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Is it time to pick these Caps? veil torn, but small
    #19389744 - 01/08/14 06:05 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

hey guys, i have some Cambodians here that have been fruiting for about a week. the other 3 cakes are pinning, im guessing this one was just fast.

Also, is this an example of side pinning? what could i have done to helped them grow on the top? does the vermiculite layer look too thick on the top

and finally, is fuzzy feet a sign of anything bad? like is the humidity too low?


Cap #1
This one always grew perpindicular to the cake, ending up twisting and falling on the perlite to its own weight. im assuming this is the bad effect of side pinning. Is this guy ready to pick? the veil seems torn, but it may have been torn early due to falling and spinning




cap #2
I never really had hope in this ugly fellow, he started growing perpendicular, but then ran along the side of the cake and bumped into another pin  :facepalm3: . just last night he decided to finally start growing towards the top. and as you can see, the cap is a little mangled. i think this may be from running into the pin during growth. or possible from dryness,,,,but i mist like a mad fucker


(the ugly cap in center of pic)


Thank you for any input guys!


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Re: Is it time to pick these Caps? veil torn, but small [Re: PNW UW]
    #19389765 - 01/08/14 06:08 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Yep harvest, They're pretty OK size for a PF cake, you don't really get side pins on a cake 90% of the time the pins form on the sides anyway. Side pins is talk that goes with monotubs or bulk substrates in containers. Fuzzy stems is usually indicative of needing more FAE, Are there 1/4 inch holes in all six sides spaced 2 inches apart in a grid pattern, is the SGFC elevated?


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Re: Is it time to pick these Caps? veil torn, but small [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19389832 - 01/08/14 06:19 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

hmm FAE is probably a problem, i was a little reluctant drilling holes. they are probably close to 3", but the holes are 1/4 inch (including bottom and lid, 3" perlite). ill see if this tub will work just adding mroe holes, or if the pattern is weird ill buy a new tub.

its also not elevated, im going to have to see if i can find a place to put it u p elevated. my landlord has been a round a lot latley.


Do you think the mushroom falling over was also due to low FAE? or was that just bunk genetics? ive never seen a cap grow at a 90 degree angle like that lol.


Also, in the last picture, all the way on the left one of my large caps that is still in a "ball" has its veil torn. i was assuming that the cap will still 'open up' but is it possibly done?


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Re: Is it time to pick these Caps? veil torn, but small [Re: PNW UW]
    #19389864 - 01/08/14 06:25 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Pick as soon as veil tears for optimum potency and food quality.


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Re: Is it time to pick these Caps? veil torn, but small [Re: Kazak]
    #19389961 - 01/08/14 06:44 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

awesome, these two are getting dried today :P.
its funny, i couldnt really see the fuzzy feet in real life at all. using a flash made me realize how fuzzy they are XD


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Re: Is it time to pick these Caps? veil torn, but small [Re: PNW UW]
    #19390005 - 01/08/14 06:53 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

hmm FAE is probably a problem, i was a little reluctant drilling holes. they are probably close to 3", but the holes are 1/4 inch (including bottom and lid, 3" perlite). ill see if this tub will work just adding mroe holes, or if the pattern is weird ill buy a new tub.

  I say 4-6 inches of perlite with closer to 6 being the best

its also not elevated, im going to have to see if i can find a place to put it u p elevated. my landlord has been a round a lot latley.

  if it's not elevated the bottom holes might as well not be there -see below for explanation of SGFC function

Do you think the mushroom falling over was also due to low FAE? or was that just bunk genetics? ive never seen a cap grow at a 90 degree angle like that lol.

  Genetic and environmental probably :shrug: shit happens


Also, in the last picture, all the way on the left one of my large caps that is still in a "ball" has its veil torn. i was assuming that the cap will still 'open up' but is it possibly done?

  Done is relative, Done is when you harvest them which for most people is either before the veil tears while they're still sort of ball shaped or after the veil opens right before they drop spores. I prefer not to give them the chance to drop spores but some will because I'm not home all the time. I like to pick them when they're in "ball" form. After "ball" form they just pick up extra water to complete the spore dropping part of the cycle so it's more time in the dehydrator and no extra potency.

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Fruiting Chamber
A SGFC has 1/4" holes spaces 2 inches apart in a grid patten on all six sides. 4-6 inches of moist perlite. No attachments made to it with any extra things like humidifiers. Optimally the SGFC should be in the middle of a room. No fans should be run in the room with the SGFC, but a cracked window is OK. A humidifier in your house can help to raise the ambient RH but don't put it near your SGFC put it in the other corner of the room if you do decide to run a humidifier at all. The SGFC IMO should have at least 6-12 inches of room from any wall on all 6 sides. This includes finding some sort of raisers to elevate the SGFC off of the surface it's on.


Misting and Fanning.
This is a source of much grief and 100's of posts a week here. Misting and fanning is not at all complicated as it needs to be. In general you'll mist your cakes until they glisten(yes they can even with the verm on them) and then fan right after the mist. You can mist your cakes directly and you should. When you notice the cake is no longer glistening you can mist it again and then fan. This occurs on average of 3-5 times a day. Don't worry about sleeping or being gone 12 hours. Just do it when you're around and don't forget about it is all. Fanning is not FAE it's only purpose is to relive the high RH air so that the cakes can get a kickstart on evaporation.

FAE
This is a phenomenon (Fresh air exchange) in a properly built SGFC this is constantly happening. The perlite is naturally cooler than the surrounding air this moves molecules closer to eachother as the lose kinetic energy. This creates low pressure which pulls air up through the bottom holes. As the air moves through the perlite it picks up humidity and keeps the chamber at or above 90%RH. This occurs naturally without the fanning and is why we like to have no fans in the room and is also why fanning after misting is not a replacement for FAE.

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Fanning is not a replacement for constant FAE.

You would need to fan several times per hour.



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