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zappaisgod
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19389324 - 01/08/14 05:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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andrewmurray86 said: Zappa, we have been through this before, Forbes isn't a scientific publication, it's a financial rag 
So? The IPCC isn't a scientific organization either. That wasn't a scientific article. It was a fraud exposing article. The 97% figure is a fucking lie. Do you dispute the facts presented or are you just tilting at a straw man?
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: koods]
#19389346 - 01/08/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: Girls have vaginas.
good lord.
She certainly had an odd sense of humor.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389375 - 01/08/14 05:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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andrewmurray86 said: Zappa, we have been through this before, Forbes isn't a scientific publication, it's a financial rag 
So? The IPCC isn't a scientific organization either. That wasn't a scientific article. It was a fraud exposing article. The 97% figure is a fucking lie. Do you dispute the facts presented or are you just tilting at a straw man?
Christ... IPCC isn't a scientific organization... They compile the reports that scientists from around the world send them. That doesn't make the data false.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19389377 - 01/08/14 05:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It doesn't make it true either.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19389426 - 01/08/14 05:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It doesn't make it true either.
No shit. It's science. It never aims to "prove" anything. Only provide evidence. As far as the validity of the data, you are talking about roughly 1000 scientists compiling data that is mostly in support of each other and entirely logical based on the elementary scientific principles involved
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19389427 - 01/08/14 05:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What straw man Zappa?
24/14000 articles disagree with AGW. The article you posted is an opinion piece that tries to discredit one person.
No wonder your views are skewed here. If you prefer reading that over actual facts well, I've said it al before in the Snow in Egypt thread. You haven't presented anything compelling there or here.
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let me highlight some small but important words luvdemshrooms
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If you truly want to ignore global warming and the consensus from the scientific community regarding its reality, urgency and anthropogenic nature, you can do that
Yes you seem to have trouble understanding that this is not me telling you are ignoring AGW altogether and that it's not me saying you made a claim that there aren't scientists on both sides of the issue. There is consensus though! Isn't that funny, see I didn't write the things you must have read!
Just as a side note, 51% is a majority, but it's 97%, that's just about unanimous, enough to be written of as an aberration. although for your sake we won't do that 
edit: spelling
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19389443 - 01/08/14 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It doesn't make it true either.
No shit. It's science. It never aims to "prove" anything. Only provide evidence
The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions. So far they get a giant F in prediction regarding Climate Change and especially regarding AGW. An F-
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19389451 - 01/08/14 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It doesn't make it true either.
No shit.
Yup. No shit.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389469 - 01/08/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389472 - 01/08/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It doesn't make it true either.
No shit. It's science. It never aims to "prove" anything. Only provide evidence
The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions. So far they get a giant F in prediction regarding Climate Change and especially regarding AGW. An F-
But duuuuuuuude... 97%!
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389494 - 01/08/14 05:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It doesn't make it true either.
No shit. It's science. It never aims to "prove" anything. Only provide evidence
The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions. So far they get a giant F in prediction regarding Climate Change and especially regarding AGW. An F-
Perhaps you should take some science courses so you can have a bigger appreciation for just how complex the climate is. Making accurate predictions is something that comes after forming a hypothesis and putting it through rigorous testing. As far as i know, this is the only earth we have tried to maintain suitable for human life in the face of large scale climate change. Your expectations as far as predictions go are far too high on this one. We can only base it on what we know about the various systems on this planet and what we observe in other terrestrial planets. We cannot account for everything.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19389645 - 01/08/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions.
Really?
Yes, really
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19389660 - 01/08/14 05:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It doesn't make it true either.
No shit. It's science. It never aims to "prove" anything. Only provide evidence
The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions. So far they get a giant F in prediction regarding Climate Change and especially regarding AGW. An F-
Perhaps you should take some science courses so you can have a bigger appreciation for just how complex the climate is. Making accurate predictions is something that comes after forming a hypothesis and putting it through rigorous testing. As far as i know, this is the only earth we have tried to maintain suitable for human life in the face of large scale climate change. Your expectations as far as predictions go are far too high on this one. We can only base it on what we know about the various systems on this planet and what we observe in other terrestrial planets. We cannot account for everything.
I have taken plenty of science courses. There is no large scale climate change and absolutely no evidence that humans are causing whatever is changing, which is a constant, and entirely within global historic norms.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389703 - 01/08/14 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions.
Really?
Yes, really
you sure you aren't getting confused with your bookie?
My odds are on that you are
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389846 - 01/08/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions.
Really?
Yes, really
No.
It is very difficult to make predictions about very complicated systems like climate. However, there is a simple fact that cannot be disputed: An increase in atmospheric CO2 means an increase in the ratio of heat energy being retained by the planet compared to heat energy being radiated back into space. Atmospheric CO2 levels have driven earth's climate for billions of years.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: koods]
#19389880 - 01/08/14 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The sole purpose of science is to make accurate predictions.
Really?
Yes, really
No.
It is very difficult to make predictions about very complicated systems like climate. However, there is a simple fact that cannot be disputed: An increase in atmospheric CO2 means an increase in the ratio of heat energy being retained by the planet compared to heat energy being radiated back into space. Atmospheric CO2 levels have driven earth's climate for billions of years.
At what point in that post did I say it was easy? I said it was the purpose. Kin U REED?
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389886 - 01/08/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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kin u reed? is that like, chinese, or something?
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: something super extreme]
#19389902 - 01/08/14 06:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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its a chinese person trying to say keanu reeves
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: hidenseek1]
#19389909 - 01/08/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah, that makes sense. I wouldn't trust Keanu Reeves science, though. Seems suspect.
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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: something super extreme]
#19390001 - 01/08/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah he doesn't seem like the smartest guy really.
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