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Shpongle1



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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: crispy86]
#19385343 - 01/07/14 09:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I too am terrified of salvia but I don't really know why... The trip just seemed to be so filled with anxiety even though nothing really scary was happening. I was in another world, floating in an ocean made of letters and words... Finally I got caught up in a wave and had that feeling you get when a big wave is taking you. I fought it was able to break free from the pull of the wave and all of the words broke apart as they hit against my body and shattered into legos falling to both sides of me.
Thinking back to it, I remember it clearly and it it sounds pretty awesome. But something about it at the time was scary as fuck.
On the other hand, in my so far limited experience with DMT, it seems to put me in such a peacefully relaxed state. Comfortable and soothing, like a mother's touch. Those with more experience my comment that I haven't reached hyperspace and all of that may change at that point, which is true. But so far it seems infinitely kinder than salvia.
-------------------- There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined. Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens.
- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.
Edited by Shpongle1 (01/07/14 10:06 PM)
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Jvells
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#19385372 - 01/07/14 09:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When you read about people taking benadryl to hallucinate they ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS report similar things like smoking phantom cigs, seeing spiders, moths, insects, talking to people, etc. so we can assume whatever receptors benadryl is triggering gives off similar hallucinations all the time. Compare this to dmt, maybe it does the same as other psychedelics but by using the 5ht receptor sometimes commonly creates machine elves and eyes. 
Then there's the thought that because these both are brought up so much they're what's expected during the experience.
PS: I'm more playing around than being serious lol, I understand they're both completely different classes of drugs but it's the first thing that came to mind and I thought it was interestingish
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#19385497 - 01/07/14 10:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: salvia is one of the only psychs im afraid of. not of the content, but of that spikey bodily feeling it gives.
worst feeling ever. i am a well-seasoned psychonaut, and i won't dare touch salvia. did it 3 times when i was younger...never again
The bodyload on Salvia FEELS terribly unsafe. Although I know the drug is harmless, the shit it puts your mind through is hell as far as physical effects.
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: ModestMouse]
#19385535 - 01/07/14 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya the "body high" is EXTREMELY frightening. i have heard a couple people mention on this thread a "spikey" or "prickly" feeling on the body, or as if being "hit by a wave"...i recall experiencing the sensation of having two walls close in on me from each side...and feeling like i was getting sucked into the earth's core...just a strong/strange sense of gravity and/or movement under the skin...
not to mention the whole experience is just extremely disorienting. total day dream. i find it to be the most unpredictable and frightening of psychedelics, even though, it is safe to use physically speaking.
Edited by crispy86 (01/07/14 10:26 PM)
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Aopocetx
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: ModestMouse]
#19386671 - 01/08/14 06:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ModestMouse said:
The bodyload on Salvia FEELS terribly unsafe. Although I know the drug is harmless, the shit it puts your mind through is hell as far as physical effects.
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Since we're talking about this I have a question. I have broke through on salvia one time. However the prickly feeling made me never want to do it again. I still haven't smoked DMT but hopefully soon. I assume it causes no such effects?
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Shpongle1



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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: Aopocetx]
#19386950 - 01/08/14 08:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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DMT for me makes my body feel extremely relaxed, comfortable and sedated. It sort of reminds me of smoking some strong indica, that sort of comfortable "couch lock" feeling you get. I'm sure it can change from person to person depending on the particular experience, but so far for me this is how it has been.
-------------------- There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined. Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens.
- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.
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Aopocetx
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: Shpongle1]
#19387271 - 01/08/14 10:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shpongle1 said: DMT for me makes my body feel extremely relaxed, comfortable and sedated. It sort of reminds me of smoking some strong indica, that sort of comfortable "couch lock" feeling you get. I'm sure it can change from person to person depending on the particular experience, but so far for me this is how it has been.
Ok good that puts me at ease. I can't stand the body high from salvia. Thanks.
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: Aopocetx]
#19388171 - 01/08/14 01:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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the body high for me on spice was incredible. as if you're getting hit by a truck of pure bodily sedation and pleasure. it's powerful
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: Jesus Christ]
#19388636 - 01/08/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i always thought the machine elfs was just his way of describing something he didnt fully understand i didnt think he actually ment he saw mechanical little green elves but just about every one i know says they saw the machine elfs now after reading his shit.
i have never seen anything resembling elfs or machines ( with the exception of a wierd organic city made of living building and machinery made of living organisms instead of metals but this was on mushrooms)
i have only seen people made of ligth completely glowing, alot of women some mother like other down rigth slutty ( my last time i saw a shadow of a crowd of people underneath a bulls head who watched me and turned into a greenish naked woman with red hair moving slowly grabbing her breasts) women without faces representing my mother, people who where sitting around me while i was tripping where seen standing around me with eyes closed, mayans, the fanta girls ( or something like that) and old man, a bald man with eyeballs everywhere, another human stuck in dmt world scared of me, the devil and his 2 sons ( was actually just a bush), a triangular faced demon, more indians, glowing skulls, a giant pyramid baby being built, wolf eyes, shady dmt beings who seemed like shady drug dealers, my wife in a red dress, and che guevara ( also saw him on mushrooms dont know why)
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Re: Why Machine Elves? DMT Discussion [Re: Jesus Christ]
#19755144 - 03/27/14 11:58 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jesus Christ said: damn i really want to do salvia again but it's getting hard to source both on the clearnet and darknet, especially being in a state where it aint exactly legal
That sucks dude, here I can Jst buy it a a cornerstore...
I did to know it was Illeagle.
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Edited by Lucid Toast (03/27/14 11:59 AM)
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