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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19388958 - 01/08/14 04:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Did you read the actual peer-reviewed articles I posted the link to?

I highly doubt it given the time-frame.

I think the only butt-hurtedness is yours? Like I said, you can form your own opinion, it's a blessing of living in a country that allows it :laugh:

I'm not sure why you think my post reeks of dumb statements, all I've done is sum up your own posts and point out their flaws.

You haven't addressed anything I've actually said. So I'll wait for you to reply to those points, without making up side issues or misquoting or other distraction tactics and you can point of where I said you are denying global warming. Only that you are denying the consensus on this issue, not the same thing.

Seriously though, read the articles I posted, they are actual papers from actual journals. You might learn something.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19388989 - 01/08/14 04:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not to be rude, but i can explain the carbon cycle to a child. You don't even need proof to know that climate change is an inevitable consequence of burning fossil fuels. But if you really won't be budged without the proof I'm sure the IPCC will tell you everything you need to know about current climate change.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19388992 - 01/08/14 04:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My posts say that there are scientists on both sides of the issue. Where is that flawed?

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you can point of where I said you are denying global warming.




OK.

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So, in summary, please refrain from speaking unless you're going to provide real* evidence that AGW isn't happening.




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19388663#19388663

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I'm not sure why you think my post reeks of dumb statements




Because all I've said is there are scientists on both sides of the issue.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19389012 - 01/08/14 04:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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My posts say that there are scientists on both sides of the issue. Where is that flawed?






There are also creation "Scientists" and George Ricaurte was also a "scientist". Know the very basics of the carbon cycle and it isn't that hard to know which side to pick. At least as far as answering the question of whether it is/isn't happening.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19389020 - 01/08/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't picked any side, merely pointed out that all scientists do not agree.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19389038 - 01/08/14 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you're claiming that there are scientists on both sides then why would you quote me asking you to show evidence of such? Asking you to prove your point does not equate me saying you are denying AGW.


Nice job on the misquotes though :wink: have you read those articles yet?


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19389051 - 01/08/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I quoted you for a reason that should be clear to even you.

Point me to any quote I claimed you made that you actually didn't make.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19389058 - 01/08/14 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, no, enough distraction, have you read the articles?


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: theonlysun81]
    #19389059 - 01/08/14 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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The right wing position on climate change is driven by their political allies and benefactors in the business community. The left does not have extremely wealthy and influential allies trying to promote a particular take on the science.




Oh no?  How did Al Gore get so rich from it?

My position on the AGW craze is this.  The climate changes.  It always has.  See this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Project_for_Ice_Coring_in_Antarctica

There is absolutely nothing exceptional about the current state of the climate.  If anybody has an agenda here it is the environmentalist Luddites who would have us in teepees burning buffalo dung.  There have already been a few people expressing the desire that there be fewer people.  I always recommend that they should follow their beliefs and it take it one small step at a time.  Every little bit helps.




http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/apr/17/desertification

I mean, maybe the climate has behaved like this before, but I'm sure in those times the earth did not have to support a population of close 8 billion people. I think what climate change studies show is that human activity plays a role in the function of the environment and all to often it is harmful.



So do termites.  I don't think the total biomass has changed, just it's constitution


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19389082 - 01/08/14 04:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No, no, enough distraction, have you read the articles?




No, no, enough distraction, can you show where my statement that there are scientists on both sides of the issue is incorrect?


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19389091 - 01/08/14 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no, no enough now, Have you read the articles? Obviously not.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19389097 - 01/08/14 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, no, enough distraction, can you show where my statement that there are scientists on both sides of the issue is incorrect?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19389102 - 01/08/14 04:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no you didnt read the articles

no YOU didnt read the articles


no YOU

NO YOU

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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19389111 - 01/08/14 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Girls have vaginas.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #19389142 - 01/08/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i was gonna read the papers

until i got high

i was gonna understand science

but then i got high


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19389143 - 01/08/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Girls have vaginas.



Some of them.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19389150 - 01/08/14 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've never met one who didn't.

Although I suspect so many that are unable to comprehend simple English are genitleless.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19389155 - 01/08/14 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I haven't picked any side, merely pointed out that all scientists do not agree.




I'm not saying you have or haven't, but there is a pretty strong agreement (read IPCC's reports) in the scientific community. There are always those who don't agree, and in some cases they are right or even geniuses, in this one it is very very unlikely. We understand the mechanisms of carbon in regards to the climate pretty well. While we can't predict the exact impact it will have on the earth due to the complexity of the climate, we can take a hint from our two nearest planetary neighbors which represent the extreme ends of the spectrum. Not saying we will ever make it that far as we would probably die off well before we caused that kind of damage, but we don't need to make it that far for it to be a bad thing for us. Simply forcing organisms to migrate so rapidly could cause ecological disasters which could have very real impacts on our survival.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19389157 - 01/08/14 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Google: Thai ladyboys.


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Re: I don't know what happened to that global warming promise, but somebody didn't deliver... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19389165 - 01/08/14 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Google: Thai ladyboys.




No. Besides, they aren't ladies.


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