, I could probably send you a sampler someday down the road.




I would love that. I am a huge fan of beer, I love it the most, I simply do not drink it very often because it interferes with my bodybuilding. I only have about 10 beers every year, but if it were up to me I would drink beer every week.

I'm a huge fan of hefeweizen's and porter's and stout's the most. A mildly sweet, fruit-tasting wheat-beer, or a rich porter that tastes like black coffee is the kind of beer that's right up my alley.

Yea Asian macro brews are ridiculously lame, it's basically like Budweiser, Coors type shit. That's why I really really wanted to start a gourmet beer bar in Tokyo... but my parents say that Japanese people would not appreciate good beer. Just like how American people do not understand the difference between good sake and bad sake, Japanese people do not know how to appreciate good wine vs bad wine.

To Japanese people, they don't drink for the taste, they drink to get drunk. And since you would have to make gourmet beer really expensive in Japan (like at least $8 a glass) over there, nobody would buy it, they say.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395415 - 01/09/14 07:08 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Sweet, I'll get to work putting together a "best of" sampler one day down the road. We really have insane variety, doing a good job with everything from IPAs to stouts, porters, hefes, imperial IPA, you name it.
Ninkasi and Deschutes really steal the show in most categories, but we've also got Widmer's, Rogue, Bridgeport, Full Sail, Boneyard, Cascade Lakes, etc.


Hell, most Americans still don't understand how to distinguish between good beverages and not-good beverages. We've only hit our beer renaissance as of late, but we are doing a damn fine job it seems.
There are almost no noteworthy distillers in the States, which makes me quite sad. Most of our whiskey is bourbon or rye, which I find uninteresting, one-dimensional, and boring.
Fortunately, other areas of the world rise admirably to that challenge. I think I could die happy (of liver failure) in Scotland.


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    #19395442 - 01/09/14 07:13 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Na what your missing is that ephedrine caffeine and aspirin have a thermogenic effect that is proven. As far as real speed been there done that when you were probably pooping your diapers. But thanks for the offer.:shrug:


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    #19395451 - 01/09/14 07:15 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I was pooping my diapers in '88, so I don't doubt that for a second.
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    #19395471 - 01/09/14 07:19 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Your thread is about food and beer now that we've established that fat people are disgusting and useless.
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Sweet, I'll get to work putting together a "best of" sampler one day down the road. We really have insane variety, doing a good job with everything from IPAs to stouts, porters, hefes, imperial IPA, you name it.
Ninkasi and Deschutes really steal the show in most categories, but we've also got Widmer's, Rogue, Bridgeport, Full Sail, Boneyard, Cascade Lakes, etc.




Out of that list I've only had Widmer's. Widmer's is pretty good, but my favorite is Karl Strauss' hefeweizen and porter as far as American goes. For foreign ales, I like Belgium's "Gouden Carolus" and "Duchesse de Bourgogne." Duchesse is a dessert beer, very sweet, and Gouden Carolus has a subtle hint of lychee in it. I strongly recommend it if you ever run in to either of those.

I have to drive to a specialty shop to find it anywhere though. And the same brand still doesn't taste as good in America, because American automatically pasteurize anything that's imported into this country.


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Hell, most Americans still don't understand how to distinguish between good beverages and not-good beverages. We've only hit our beer renaissance as of late, but we are doing a damn fine job it seems.
There are almost no noteworthy distillers in the States, which makes me quite sad. Most of our whiskey is bourbon or rye, which I find uninteresting, one-dimensional, and boring.
Fortunately, other areas of the world rise admirably to that challenge. I think I could die happy (of liver failure) in Scotland.




That's true. That also applies to cakes. I remember that I never ever liked eating American cakes, even as a kid, cause it was like all processed and too sweet. Japanese cakes and French bakeries and Whole Foods type cakes are booming now though.

