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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19388662 - 01/08/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Icyus I think you might need to be fixed a little bit.

Following liquidglass' lead, I'm out too.


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: maddad]
    #19388673 - 01/08/14 03:19 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Very well then :wink: safe trawels...


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19388675 - 01/08/14 03:19 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Icyus said:
It is annoying you would come to that judgement... you havent a clue about what you speak of. This is my current belief... either that or you know a tiny bit and is too short sighted to think yourself through my words.





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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389114 - 01/08/14 04:38 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Shaman or not it does not matter to me.. let me ask those questions in different way.
When did you come to this realization? And how did you come to it... Can you describe the energy that you acted upon and that acted upon you..
What made you be and do? :grin:


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389315 - 01/08/14 05:04 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Icyus said:
I am an adventurer. I am more or less self-thaught, though advised and guided by a few different people from my own country...





What makes this different from most of us here?


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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: ivander]
    #19389359 - 01/08/14 05:09 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Man.. my mind is really fucked... I am originally very calculating and have traits of autism... more so, I am very creative and poetic.. which means that for me to answer concrete questions I need them often to be self refferencing, else I could only give VERY abstract, and to the situation basicly meaningless answers..

sorry, but I have no idea what you are refferencing to.. could you like write.. instead of; snowballs. Hlw do you feel about it.. (my mind doesnt connect the two to well).. so write how do you feel anout snowballs.. or not...

Maybe I should check here tomorrow.. I am having trouble reading aswell... I see  the words, but I can not catch their story..



Icelander; to my knowledge.. there is the most common type of shamanism and a lesser known hawayan shamanism, where instead of warriors there are adventurers.


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389623 - 01/08/14 05:45 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

That really doesn't answer my question. 

I'm not really convinced from reading your past post history that you are any different from most of the rabble here.


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icelander]
    #19389649 - 01/08/14 05:50 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Man, I promise you one thing; I know alot of things... though I am often forced to use this annoying collection of words.... I am an oaf. I post alot of idiotic posts. I do not try to do this, but I am an Oaf yet the same... we can only be who we are.. no more.. no less.. is my opinion atleast, in many ways..


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And thus begins the  reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389725 - 01/08/14 06:02 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

What sort of questions do you want to be asked? You aren't really answering anyone's questions.


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #19389736 - 01/08/14 06:04 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I thought about if you wished to know anything.. like heal wounds or torture people psycologically..


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389749 - 01/08/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Have you built a sanctuary? Like a happy place?


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #19389759 - 01/08/14 06:07 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Only psycologically...


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389787 - 01/08/14 06:11 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Really...? What was step one in becoming a shaman then?


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389826 - 01/08/14 06:18 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Can you answer scientific questions like, where is all the anti-matter?

Or how to achieve zero-point energy?


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #19389851 - 01/08/14 06:23 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

There is neither a start nor end as far as I am concerned...  you discover how screwed you are, then you watch an eternity as it gets worse, and you fix youself.. relativly speaking...  take a step away from what is not decided by yourself.. Then you find yourself.. in more ways than one.. then you find out your purpose..and you do this .. much of it, I think comes down to finding that place deep down yourself that ... i cannot put it to words... the God in you.. amighty and commanding.. and then ground yourself an be humble just the same...  it is no real order it needs to happen in really.. though I would estimate one comes from the bottom and goes upwards.. atleast where one thinks up to be..

teknix.. I have made my peace with both philosofical and scientific understanding.. It drove me mad it did.. the universe is soooo fucking weird.. and I can put it to words, what I am convinced of, but the words would do it justice..


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389978 - 01/08/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Well by that definition I too am a shaman...

How does that make you feel?


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #19389994 - 01/08/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

That, as most else, I remain indifferent to, and I will keep living my bliss.


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19389998 - 01/08/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

the shaman knows others as he knows himself
does that seem unreasonable?

if not, how do you know that you know yourself?

how do you know that you know others enough to be able to heal them?

do you deal with spirits?

what performs the healing you do?

which types of healing do you perform/when do you heal?

what is central to your daily practice?

when do you think one becomes a shaman / why did you become one?

just some questions :-)
I like shamanism, it is real to me

no need to know it all like you say, I know what I must know :-)


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #19390315 - 01/08/14 08:02 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

You aren't a shaman bud.

I had a complete psychotic break. Everyone likes to call themselves crazy or fucked in the head... Lmao. Once you have actually been there and watched the world of space-time relationships descend into a world of abstract ideas and thought enitities, tell me you were crazy before :lol:

I healed myself with cognitive behavioural therapy, meditation, prayer and lots of time outside.

Yet, I see no reason to call myself a shaman.

It would be just a bastardization of an authentic tradition. Take you want you want from a tradition or a paradigm but don't claim to be a part of something you aren't.  Modern man raped indigenous people's land and resources. Silenced their language. Marginalized their culture.

And now you, Icyus, are aiding in this terrible crime by turning all indigenous relgions into this bland new age 'shamanism' just like the film industry turning all American natives into the sterotypical 'plains indian' we saw in Western movies for the longest time.

Either go to a local native reserve and ask to speak to the elders about learning the secrets of healing and spirit communication or find some other label to call youreself.


Sorry I was so harsh but this shit is disgraceful ignorance and arrogance.


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Re: ask a shaman here: [Re: Icyus]
    #19390408 - 01/08/14 08:20 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Ok well since you said we could ask questions about healing wounds or harming people psychologically... I would want to know how to heal my neuroma on the bottom of my foot?

It's extremely debilitating, I can hardly walk. The shots do nothing and I'm not about to step up to the plate n get a surgery where 30% of the people end up with worse pain and a whopping 70 percent have either to get another, or have a years worth of relief.


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