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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19380322 - 01/07/14 12:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I sure hope we can keep our noses out of this and let them govern themselves.




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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #19380342 - 01/07/14 12:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DebuteMachine said:
can we just kill them for real and stop fucking around.




Turn everything from the Mediterranian East to Pakistan into glass. Including Israel, those fuckers start more shit than we are told.




I couldn't really fucking care less about Israel either. Israel and some other country bomb the shit out of each other, then Israel cries "defence." Solve the problem then? Here we go:

turn the entire fucking place into glass, don't let any of those countries fire one more bullet.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: imachavel]
    #19380995 - 01/07/14 05:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The Middle East is still a violent shithole. This is news?


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Quawonk]
    #19383927 - 01/07/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think there's evidence that the Jews in Israel worked with the nazis, just that the idea of sending Jews to Israel was proposed.  Of course that doesn't mean it didn't happen, but things like that are often misrepresented for arguments like this.

I think the Vatican created Islam to control the Arab world.  It's an old theory, highly controversial, but it makes sense to me.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: elax420]
    #19383972 - 01/07/14 05:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
Oh god maybe the palestinians should fight like men?!


Thats real cute coming from a supporter of the state of Isreal. Which would never fucking exist if it weren’t for imperialistic back room deals and Expat support.




Every single border in the mid east was drawn by conquerors.  Do you know what the word imperialist means?  It refers to Empire.  The last Empire in the Middle East was the Byzantine Empire.  Do you know what a caliphate is?  It is an empire.  Why it is such an anathema to you that the Israelites, who have inhabited the region for millennia, should not get a tiny sliver of their homeland, one unique in its lack of natural resources?
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The Saudis were major religious zealots and they fed off of the inefficiency of the ottoman state. If you understood the history of the place you would understand what is happening now. The ottomans were non arab foreign rulers that put in their own elite to control native populations. The Ottomans lost the reverence and legitimacy they once had in the eyes of the Arabs when the Wahabbis and Saudis teamed up and took the Hijaz. I forgot what they actually call it but the sultan essentially lost the “keys to the city(ies)”
And then thats when the British and French started getting heavily involved




The British and the French got involved when the Ottoman Empire backed the losing side in WW1
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Since your so apt at using google go on and tell everybody else the importance of the Hijaz to Islam.


This sure looks like a festering shit hole to me


and so does this






All paid for by the West


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19384200 - 01/07/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You are so fucking naive about this why do you keep spewing inaccurate nonsense? Read a book bro.


You don’t have to have empire in your name to be a fucking empire, btw it is called the ottoman empire. About the Isreali jews, how can you call a land they never inhabited “their home” what because they are fucking jewish that is their birthright? oh i was born christian lets take back the holy land its my birthright. I know you are a little slow but Jerusalem is a holy city for islam as well. in fact this is one of the greatest trolls ever


See that big ass golden dome in full view for all the jews :lol:



Now we are getting back into that circular argument where you pretend like there is no such thing as hegemony and imperialism.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: elax420]
    #19384298 - 01/07/14 06:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
You are so fucking naive about this why do you keep spewing inaccurate nonsense? Read a book bro.




:picard:
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You don’t have to have empire in your name to be a fucking empire, btw it is called the ottoman empire. About the Isreali jews, how can you call a land they never inhabited “their home” what because they are fucking jewish that is their birthright? oh i was born christian lets take back the holy land its my birthright. I know you are a little slow but Jerusalem is a holy city for islam as well. in fact this is one of the greatest trolls ever




Are you arguing that there were no Jews in Israel?  They were given a tiny shitty sliver of their homeland.  A tiny shitty sliver.  Surrounded by murderous monsters who hated them, vastly outnumbered.  And they persevered.  T keep the tiny shitty sliver.  And this bothers you, Helmut?
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See that big ass golden dome in full view for all the jews :lol:




So?  What are you, 12?
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Now we are getting back into that circular argument where you pretend like there is no such thing as hegemony and imperialism.




Of course there is hegemony and imperialism.  Here are two nations that do not practice it

US
Israel


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19384675 - 01/07/14 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol yeah they do not practice terrorism either.  Those countries have the benefit of saying how it is because their actions come out of the ultimate truth of patriotism.

All states are inherently imperialistic.  That is why government and socialism will never work.  Governments need to be enforced, working together needs to come out of natural desire for cooperation.  Anything tacked on which gives individuals or groups advantages is a government forcing itself upon the people, aka imperialism.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19384708 - 01/07/14 07:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If all states are imperialist then the word has no meaning.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19384764 - 01/07/14 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah you could say that, but I'd say its mor like there are many meanings, and endless degrees to each of those meanings.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #19385886 - 01/07/14 11:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They were given a tiny shitty sliver of their homeland.  A tiny shitty sliver.  Surrounded by murderous monsters who hated them, vastly outnumbered.  And they persevered.  T keep the tiny shitty sliver.  And this bothers you,




Irony at it fucking best :lolsy:





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Of course there is hegemony and imperialism.  Here are two nations that do not practice it

US
Israel




Wait i may have spoken too soon.


Nice try shillenstein


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19385912 - 01/07/14 11:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Of course there is hegemony and imperialism.  Here are two nations that do not practice it

US
Israel




uhhhhhh

i dont even.....

what???

dude....


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: k00laid]
    #19385958 - 01/07/14 11:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dude is trying to skew history to fit his shitty agenda.

Been doing it all thread/entire posting history, this is new to you?


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Quawonk] * 4
    #19385972 - 01/08/14 12:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The Middle East is still a violent shithole. This is news?





so are most of the large cities in the US, let's turn them into glass


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: elax420]
    #19386616 - 01/08/14 06:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You know what happens to all that Palestinian land? THEY LOST THE WARS. Now Palestine has devolved to a rabble of terrorist thugs, and soon they will be dealt with, and the Muslim nations can return to the yoke it is so comfortable with. Since were on the topic of old shit, how about most of the sand people getting in bed with the Nazis? I'm very sure the Israelites are still pissed with that.

the Israeli experience can be sumed up in two words.

never again.

don't.poke.the bear


Edited by myc_check1212 (01/08/14 06:15 AM)


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: k00laid]
    #19386646 - 01/08/14 06:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Of course there is hegemony and imperialism.  Here are two nations that do not practice it

US
Israel




:rofl2:


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19387154 - 01/08/14 09:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You know what happens to all that Palestinian land? THEY LOST THE WARS. Now Palestine has devolved to a rabble of terrorist thugs, and soon they will be dealt with, and the Muslim nations can return to the yoke it is so comfortable with. Since were on the topic of old shit, how about most of the sand people getting in bed with the Nazis? I'm very sure the Israelites are still pissed with that.

the Israeli experience can be sumed up in two words.

never again.

don't.poke.the bear






Fuck the isrealis, entitled fucks.

Dont poke the bear is a reference to russia derrrrp


It will happen again :lol:


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: elax420] * 3
    #19387172 - 01/08/14 10:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



i bet this thread is a clusterfuck


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: elax420]
    #19387184 - 01/08/14 10:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It was a sopranos reference to a country/people I don't want to scrap with.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #19387240 - 01/08/14 10:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

actually, you'd be surprised--reasoned heads prevailed, and an intelligent discussion was had--opinions were reevaluated--and some folks even made retractions of previous statements, conceding persuasive arguments on the side of their opponents--definitely worth the read



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