Sushi is booming, but I feel like American people still don't really know how to eat sushi. They think grated wasabi is too spicy because they are too used to the horseradish substitute. And I also noticed American restaurants serve sushi rice refrigerated and cold. But actually it is supposed to be room temperature. I'm a bit of a sushi snob, and real traditional sushi is becoming a dying art form even in Japan.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19395487 - 01/09/14 07:21 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:beer:?

:tongue2:


There's quite a bit of small-batch malt whisky being made in Japan and of course a great market for scotch there. Beer might well catch on, we have to hope :tongue2: Although, it's pretty moot to me anyways; better :beer: here (US) than anywhere else :toast:

@crystal G
Safe to say you'll love anything that says "coffee stout" :thumbup: You're welcome to one of these Founders Breakfast Stouts :lol: I do like them, but much more sparingly than drier stouts and old ales/scotch ales. And I drink mostly IPAs and Hoppy Reds, but that just means more for you :tongue2: I'm a big fan of really dry and earthy imperial stouts

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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: pcplease]
    #19395496 - 01/09/14 07:24 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Deschutes' Obsidian Stout.


The stout by which I currently judge all other stouts.
PCP, I had the feeling that talk of beer would draw you out. :lol:


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    #19395553 - 01/09/14 07:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

wrong pic :facepalm: :stoned2: Guess I don't have a pic of a poured breakfast stout. It's got a nice label on it :lol:


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Deschutes' Obsidian Stout.


The stout by which I currently judge all other stouts.
PCP, I had the feeling that talk of beer would draw you out. :lol:



:grin: :toast:

Obsidian is one of my favorite year-round Imperials :thumbup: No doubt you'd like that Founders Imperial Stout, drinks as easy as Obsidian yet it's 10.5% :drunk:
Not to brag, but the best porter/stouts come from MI :grin:
Founders Breakfast and Imperial, Kentucky Breakfast Stout and Canadian Breakfast stout
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    #19395924 - 01/09/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Wait, what doees microbrews have to do with obesity?

Anyway, you wanna be obese? Heres 3 easy steps:

Step 1) Aquire a bunch of money and quit your job.

Step 2) Get a landline phone with a current phone book

Step 3) Order take-out delievered to you for every meal and never leave your house.

Step 4) Live this way for 5 years.

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    #19395938 - 01/09/14 08:59 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/FindStatesByCountry.asp?CountryID=39

Find your area, find your areas highest/best rated places, and enjoy :toast:

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    #19396129 - 01/09/14 09:49 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Deschutes' Obsidian Stout.


The stout by which I currently judge all other stouts.
PCP, I had the feeling that talk of beer would draw you out. :lol:




That looks like a bucket of used motor oil.


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    #19398042 - 01/10/14 09:32 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Mcdonalds and other fastfoods, consuming animal protein and animal fat, not moving-excersizing, diabet type 2. you can count in the sugar addiction (god damn coca cola) and some genetical and metobolical factors but  i think its combination of all.


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    #19398079 - 01/10/14 09:41 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Fats aren't very healthy, but they don't make you fat the way carbohydrates do. Body fat is produced when you have excess glucose in the blood. High amounts of sugars and starches will make you fat a lot faster than a fatty steak.


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Fats aren't very healthy, but they don't make you fat the way carbohydrates do. Body fat is produced when you have excess glucose in the blood. High amounts of sugars and starches will make you fat a lot faster than a fatty steak.




That's not actually true, is it? Because you can gain excess fat from fat as well. Even if you are on a low-carb diet, you won't lost much weight if you are eating fried chicken every day. Even excess protein has the possibility of converting to fat.


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    #19398125 - 01/10/14 09:52 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Fat doesn't get absorbed very well, either. You end up shitting it out. Sugar and starch (polymerized glucose) are pretty much the only things available immediately to the body

Fat has a higher calorie content by weight, but depending on your digestive system at the time you consume it, a decent percentage of it will never be utilized.


