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MrBlueYoMind
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: cannabinated]
#19378983 - 01/06/14 07:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was at work once and asked a coworker if something was done, and I replied "Spectacular!" Another coworker burst "OMG! YOU JUST SAID SPECTACULAR RIGHT AS I READ THE WORD SPECTACULAR ON MY PHONE! CREEPY!"
I was sober at the moment but had been indulging in psychedelics quite frequently at the time.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: Kel]
#19378999 - 01/06/14 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kel said: That's something that me and a friend thought about while high once and we came up with the theory that there are mushrooms agents (actually working for weed, alcohol and acids too) invisible or disguised like regular people that make weird things happen when we are not sober. We laughed a lot that night, but since weird shit keeps happening we are slowly starting to take it for true and everytime something happens we say "see? that was a mushroom agent". Further research on the phenomena brought us to the conclusion that there's also a profound lesson to be learned every time they intervene. 
Don Juan would call them "allies" if such things did exist.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#19379073 - 01/06/14 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gorlax said: Yeah it seems like that a lot. I think its just normal occurrences being observed more in depth. My last trip which was "escaline" had some weird shit happen.. Pretty sure i saw a uFO hahaha
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MrBlueYoMind said: I was at work once and asked a coworker if something was done, and I replied "Spectacular!" Another coworker burst "OMG! YOU JUST SAID SPECTACULAR RIGHT AS I READ THE WORD SPECTACULAR ON MY PHONE! CREEPY!"
I was sober at the moment but had been indulging in psychedelics quite frequently at the time.
Things like this too me happen often, I'm not quite sure what to make of it.... I think psychs make me(/us) obsessive .
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: redgreenvines]
#19380067 - 01/06/14 11:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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redgreenvines said: I know it looks like the stoned persons are accessing a not yet occurred branch of the timeline, but this is not really synchronicity which is a complex mental integration of what was, is and might be.
Well, IME it's not just perception, though one's perception of it is enhanced by hallucinogens. Going back to Jung (who first described it based on a number of case histories) and referring to Wiki a bit after the intro, this says it well:
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Synchronistic events reveal an underlying pattern, a conceptual framework that encompasses, but is larger than, any of the systems that display the synchronicity. The suggestion of a larger framework is essential to satisfy the definition of synchronicity as originally developed by Carl Gustav Jung.[3]
This is in essence similar to what John Lily developed as ECCO (Earth Coincidence Coordination Office), something I've made ample use of over the years - this from The Dyadic Cyclone:
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"In ones life there can be peculiarly appropriate chains of related events that lead to consequences that are strongly desired. After such experiences, one wonders how such a series of events developed; sometimes there is a strong feeling that some intelligence (greater than ours) directed the course along certain lines which It/He/She was/is programming. Several years ago, I enunciated a format for such concatenations of events, somewhat
"There exists a Cosmic Control Center (C.C.C.) with a Galactic substation called Galactic Coincidence Control (G.C.C.). Within which is the Solar System Control Unit (S.S.C.U.), within which is the Earth Coincidence Control Office (E.C.C.O.). The assignments of responsibilities from the top to the bottom of this system of control is by a set of regulations, which translated by E.C.C.O. for humans is somewhat as follows:"
To all humans If you wish to control coincidences in your own life on the planet Earth, we will cooperate and determine those coincidences for you under the following conditions:
1) You must know/assume/simulate our existence in ECCO
2) You must be willing to accept our responsibility for control of your coincidences.
3) You must exert your best capabilities for your survival programs and your own development as an advancing/advanced member of ECCO's earthside corps of controlled coincidence workers. You are expected to use your best intelligence in this service
4) You are expected to expect the unexpected every minute, every hour of every day and of every night.
5) You must be able to maintain conscious/thinking/ reasoning no matter what events we arrange to happen to you. Some of these events will seem catachlysmic/catastrophic/overwhelming: remember stay aware, no matter what happens/apparently happens to you.
6) You are in our training program for life: there is no escape from it. We (not you ) control the long-term coincidences; you (not we) control the shorter-term coincidences by your own efforts.
7) Your major mission on earth is to discover/create that which we do to control the long-term coincidence patterns: you are being trained on Earth to do this job.
8) When your mission on planet Earth is completed, you will no longer be required to remain/return there.
9) Remember the motto passed to us (from GCC via SSCU): "Cosmic Love is absolutely Ruthless and Highly Indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."
Now that's kind of a long quote but it lays out a lot of the experience itself and is quite congruent with what people are reporting. Lily was starting to do Ketamine (he called it "Vitamin K") work in isolation tanks when I heard him talk about this in the mid-eighties, but he'd explored these realms both sober and with the aid of various psychedelics, much of it tank work, by then. 
