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casing by weight
    #19391717 - 01/09/14 01:58 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I have some experience in growing with the normal pf tek and liquid cultures but I'm looking into different casing methods before my first attempt. Every casing method I see seems to use volumetric measurements for its recipes. being a chemist I always feel more comfortable when solid ingredients measured by mass (for consistency's sake. does anyone know of a casing tek that uses masses?

p.s. first post as a non lurker I hope this is in the right spot.


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Re: casing by weight [Re: Infamousshrooms]
    #19391808 - 01/09/14 02:35 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Interesting!  :ohsodevious:

While I doubt there is a direct tek asking for what you want to know it's an interesting point. We do rely on volumetric measurements for basically 100% of our work.

Are you planning on working with a grain or a casing material that is not usually used?

If not then all I can say is to stop thinking of it so much as an exact science. That's not to say that there is no need to be precise. But if you're using the same materials in the teks then I encourage you to think of it more like 'cooking' than like laboratory work. 

There are no sig figs to account for. No equations that need to be balanced on paper. Just as an example, if you're spawning grains to bulk there is going to be little difference between using 1000 grams of substrate and 1100 or 900.  They will all yield about the same.

Don't get me wrong. I understand what you want since my mind kind of works the same way. I wanted precise measurements for everything in the beginning.  But you're not going to gain any significant advantage by using mass over volume.  Other than for record-keeping anyway.


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Re: casing by weight [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19391817 - 01/09/14 02:38 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Also, Welcome to the land of the posting! :aweohyou:


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The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

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Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

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Re: casing by weight [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19391876 - 01/09/14 02:59 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Everything Tiger said, plus too high a σ in mass for casing material at same volumes.

I'm moving to grains myself, and wished for the same thing. :smile:


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Re: casing by weight [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19396758 - 01/10/14 12:15 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

thanks for the info and the encouragement. I'm sometimes a little too analytical for my own good. but on another note I'm am trying a little different substrates for my casing. I have normal brown rice flower cakes, spent brewers grain and verm cakes(i brew my own beer so i have a lot of spent grain) and I have a mixture that's half brf cakes and half spent brewers grain.
they are in wide mouth pint jars that I inoculated with a good dose of liquid culture.


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Re: casing by weight [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19396800 - 01/10/14 12:28 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

i like the pint jars but they were taking so long to colonize when i first started. I ordered 16g 3 inch long needles and that allows for a great distribution of the liquid culture with 2-3 ml of liquid culture per injection my cakes are colonizing in about 2 weeks although i let them go a few days longer just to make sure.
I have enough cakes so that I can birth one and just try it out uncased while I case the rest of them to see the differences in harvest.
I'm still debating on my casing material I have coir, verm, calcium carbonate (chemist:grin:) and I plan on buying some peat at wally world. I will either go with the coir/verm tek or I will use pH balanced peat casing.


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