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    #19398147 - 01/10/14 09:57 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Fats aren't very healthy




Sure they are. Why wouldn't they be? Sure trans fat is bad, but I don't see anything bad about mono saturated fats and omega fats. What is so unhealthy about them?


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    #19398170 - 01/10/14 10:02 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I am the same exact way.. I eat tons of carbs, fruits, vegs, protein and exercise 3-4 days a week.  I still cant gain much, Im at 143lbs and its HARD and I mean HARDDDDD to gain another pound at this point.  It took me 3-4 weeks to go from 135 to 143.



:lolwut:

You're complaining about 8 pounds in 3-4 weeks?  The average human body can put on between 1-2 pounds of muscle per month.  If you gained 8 pounds in a month I guarantee there was a good chunk of fat in there.




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    #19398188 - 01/10/14 10:05 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

And how you can do that? You certainly didn't gain 2lbs of muscle if you think that all that weight is related to muscle in ~3 weeks :lol:


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    #19398210 - 01/10/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Oh, Im sorry. IS my body your guys body now?

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    #19398221 - 01/10/14 10:13 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I thought you could explain why I was wrong. I guess you aren't the special snowflake I thought you might be. :sad:


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Fats aren't very healthy




Sure they are. Why wouldn't they be? Sure trans fat is bad, but I don't see anything bad about mono saturated fats and omega fats. What is so unhealthy about them?



yeh you are right friend.. omega3 fatty acids are important also the monounsaturated fats... shortly use olive oil and be avay from animal food for your heart , arteries and overall health.


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    #19398378 - 01/10/14 10:54 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Oh, Im sorry. IS my body your guys body now?

creepers



There is no chance you put on 8 pounds of muscle in 3 weeks.  You may have weighed yourself relatively dehydrated and while working out for three weeks were more conscious of being healthy and drinking water and gained a bunch of water weight (along with a pound or two of muscle) but you did not put on 8 pounds of muscle.  That's unheard of.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
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    #19398623 - 01/10/14 11:55 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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:beer:?
:tongue2:


There's quite a bit of small-batch malt whisky being made in Japan and of course a great market for scotch there. Beer might well catch on, we have to hope :tongue2: Although, it's pretty moot to me anyways; better :beer: here (US) than anywhere else :toast:





That is hilarious. 99% of beer drunk in the US is still complete piss water like Bud (not the original good Czech one), Coors, Natural Lite etc. Get real.

A few micro brews in some areas in the last 10-15 years and you have the best beer in the world??

Have you been to Europe at all?

Pilsner/lager - Germany, Czech Republic etc.

Ales - UK

Wheat beers - Belgium

And the rest. I will admit and am glad to see that the US is slowly starting to realise that their beer is atrocious, but you are a LONG way from being the best in the world, sorry.

By the way I lived in St. Louis for over 6 years and am well aware of Budweiser and other brands, how prevalent they are and how awful they taste.

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    #19398756 - 01/10/14 12:18 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Have you been to Europe at all?

Pilsner/lager - Germany, Czech Republic etc.

Ales - UK

Wheat beers - Belgium

By the way I lived in St. Louis for over 6 years and am well aware of Budweiser and other brands, how prevalent they are and how awful they taste.

:puke:



Belgium wheat beers?  Are you kidding?  Belgium is all about the trappist ales and god are they ever fucking delicious.  Germany has far better wheat beers than Belgium.


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    #19398777 - 01/10/14 12:23 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Germany has far better wheat beers than Belgium.



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Germany has far better wheat beers than Belgium.



Yup.





I've never tried that one but Weihenstephaner is one of my favourites.



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    #19398814 - 01/10/14 12:34 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Deschutes' Obsidian Stout.


The stout by which I currently judge all other stouts.
PCP, I had the feeling that talk of beer would draw you out. :lol:




That looks like a bucket of used motor oil.





:dumbass:

I take you for a margarita kind of guy, though.

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A few micro brews in some areas in the last 10-15 years and you have the best beer in the world??