I made my own thread last year about what I call The Travelers, there are similar stories there. 
None of this is simple at all, and it doesn't yield easily to attempts to understand it. Nevertheless it occurs and it can be utilized for personal progress if desired.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: AlienJesus]
#19380108 - 01/06/14 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had ate a relatively mild dose of mushrooms one night and I was laying on the couch as they started to come on, my cat was sitting on top/back of the couch gazing out the window across the room... nothing abnormal. So I closed my eyes and started concentrating/focusing on seeing what he was seeing through his eyes, with my eyes closed. All of a sudden he lets out a screech and jumps down on to my stomach and takes off leaving me with a deep bleeding scratch from his back claws.
Yeah, my previous cat had been around me tripping since he was a kitten and he was well used to this kind of mental contact and he grooved on it. My current cat came in during a decade I took off from it though and didn't get that exposure when he was young. I did it to him once sometime last winter and man he totally freaked, took a wild look at me, complained vigorously and ran away. Took him hours to settle down. Whatever it was (whatever it is) he didn't like it much and he made that plain. Like what you said... 
I suspect there's a reason why cats are often portrayed as witch's familiars. 
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19380889 - 01/07/14 04:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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redgreenvines said: I know it looks like the stoned persons are accessing a not yet occurred branch of the timeline, but this is not really synchronicity which is a complex mental integration of what was, is and might be.
Well, IME it's not just perception, though one's perception of it is enhanced by hallucinogens. Going back to Jung (who first described it based on a number of case histories) and referring to Wiki a bit after the intro, this says it well:
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Synchronistic events reveal an underlying pattern, a conceptual framework that encompasses, but is larger than, any of the systems that display the synchronicity. The suggestion of a larger framework is essential to satisfy the definition of synchronicity as originally developed by Carl Gustav Jung.[3]
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Agreed that a framework of greater dimension than the one in which the experience is taking place is involved, and it is more homogeneous than just perception: it is perception of layered experience (providing dimensions) PLUS projection of personal state of mind in a matrix of postures utterances and facial expressions, combined with feedback from that stream.
it makes the air bristle.
cats see it dogs see it and people entering the room can detect it (if they are sensitive) other stoners almost always can sense another one....
{a corollary of this phenomenon in action is that many stoned people become obsessed that others can tell they are stoned}
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lot_justice
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: redgreenvines]
#19380955 - 01/07/14 05:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guys, guys, guys, I've figured it out.
Reality is like a base mannnn. And Acid is an acid, with a higher ph level, and this like, causes a disturbance in the force.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: lot_justice]
#19381805 - 01/07/14 10:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Funny, I was thinking about this stuff recently...
The only things I can really remember are when I would take LSD and I'd try to get on my laptop to play some music. I'd open up Windows Media PLayer and it would freeze up on me. "Windows Media Player is not responding" and this would happen nearly every time I took LSD. If I was sober, it wouldn't happen...
One other thing that happened, a friend and I were coming down from 1.2~mg of 25i-NBOMe and we were conversing about the universe... I can't remember exactly what led up to this but I just remember my friend going "Just like a bird flying by" and he points up... and just as he says this a bird FLIES BY us. We both confirmed this because my friend goes "See?"
Haha! Fucking awesome.
I fuckin' miss that guy. My psychedelic brethren, my partner in crime, the only person who truly understands me to my core. Hopefully we will reunite soon...
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: BleakBeat]
#19382965 - 01/07/14 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the whole synchronicity phenomena is happening all the time, it's just that when you're on psychedelics, you notice it happen, it's no longer subconscious. And on psychs it's more blatant and in your face, as if something is trying to get your attention
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19383144 - 01/07/14 03:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had ate a relatively mild dose of mushrooms one night and I was laying on the couch as they started to come on, my cat was sitting on top/back of the couch gazing out the window across the room... nothing abnormal. So I closed my eyes and started concentrating/focusing on seeing what he was seeing through his eyes, with my eyes closed. All of a sudden he lets out a screech and jumps down on to my stomach and takes off leaving me with a deep bleeding scratch from his back claws.
Yeah, my previous cat had been around me tripping since he was a kitten and he was well used to this kind of mental contact and he grooved on it. My current cat came in during a decade I took off from it though and didn't get that exposure when he was young. I did it to him once sometime last winter and man he totally freaked, took a wild look at me, complained vigorously and ran away. Took him hours to settle down. Whatever it was (whatever it is) he didn't like it much and he made that plain. Like what you said... 
I suspect there's a reason why cats are often portrayed as witch's familiars. 
