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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #19388627 - 01/08/14 03:10 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

His book "Unweaving the Rainbow" , which is about how spectrum analysis has been the cornerstone of understanding the natural world, is fucking amazing.


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: koods]
    #19388647 - 01/08/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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Yes, Dawkins the greatest thinker of all time because because he pointed out how ridiculous a fuckin fairy tale is. The rest of his observations are either simple restatings of shit he played no part in discovering or books aimed at children.



His selfish gene theory is regarded as one of the great leaps in understanding Darwinian evolutionary biology.




What about it was a great leap forward?


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #19388687 - 01/08/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Previous concepts of natural selection focused on the fitness of individual organisms, where as the selfish gene theory says that the individual organism is not as important as the genome he/she carries. It's not about which species or organism can adapt/survive but the actual genetic code they carry.

From an amazon review. They say it better:
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Inheriting the mantle of revolutionary biologist from Darwin, Watson, and Crick, Richard Dawkins forced an enormous change in the way we see ourselves and the world with the publication of The Selfish Gene. Suppose, instead of thinking about organisms using genes to reproduce themselves, as we had since Mendel's work was rediscovered, we turn it around and imagine that "our" genes build and maintain us in order to make more genes. That simple reversal seems to answer many puzzlers which had stumped scientists for years, and we haven't thought of evolution in the same way since.




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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: Patlal]
    #19388718 - 01/08/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours





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The easy answer: Nobody becomes a parent before the age of 40.




... I think you forgot you said WITHOUT insane behaviors.


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: koods]
    #19388719 - 01/08/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Fascinating.


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: koods]
    #19388745 - 01/08/14 03:32 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I'm pretty sure the world is being run by a group of eugenicists who literally consider themselves a different species. And they view the rest of humanity as scum that need to be exterminated.


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: Aedan]
    #19388754 - 01/08/14 03:34 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Sounds good but would there be any long term effects of old people raising children instead of more active 2 year old parents?


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: beardedcrow]
    #19388801 - 01/08/14 03:43 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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Sounds good but would there be any long term effects of old people raising children instead of more active 2 year old parents?




Babies having babies.


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviors) [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #22461987 - 11/01/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Most people that argue for eugenics, miss a critical point; the endless *will* of man to succeed in the face of adversity.  Humans, when faced with real and incapacitating limitations, will tend to over develop compensating abilities, tricks and talents.  Say a man losses one arm, then inevitably the other arm will get stronger...better and more capable.  In the same manner, bad genes, diseases or intellectual shortcomings, will force into existence a broad range of compensatory mechanisms or "superpowers" that may easily outperform the "most fit" and healthy individuals.  Recall the movie GATACCA? Well it's the same, where the recognition of some level of inferiority fuels a burning desire to succeed against all odds, and by itself, the limitation becomes exactly the powerful catalytic motive to excel beyond natural limitations.  Therefore, at the scale of social strength, survival of the fittest society goes beyond having a diverse and genetically rich population, it should also keep and protect its sickest and weakest members, for among these and their mountain high challenges, there is fertile grounds for extremely powerful wills to develop.  There's very little you can do against people with terrible diseases or who have overcome many of their challenges with known severe limitations, if you're up against their will.  They just won't give up, they won't give in.  Their stories can't easily be erased from the larger picture, their stories have shaped and transformed civilizations and will continue to do so.  The nature of the human spirit sets this paradoxical truth; the weak are as necessary as the strong for the survival of human kind.


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviors) [Re: Eugenicssucks] * 1
    #22462021 - 11/01/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, you wrote a serious, thought-out response to a thread authored by Patlal.  :haha:


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Re: Eugenics: How to do it the right way (without mass murder and insane behaviours) [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22462204 - 11/01/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

practically sounds like a good idea but I would never be for the government telling people what they can do with their body.

I'm all for programs like c.r.a.c.k. that pay people $200 dollars to be sterilized. It's not government sanctioned and people do it by choice.


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