:rofl:

Since I'm going to go out on a limb and assume your only experience with American beer is Budweiser and its ilk, I'm going to call you unfit to make any sort of judgement on the matter.
By the way, St. Louis is a terrible area to be sampling beer. Good beer comes from Oregon, Michigan, and Washington. In that order.
Between those three states, that is around 360 active craft breweries. There are another seven or eight states all producing craft beer, but I've not really sampled much of their product and will not attest to its quality.

Then again, you are from the UK, and I've not met a single one of you without the most absurd sense of elitism and entitlement known to man. Coincidentally, only Scotland produces anything of note and you must live vicariously through the merits of the rest of your continent's beer. Pathetic.

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    #19398832 - 01/10/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I STRUGGLE to maintain a weight of 150. But I guess it's better that way.


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Deschutes' Obsidian Stout.


The stout by which I currently judge all other stouts.
PCP, I had the feeling that talk of beer would draw you out. :lol:




The day I had Old Rasputin RIS on Nitro-Tap, nothing could ever compare. Although that one is world class as well.


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:manofapproval:

North Coast is doing good things, have seldom been let down by any of their brews.


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Deschutes' Obsidian Stout.


The stout by which I currently judge all other stouts.
PCP, I had the feeling that talk of beer would draw you out. :lol:




That looks like a bucket of used motor oil.





:dumbass:

I take you for a margarita kind of guy, though.




Cosmopolitans. :hehehe:

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North Coast is doing good things, haven seldom been let down by any of their brews.



Their Thelonious Monk monastery ale is good. Though I admit I bought it because of the name / label.


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It's a pretty fucking good mud.
Tastes strongly of roasted malt and coffee, with a bit of chocolate-y aftertaste. Yet, sits easily enough to go through a 6-pack by yourself in a couple of hours.

Don't think you'd be able to find it in your area, though :frown:


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:beer:?
:tongue2:


There's quite a bit of small-batch malt whisky being made in Japan and of course a great market for scotch there. Beer might well catch on, we have to hope :tongue2: Although, it's pretty moot to me anyways; better :beer: here (US) than anywhere else :toast:





That is hilarious. 99% of beer drunk in the US is still complete piss water like Bud (not the original good Czech one), Coors, Natural Lite etc. Get real.

A few micro brews in some areas in the last 10-15 years and you have the best beer in the world??

Have you been to Europe at all?

Pilsner/lager - Germany, Czech Republic etc.

Ales - UK

Wheat beers - Belgium

And the rest. I will admit and am glad to see that the US is slowly starting to realise that their beer is atrocious, but you are a LONG way from being the best in the world, sorry.

By the way I lived in St. Louis for over 6 years and am well aware of Budweiser and other brands, how prevalent they are and how awful they taste.

:puke:




What are you talking about man, there's thousands of microbrews all across the country. If you walk into even chain restaurants or grocery stores like Yardhouse, BJ's, Whole Foods, or Sprouts, you will find literally over 100 microbrew beer brands in that store alone that are all microbrewed from the USA. You don't even need to go to a specialty alcohol shop to find them, they are served in CHAIN restaurants now.

Saying that Budweiser represents American beer is like saying Foster's is representative of Australia or the UK.


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    #19398887 - 01/10/14 12:49 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

He's from the UK, and I've not ever met a Brit without an obnoxious attitude.
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    #19398937 - 01/10/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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It's a pretty fucking good mud.
Tastes strongly of roasted malt and coffee, with a bit of chocolate-y aftertaste. Yet, sits easily enough to go through a 6-pack by yourself in a couple of hours.

Don't think you'd be able to find it in your area, though :frown:




This Is DC. You can get whatever you want here. I looked it up, the brewery has events in DC. Apparently, it's a big deal.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: koods]
    #19398968 - 01/10/14 01:03 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Excellent! Well, give it a try should you ever get the chance.
Most of the other brews produced by Deschutes are exceptionally delicious, too.











