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How datura can hurt people other than those who take it
    #19390941 - 01/08/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Just thought of this. You know how some girls are quick to have guy friends beat someone else up if that someone gives them a problem? Well, picture one of those types of girls who tries datura and has hallucinations of her ex-boyfriend looking at her. She could then call up one of her guy friends and have them hurt him.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: s240779] * 12
    #19390952 - 01/08/14 10:18 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Your name, this post, and the reason it was even posted has me so confused.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: s240779] * 6
    #19390973 - 01/08/14 10:21 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

And when that punkass came knocking at my door I would stab him in the kidney. Then I'd call up that bitch and be like "Damnit Theresa the next time you wanna get high just smoke some weed or Ill cut your tits off and slap your grandma with them".


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: niteman]
    #19390995 - 01/08/14 10:27 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

yeah.  there are a bajillion ways datura can hurt those who didnt take it.



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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: memes]
    #19391004 - 01/08/14 10:29 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I feel like you've been staring at your hands too long :P


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19391045 - 01/08/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that plant to hell where it belongs !!!


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: andrewmurray86] * 16
    #19391052 - 01/08/14 10:45 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

another way datura can hurt people other than those who take it is you can think that you are smoking a cigarette but in actuality you are serving undercooked chicken to dinner guests


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #19391067 - 01/08/14 10:49 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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another way datura can hurt people other than those who take it is you can think that you are smoking a cigarette but in actuality you are serving undercooked chicken to dinner guests



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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: s240779]
    #19391077 - 01/08/14 10:53 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

There's this guy on Bluelight who says datura is one of the best psychedelics ever -- better than acid:


Misinformation, misunderstanding, ignorance around datura

Hi Friends, my first post.

I want to clear up a lot of pitiful misinformation and misunderstanding about datura.
The first and overwhelmingly important thing about datura is this:

If you are not at least vegetarian (better still, vegan), then you deserve whatever you get. If you have the karma of killing, destroying life, and expect to get a good trip off this most spiritual and transcendent substance, then you deserve what is coming your way. That's what makes people who say "You should make an ointment containing pig lard" so pitiful and sad and laughable.

If you are vegetarian/vegan, you are spiritually inclined, you can handle your pot, LSD, shrooms and ecstasy, and you have a good friend who knows a thing or two about the universe, you are perfectly ready for the most easily-obtainable, legal, bountiful, cheapest, and life-affirming, transcendent, amazing, superb, enlightening, indescribable experiences available to humankind.

Whenever you read about datura, people invariably go on at length about the dangers, the hopitalisations, the "I've done 5000 acids trips but never wanna touch that stuff". This is all par for the course for average, meat-eating, non-spiritual, non-seeking, normal people.

If you are looking for the next level, the ultimate experience, and you have purified your karmic lifeforce by not killing and destroying life for a few years, have mastered acid and the like, and have a few good friends the same, then you have no limits to your life's fulfillment with the aid of this most sacred and holy plant.

As for ways of taking it, the most simply and effective way is simply munch on a fresh flower. It does not taste particularly bad, and this way you can easily monitor your dosage. Take literally a few small nibbles every now and then - the beauty of this method is, it is pretty hard to overdose - no-one wants to take a huge bite of a fresh flower - it's counterintuitive and physically difficult, as opposed to, say, gulping down a cup of tea or swallowing seeds.

The drug is free, it is legal, it is many times more brilliant than LSD, it is transcendent.

But if you hope to get any of these positive effects whilst still having the karma of killing and destroying life, you quite simply deserve whatever your karma throws at you.

This is the worst misunderstanding about drugs, I believe; people don't seem to realise that they are so highly subjective in respect of the user's state of karmic purity or impurity. If you have purified your self (a careful 24 or 48 hour fast, with just fresh juice and water is ideal), & have been spiritually inclined and vegetarian (or better, vegan) for at least a year, then you are well on the way to a beatific experience. Otherwise, you get what you deserve.