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I usually don't try to get in his head, usually when I was dosed he would just do things that he normally wouldn't get away with, climb on things etc. No rules when I'm tripping.
This morning our dog got loose and it's really cold, like 4 degrees out, snowy and icy here. I drove/slid around for nearly 2 hours looking for him while someone stayed here in case he came back. I eventually gave up, sat waiting for about 20 minutes. I was kind of sad and didn't want the little bastard to freeze to death but didn't know what else to do but wait and see if he came back. So I smoked a little pot and started doing this mental thing where I was like trying to connect with him and bring him back here. I don't even know if it was a mental thing or more of an electromagnetic thing, I was kind of visualizing pulling him back here... but anyways, probably just a coincidence, a few minutes later I hear some dogs barking up the street and here he comes, ice cubes on his snout hair and belly fur.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: AlienJesus]
#19383179 - 01/07/14 03:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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AlienJesus said: This morning our dog got loose and it's really cold, like 4 degrees out, snowy and icy here. I drove/slid around for nearly 2 hours looking for him while someone stayed here in case he came back. I eventually gave up, sat waiting for about 20 minutes. I was kind of sad and didn't want the little bastard to freeze to death but didn't know what else to do but wait and see if he came back. So I smoked a little pot and started doing this mental thing where I was like trying to connect with him and bring him back here. I don't even know if it was a mental thing or more of an electromagnetic thing, I was kind of visualizing pulling him back here... but anyways, probably just a coincidence, a few minutes later I hear some dogs barking up the street and here he comes, ice cubes on his snout hair and belly fur.
Stupid dogs, they always take off running in the opposite direction! Glad your dog is safe.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19383239 - 01/07/14 03:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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AlienJesus said: This morning our dog got loose and it's really cold, like 4 degrees out, snowy and icy here. I drove/slid around for nearly 2 hours looking for him while someone stayed here in case he came back. I eventually gave up, sat waiting for about 20 minutes. I was kind of sad and didn't want the little bastard to freeze to death but didn't know what else to do but wait and see if he came back. So I smoked a little pot and started doing this mental thing where I was like trying to connect with him and bring him back here. I don't even know if it was a mental thing or more of an electromagnetic thing, I was kind of visualizing pulling him back here... but anyways, probably just a coincidence, a few minutes later I hear some dogs barking up the street and here he comes, ice cubes on his snout hair and belly fur.
Stupid dogs, they always take off running in the opposite direction! Glad your dog is safe.
Thanks man, I'm glad he is too! Now he has to listen to me lecture him all day.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: BleakBeat]
#19385776 - 01/07/14 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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BleakBeat said: Funny, I was thinking about this stuff recently...
The only things I can really remember are when I would take LSD and I'd try to get on my laptop to play some music. I'd open up Windows Media PLayer and it would freeze up on me. "Windows Media Player is not responding" and this would happen nearly every time I took LSD. If I was sober, it wouldn't happen...
One other thing that happened, a friend and I were coming down from 1.2~mg of 25i-NBOMe and we were conversing about the universe... I can't remember exactly what led up to this but I just remember my friend going "Just like a bird flying by" and he points up... and just as he says this a bird FLIES BY us. We both confirmed this because my friend goes "See?"
Haha! Fucking awesome.
I fuckin' miss that guy. My psychedelic brethren, my partner in crime, the only person who truly understands me to my core. Hopefully we will reunite soon...
I can relate to these both. Frequently on acid I find electronics breaking down just as I feel like I am getting somewhere. I've thought a lot about it an what I think it is is that I am not usually in that clear minded acid head space and so I don't interact in the same way. The creative demands the acid puts on me means that I put more creative demands than usual on my technology, and I experience seemingly synchronistic failures at the moments when I just feel like I am really getting going. The "just feeling it.." sensation is in fact entering new reality for me and so I experience novel disruptions in my old familiar patterns.
Your second story is interesting.. let me share mine. looking up in sky once I began to realize that there was something collossal coming down into the clouds and looming into vision. My friend must have noticed because we look at each other at the same time and both say it " there's something behind the clouds!" We both saw some massive complex system approach us from in the sky, then disappear as our ability to maintain belief waned. To this day it is a big mystery to me. (friend if you recognize this story keep me anonymous please but drop a line in my inbox)
-------------------- Disclaimer: I write my thoughts quickly and focus on content not spelling. I could take the time to edit, but often isn't worth the time it would take. I'm not illiterate. Sorry for the typos.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: MrBlueYoMind] 1
#19385862 - 01/07/14 11:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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MrBlueYoMind said: I was at work once and asked a coworker if something was done, and I replied "Spectacular!" Another coworker burst "OMG! YOU JUST SAID SPECTACULAR RIGHT AS I READ THE WORD SPECTACULAR ON MY PHONE! CREEPY!"