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    #19398970 - 01/10/14 01:03 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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:beer:?
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There's quite a bit of small-batch malt whisky being made in Japan and of course a great market for scotch there. Beer might well catch on, we have to hope :tongue2: Although, it's pretty moot to me anyways; better :beer: here (US) than anywhere else :toast:





That is hilarious. 99% of beer drunk in the US is still complete piss water like Bud (not the original good Czech one), Coors, Natural Lite etc. Get real.

A few micro brews in some areas in the last 10-15 years and you have the best beer in the world??

Have you been to Europe at all?

Pilsner/lager - Germany, Czech Republic etc.

Ales - UK

Wheat beers - Belgium

And the rest. I will admit and am glad to see that the US is slowly starting to realise that their beer is atrocious, but you are a LONG way from being the best in the world, sorry.

By the way I lived in St. Louis for over 6 years and am well aware of Budweiser and other brands, how prevalent they are and how awful they taste.

:puke:




Yeah dude, if you've never been to America, It's unlikely you'd know the extent of the craft beer industry over here.

It seems like you're basing your opinions on what Americans drink based off of the brands that advertise through the media (basically anything InBev.) The closest thing to a craft brewery with a media campaign would be like Sam Adams. Most of the good ones just don't have the resources to promote like that, regardless of how good their products are.

For real though, when I go down to the supermarket, the craft beer section is now so much bigger than the macro brewery section.

*edit* sorry just read you lived in St. Louis. But to be fair, the South has the lowest number of breweries anywhere in the country, most being in the northwest/Midwest.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: schwarg]
    #19399000 - 01/10/14 01:09 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

How does a thread about obese people turn into a 'this is where all the good beer is' discussion?

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    #19399013 - 01/10/14 01:12 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I already went over this. Back on page 3, we established that fat fucks were useless and need to die or lose weight.
Since then, Crystal G and I proceeded to steer the conversation to more interesting topics, such as beer and food. Some useless prick from the UK came in, slandering our fine brew, and now here we are.


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    #19399031 - 01/10/14 01:14 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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I already went over this. Back on page 3, we established that fat fucks were useless and need to die or lose weight.
Since then, Crystal G and I proceeded to steer the conversation to more interesting topics, such as beer and food. Some useless prick from the UK came in, slandering our fine brew, and now here we are.




So many LOL's in this thread by you. :rofl2: Especially those disses you made to that English guy... BURRNNNNN!!!! HAHAHAAH


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19399034 - 01/10/14 01:14 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

thinking about beer makes me sad. i love it, but i'm pretty sure i'm allergic to it.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #19399038 - 01/10/14 01:15 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

The most tragic of allergies. Besides like, opiate allergy, maybe.
Either one would probably make me unhappy with life.

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    #19399061 - 01/10/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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thinking about beer makes me sad. i love it, but i'm pretty sure i'm allergic to it.




I literally just started developing an allergy to alcohol too. Yesterday I had one glass of Chipotle Roast (a dark, coffee-flavored stout) at Yardhouse, and I developed a rash, itchiness, and shortness of breath. On New Year's Eve I had champagne made from Moscato grapes and it gave me the same reaction.

The reaction might be related to the hepatotoxic roids I'm on though. My entire liver is consumed with processing this super strong shit, so it can't handle booze anymore.

I technically have a morphine allergy too, but I'm still high on morphine at the moment LOLOLOLLLLL


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19399075 - 01/10/14 01:23 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I'd like some of this


with a glass of this


And I'm laughing at the source of the picture of the Scotch for listing it as a Speyside. It has Highland printed right on the fucking bottle.
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    #19399076 - 01/10/14 01:23 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Eating too much. The artificial stuff they put in the food is giving people cravings. GMO wheat has a substance in it that acts upon the opiate receptors to make people crave food. I got up to 210 at one point just gorging my ass off, or on. I lost 40 lbs. in 3 mos. by starting back smoking weed and eating small meals.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: happygolucky]
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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19399090 - 01/10/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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thinking about beer makes me sad. i love it, but i'm pretty sure i'm allergic to it.