Not many people know or acknowledge any of this, even though it is the utter truth. Datura is, despite being by far and away the most potent psychoactive drug known to humankind, completely legal and exceedingly easy to acquire more than you could ever possibly need. The irony of this is so profound that it makes you laugh out loud and pity the deluded, lost, pitiful authorities who have no idea about anything whatsoever. And if you are the right person for it, then (apart from weed), you will never, ever, ever need any other psychoactive drug.

I am quite aware that zillions of people will take offense at this and say that there is nothing wrong with destroying life, that there is no such thing as karma, and it makes no difference whether you kill animals or not in regard to your experience on drugs. But even though they say so, they are wrong. I know. I took acid trips as a meat eater, and at best had a buzzy time. At worst, had an horrific time with evil hallucinations, self-mutilation thoughts - literally the desire for self-disembowelment, putting a knife to my stomach and slashing out the innards - quite literally hellish experiences. After becoming vegan, they were incredible. After moving on to datura, there is utterly no comparison whatsoever.

I can only urge all of you to give up killing and destroying life, and reap the rewards of blissful experience.
In terms of the experience itself, it can range from a mild acid trip, without hallucination, to a strong acid trip, with some hallucination, to a full-blown hallucinatory experience. Granted, it is easy to tip over the edge into disassociativeness and lose the grip on reality, which is the severely unwanted experience. This may happen (has to me) the first time, but as long as you are sensible with the dosage, are not out wandering the streets, have someone else there, then the worst that can happen is you talk to your TV as if it were a real person, or your take all your clothes off and wake up naked. As long as you're at home, and don't let yourself go to a club or wander down the street, then you are fine.

In any event, this should only happen one time. After it does, you never want it to happen again, and will be infinitely more careful with dosage. Furthermore, as with any drug or substance, the body and mind get used to it. After the first time, you are prepared for the shock; your brain is steeled for it. Most likely, the next time you took it, you wouldn't even have any hallucination whatsoever because you are so wary of tipping over like last time.

Once you get the balance right, you can have pure hallucinatory, visionary experiences or just a killer acid-like trip, amazing and wondrous.

But unless you are free of the karma of killing and destroying life, you are just wasting your time and if you end up crazy, in hospital or dead, then it's simply your own fault.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: s240779]
    #19391155 - 01/08/14 11:12 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

interesting fact: the name datura comes from the indian word dhatura (sanskrit dhat = gift), and is in reference to ancient myth that datura and ganja were two gifts granted by shiva--of his favourite intoxicants--to humanity--another name for datura is shivashekhara (shiva's crown)


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: s240779] * 1
    #19391180 - 01/08/14 11:21 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

What a self righteous asshole. I'm a vegan and I don't go around shoving it down peoples throats like he did right there.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: s240779]
    #19391282 - 01/08/14 11:51 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Snotfish]
    #19391291 - 01/08/14 11:52 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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Your name, this post, and the reason it was even posted has me so confused.



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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Sheekle]
    #19391293 - 01/08/14 11:53 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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Your name, this post, and the reason it was even posted has me so confused.



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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19391294 - 01/08/14 11:53 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I actually want to change my username.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19392826 - 01/09/14 09:39 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

dude thats pretty sweet!


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #19392842 - 01/09/14 09:43 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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another way datura can hurt people other than those who take it is you can think that you are smoking a cigarette but in actuality you are serving undercooked chicken to dinner guests




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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19392861 - 01/09/14 09:48 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Synthe]
    #19392941 - 01/09/14 10:06 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Also, someone dry a bunch of datura plants and press them together with glue and then use the newly formed stick to slap someone.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19393514 - 01/09/14 12:27 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I did this when I was a teen, never again, luckily I just tried to sleep it off but I couldn't tell the difference between dreams and reality


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19393744 - 01/09/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Also, someone dry a bunch of datura plants and press them together with glue and then use the newly formed stick to slap someone.



extract sclopamine from datura, press into rolls, sell as molly



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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Salomon]
    #19393769 - 01/09/14 01:43 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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If you are vegetarian/vegan, you are spiritually inclined, you can handle your pot, LSD, shrooms and ecstasy, and you have a good friend who knows a thing or two about the universe, you are perfectly ready for the most easily-obtainable, legal, bountiful, cheapest, and life-affirming, transcendent, amazing, superb, enlightening, indescribable experiences available to humankind.