I was sober at the moment but had been indulging in psychedelics quite frequently at the time.
i was cleaning out my closet a year ago, and the simpsons was on in the background. i pulled out an old piece of art and for some reason felt compelled to look at the title, "almost there." RIGHT AS I READ THESE WORDS homer says, "almost there! almost there!" it was bizarre. i really do not believe in coincidence. i was sober, and i've had other strange things occur in my lifetime, sober or not
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: stellarshnap]
#19385902 - 01/07/14 11:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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stellarshnap said: I think the whole synchronicity phenomena is happening all the time, it's just that when you're on psychedelics, you notice it happen, it's no longer subconscious. And on psychs it's more blatant and in your face, as if something is trying to get your attention 
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: crispy86]
#19386332 - 01/08/14 02:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk if this qualifies as that weird, the first time I dropped L, it was very weak but interesting, mid peak, there's knockin at the door, Mormons or Jahovas, my mind was a little open so I felt friendly, spoke with them a little explained im simply agnostic, they gave me, oh but there is an answer bullshit a trippy-ish picture... Pretty odd happenin 4 my first time.
I wonder if anyone on the shroomery ever experienced an intense earthquake while during an intense trip....
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: Deemstar]
#19386641 - 01/08/14 06:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deemstar said: Idk if this qualifies as that weird, the first time I dropped L, it was very weak but interesting, mid peak, there's knockin at the door, Mormons or Jahovas, my mind was a little open so I felt friendly, spoke with them a little explained im simply agnostic, they gave me, oh but there is an answer bullshit a trippy-ish picture... Pretty odd happenin 4 my first time.
I wonder if anyone on the shroomery ever experienced an intense earthquake while during an intense trip....
Not an earthquake, but I did some acid one night and a girl I know called me and told me to "take cover" that there was a tornado headed right at the little town I lived in. (She knows I never pay attention to television/radio.) I'm like hell, this house is built well and has been here for 130 years, I'm not running for the basement. So instead I go upstairs, put a blanket on the floor, turn off all the lights so the room was almost total darkness. You could feel the wind shaking the entire house and hear it creaking. I smoked a one hit of salvia divinorum extract and off to Oz I went. When I came back everything was fine.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: AlienJesus]
#19386747 - 01/08/14 07:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deemstar said: Idk if this qualifies as that weird, the first time I dropped L, it was very weak but interesting, mid peak, there's knockin at the door, Mormons or Jahovas, my mind was a little open so I felt friendly, spoke with them a little explained im simply agnostic, they gave me, oh but there is an answer bullshit a trippy-ish picture... Pretty odd happenin 4 my first time.
I wonder if anyone on the shroomery ever experienced an intense earthquake while during an intense trip....
Not an earthquake, but I did some acid one night and a girl I know called me and told me to "take cover" that there was a tornado headed right at the little town I lived in. (She knows I never pay attention to television/radio.) I'm like hell, this house is built well and has been here for 130 years, I'm not running for the basement. So instead I go upstairs, put a blanket on the floor, turn off all the lights so the room was almost total darkness. You could feel the wind shaking the entire house and hear it creaking. I smoked a one hit of salvia divinorum extract and off to Oz I went. When I came back everything was fine.
That's a brave route to go
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: AlienJesus]
#19386751 - 01/08/14 07:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oz, lol. Only a tripper would think of doing that.
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Re: Why does weird stuff happen on acid? [Re: Kel]
#19387501 - 01/08/14 11:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kel said: That's something that me and a friend thought about while high once and we came up with the theory that there are mushrooms agents (actually working for weed, alcohol and acids too) invisible or disguised like regular people that make weird things happen when we are not sober. We laughed a lot that night, but since weird shit keeps happening we are slowly starting to take it for true and everytime something happens we say "see? that was a mushroom agent". Further research on the phenomena brought us to the conclusion that there's also a profound lesson to be learned every time they intervene. 
Now that you said that I am totally going to think that next time it happens LOL. Now that I think about it there have been just fucked up people I have met while tripping for whom being an LSD agent actually makes more sense. Like when I asked a stranger what time it was and his answer "what is time, really?" That guy is clearly just walking around looking for trippers so can pose existential questions to them. I have been wanting to read Lilly's the Scientist for years. I had a weird K experience where the dollar bill I was using to snort it disappeared and then re appeared in front of my buddy and I. We chalked it up to a glitch in the Matrix my current favourite explanation http://www.reddit.com/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/
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