I literally just started developing an allergy to alcohol too. Yesterday I had one glass of Chipotle Roast (a dark, coffee-flavored stout) at Yardhouse, and I developed a rash, itchiness, and shortness of breath. On New Year's Eve I had champagne made from Moscato grapes and it gave me the same reaction.

The reaction might be related to the hepatotoxic roids I'm on though. My entire liver is consumed with processing this super strong shit, so it can't handle booze anymore.

I technically have a morphine allergy too, but I'm still high on morphine at the moment LOLOLOLLLLL




It may be sulfites. Apparently, many people are sensitive.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fy731
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Sensitivity to sulfites can develop at any time during a person's lifespan, with some initial reactions not showing up until a person has reached their forties or fifties. The manifestations of sulfite sensitivity include a large array of dermatological, pulmonary, gastrointestinal, and cardiovascular symptoms. Asthmatics that are steroid-dependent or have a great degree of airway hyperreactivity may be at an increased risk of having a reaction to a sulfite containing food (Lester, 1995). Varying degrees of bronchospasm, angiodema, urticaria, nausea, abdominal cramping, and diarrhea are commonly reported (Knodel, 1997). Adverse reactions to sulfites in nonasthmatics are extremely rare.

Although literature lists a range of figures as to what percent of the population is affected, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) estimates that one out of a hundred people is sulfite-sensitive, and of that group 5% have asthma. Another source states that 5% of asthmatics are sulfite sensitive, compared to only 1% of the nonasthmatic population (Knodel, 1997), while another source estimates that up to 500,000 (or less than .05% of the population) sulfite-sensitive individuals live in the United States (Lester, 1995).

Symptoms of sulfite intolerance can occur within 5 minutes following parenteral exposure and within 15-30 minutes following oral exposure. Sensitive individuals vary in their degree of intolerance towards sulfites, with each having a specific threshold of exposure needed to elicit a reaction (Knodel, 1997). While the majority of reactions are mild, severe nonspecific signs and symptoms do occur on occasion. Although the precise mechanisms of the sensitivity responses to sulfites have not been completely elucidated, three have been implicated: inhalation of sulfur dioxide (SO2) generated in the stomach proceeding ingestion of sulfite-containing foods or beverages; deficiency in a mitochondrial enzyme; or an IgE-mediated immune response (Lester, 1995).




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    #19399106 - 01/10/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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thinking about beer makes me sad. i love it, but i'm pretty sure i'm allergic to it.




I literally just started developing an allergy to alcohol too. Yesterday I had one glass of Chipotle Roast (a dark, coffee-flavored stout) at Yardhouse, and I developed a rash, itchiness, and shortness of breath. On New Year's Eve I had champagne made from Moscato grapes and it gave me the same reaction.

The reaction might be related to the hepatotoxic roids I'm on though. My entire liver is consumed with processing this super strong shit, so it can't handle booze anymore.

I technically have a morphine allergy too, but I'm still high on morphine at the moment LOLOLOLLLLL




It may be sulfites. Apparently, many people are sensitive.




You're talking about the morphine, right? Because I have never heard of an alcohol sulfite.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19399114 - 01/10/14 01:30 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Crystal G said:
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thinking about beer makes me sad. i love it, but i'm pretty sure i'm allergic to it.




I literally just started developing an allergy to alcohol too. Yesterday I had one glass of Chipotle Roast (a dark, coffee-flavored stout) at Yardhouse, and I developed a rash, itchiness, and shortness of breath. On New Year's Eve I had champagne made from Moscato grapes and it gave me the same reaction.

The reaction might be related to the hepatotoxic roids I'm on though. My entire liver is consumed with processing this super strong shit, so it can't handle booze anymore.