Oh cool, this is totally me. The next time I trip will be shroomadaturhuaska fer sure. My mighty vegan soul will protect me from the inherent pharmacology of scopolamine.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19393833 - 01/09/14 02:00 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:dawerp:
I confirm the hilarity of this thread.:lmafo:

My landlord got jabbed by my stramoniums thorn apples, thats physical pain caused by datura to someone who didnt take it :awesomenod:


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19393874 - 01/09/14 02:10 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Also, someone dry a bunch of datura plants and press them together with glue and then use the newly formed stick to slap someone.



I don't know what the purpose of gluing them together would be, but it would certainly hurt like fuck to get hit with those spiky seed pods.



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    #19415606 - 01/14/14 02:49 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: s240779]
    #21751346 - 06/02/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Last time I took datura I spent about 12 hours pissing myself hysterically for good reason I'm sure but I can't remember for the life of me why. Seriously manic bursts of laughter and the next day a neighbour of mine knocked on my door and asked what I was using. She must have been weirded out that someone can reach that level of amusement. I denyed it. She looked at my in disbelief as I laughed once again and closed the door...

The time before that I spent 6 nights in this cottage out in a big forest park with no electricity besides a couple of lights powered by a solar panel. I was mostly there to use aya but the datura is what made the trip worth while. My god it was so amazing seeing all these visions of people in the trees. So intricate in detail and infinite in possibitys. Not to mention the birds in the morning. Kookaburras would laugh uncannyly in sync with funny thoughts I was having. And at one point I was looking for the exit of this house party I thought I was at because I couldn't jel with anyone on account of my not being able to talk prop per when coming through the entrance was this guy I don't know. I sort of shyed away a bit and he says to me "hello I'm shy" I imediatly perked up and said hello I'm not here. Opened my eyes to find myself back in the cottage laughing about it. I also lost a thong. I can't stress enough how important it is to keep tabs on ya stuff prior to dosage. But I won't here. Just do it.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Nevilleskat]
    #21751352 - 06/02/15 02:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its been said before here in this forum that giant insects have appeared during the experience. This happened to me once. Freaky cylinder shaped transparent golf ball sized insects. I isolated a couple of them against a wall after being pretty shocked they were there at all the blood splatter stayed on the wall but no other evidence was left. Nothing at all. I recon they cart away there dead like ants. Creepy.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Nevilleskat]
    #21751488 - 06/02/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've tried smoking it (with the erb) and haven't noticed any sort of profound effects that identify as Datura. Maybe one day when I get the chance I'll try for oral consumption.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Hudson]
    #21751517 - 06/02/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

dont they use similiar shit in columbia to rob people of shit like organs and money? makes you a complacent zombie from the doc i watched.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Mescalean]
    #21751531 - 06/02/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its funny how in reading the history of datura the Native Americans used it in ceremony for helping with their deer hunting. Funny how vegans(not all) think everyone who doesnt do things their way are doing it wrong


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: Mescalean]
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dont they use similiar shit in columbia to rob people of shit like organs and money? makes you a complacent zombie from the doc i watched.





I think I know what you're talking about, that documentary is about Brugmansia or "Angels Trumpet". It's related, but not the same as Datura.


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Its funny how in reading the history of datura the Native Americans used it in ceremony for helping with their deer hunting. Funny how vegans(not all) think everyone who doesnt do things their way are doing it wrong




:whathesaid:

Seriously, no problem with veganism or vegetarianism here but what the hell...get outta here with that "spiritually inclined" malarkey.


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Re: How datura can hurt people other than those who take it [Re: 1234go]
    #21751687 - 06/02/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This thread had me :rofl:


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