I technically have a morphine allergy too, but I'm still high on morphine at the moment LOLOLOLLLLL




It may be sulfites. Apparently, many people are sensitive.




You're talking about the morphine, right? Because I have never heard of an alcohol sulfite.




I posted additional info in the post above, but no... Sulfites are found in foods and, in particular, beer and wine.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19399119 - 01/10/14 01:31 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

for me i'm almost certain it's an allergy to hops. i don't have issues with liquor, but beer makes me terribly itchy, congested, and generally uncomfortable. i get the same reaction with marijuana, which is related to hops. i'm sure if i were to roll around in either of them in their raw form, i'd break out in hives--this actually happened when i was tying back my outdoor crop a couple years ago and it was so awful.

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    #19399141 - 01/10/14 01:34 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Sulfites are both natural (dark beers, especially) and added. In wines, they are generally added but some naturally occurring as well.


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    #19399155 - 01/10/14 01:37 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I wonder if the legal states will start to get some THC infused booze drinks in stores now. Now that is definitely a product to get started on... I know I'd buy some.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: koods]
    #19399157 - 01/10/14 01:37 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Oh, I just realized I was confusing it for morphine SULFATE.

What is a sulfite, and what other foods is it highest in?

I really honestly think that I'm having a reaction to alcohol because my liver isn't processing alcohol properly since it's on hepatotoxic compounds right now. It probably is taking up all my liver enzymes, similar to how MDMA and DXM don't mix for the same reason.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Uzziel]
    #19399168 - 01/10/14 01:39 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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I wonder if the legal states will start to get some THC infused booze drinks in stores now. Now that is definitely a product to get started on... I know I'd buy some.





I've heard of some places already doing so with beer, and they certainly have plenty of non-alcoholic drinks available widely.


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Oh, I just realized I was confusing it for morphine SULFATE.

What is a sulfite, and what other foods is it highest in?

I really honestly think that I'm having a reaction to alcohol because my liver isn't processing alcohol properly since it's on hepatotoxic compounds right now. It probably is taking up all my liver enzymes, similar to how MDMA and DXM don't mix for the same reason.




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Your reaction seems very similar to sulfite sensitivity, although I have known a few people of Asian decent that have a visible reaction to alcohol itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: koods]
    #19400190 - 01/10/14 04:58 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

koods: i know what sulfites are, i even know what their chemical structure looks like and how to draw them. what i have going on isn't a sulfite reaction--i can eat salami and bacon with no issue--it's just beer and weed that i have problems with.


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    #19400211 - 01/10/14 05:01 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Cured meats have nitrites, not sulfites.


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NitrAtes and sulfites are both found in cured meats, at least here in Oz. Not sure on restrictions for other countries.


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It is illegal to add sulfites to meat in the US.


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Re: How the fuck does someone become obese? [Re: Uzziel]
    #19400472 - 01/10/14 06:03 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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How does a thread about obese people turn into a 'this is where all the good beer is' discussion?

:lol:



Lmao I was just about to ask if any thread here over 2 pages end up ever talking about what ever it is the thread was talking about to begin with.


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    #19400509 - 01/10/14 06:12 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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I should brew Beerijuana. A project!




I don't know if weed has ever been tested for lupulin, but it could easily contain it and could be a total substitute for hops. They share pretty much the same spectrum of flavors- Limonene(?), pinene, mycrene; Hemp just has a lot more of those flavors.


Brewing with hops wouldn't leave significant THC in the finished product. That would have to be done by adding an extract/tincture.


Just poured this Black Jack porter (Left Hand Brewing)

Really crisp for 6.8%, must be pretty heavily hopped. Hard to tell with some of these english IPAs as the earthy/green flavors of Old World (English) hops blend so well with the roasty espresso flavors of the malt, but being very crisp gives it away.

On another note I had a strong craving for some Islay earlier and realized I have none. Gonna have to change that soon :strokebeard:

:cheers:

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dry hop it with weed instead of hops and call it a High-PA :rofl:


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