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Magenta
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Buying acid?
#19386618 - 01/08/14 06:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello. I consider my self pretty new to illegal drugs. I've done a few, but when it comes to the logistics behind them, i'm a total noob. I live in Australia, and this year will be participating in the rainbow serpent festival. I hope to be hooked up with some acid/lsd. I have two questions.
#1, Is lsd and acid the same thing? I was under the impression it was, but a big weed head i know whom apparently has lots of experience with different drugs, (and there for lots of knowledge on said topic apparently) claims acid and lsd are different. He's been wrong quite a few times before, so i'd appreciate conformation, because i trust this community.
#2 I have never done acid/lsd before. I have done shrooms, (low to medium doses). What i am concerned about is buying something claimed to be acid/lsd when it is actually something else. Is this a valid concern? Do people sell stuff that will harm me, that appears to be acid/lsd but isn't? if so, is there a way i can identify it to be true acid/lsd?
Thank you.
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forrest_dweller
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta] 1
#19386635 - 01/08/14 06:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha ur mate is a fuck head. acid and lsd are the same thing, acid is slang term for it
and yeah in aus you will get fucked around with all 2ci research chemical crap. chek this site out and have a look just incase u come across any of them http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/655920-LSD-Info-Request-What-s-going-around-Love-Potion-9
also if your blotter has no taste or numbing feeling that means its a pretty good sign its acid
Edited by forrest_dweller (01/08/14 06:30 AM)
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Aopocetx
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta]
#19386645 - 01/08/14 06:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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knightron said: #2 I have never done acid/lsd before. I have done shrooms, (low to medium doses). What i am concerned about is buying something claimed to be acid/lsd when it is actually something else. Is this a valid concern? Do people sell stuff that will harm me, that appears to be acid/lsd but isn't? if so, is there a way i can identify it to be true acid/lsd?
Thank you.
Someone might try to sell you research chemicals as acid. However, just know it won't HARM you per say, you'll just have a different trip. The way to tell (most of the time) is that acid has no taste, or very very little. Also be careful of thick blotters. The fact that they're thick usually means they have to be for that specific substance to fit; so it could be DOB in 1.5mg, for example. So look for thin tabs with barely or no taste and no smell. Good luck bro. Also if it numbs your tongue, it's not acid. But you will still trip. I invite you to be open to the possibility of tripping on a different substance, such as 25i-nbome. But hopefully you get lucky and get LSD.
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta]
#19386688 - 01/08/14 06:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is this a valid concern? Do people sell stuff that will harm me, that appears to be acid/lsd but isn't? if so, is there a way i can identify it to be true acid/lsd?
many people tell you its LSD but in reality its some research chemical. There are plenty different compounds out there that have "similar" to acid effects. Research chemicals can be dangerous because you can OVERDOSE thinking its lsd.. some deaths are confirmed already due to this rc shit! You have to test it with something like EC-test or ehrlich
Also if you thinking of getting it online thats dangerous. You end up scammed for the most time.
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EastBayRay

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Re: Buying acid? [Re: rikuni]
#19386706 - 01/08/14 07:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rikuni said:
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Is this a valid concern? Do people sell stuff that will harm me, that appears to be acid/lsd but isn't? if so, is there a way i can identify it to be true acid/lsd?
You have to test it with something like EC-test or ehrlich
Even with ehrlich or marquis you don't know if you have real L. There are a number of research chemicals which will show a false positive. In short, unless you know the chemist or someone that does, there is no way to know if you have real L or not. It's the wild wild west. Thank drug prohibition for this dilemma.
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Into The Woods
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta]
#19386734 - 01/08/14 07:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't know you lived here in Australia, man. 
Acid is LSD. Lysergic acid diethylamide. Your friend is a twit.
And yes there many research chemicals that are put onto blotter and sold off as real acid, when they are in fact a completely different drug, and some are indeed potentially harmful. Many are bitter and may numb your tongue.
You'll want to buy a test kit.
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Into The Woods said: I didn't know you lived here in Australia, man. 
Acid is LSD. Lysergic acid diethylamide. Your friend is a twit.
And yes there many research chemicals that are put onto blotter and sold off as real acid, when they are in fact a completely different drug, and some are indeed potentially harmful. Many are bitter and may numb your tongue.
You'll want to buy a test kit.

Yes, definitely a twit!
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Magenta
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This is pretty scary. I actually wasn't expecting there to be pseudo-lsd. Thanks for replying everyone, much appreciated. The fest is in only two weeks.
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forrest_dweller said: haha ur mate is a fuck head. acid and lsd are the same thing, acid is slang term for it
and yeah in aus you will get fucked around with all 2ci research chemical crap. chek this site out and have a look just incase u come across any of them http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/655920-LSD-Info-Request-What-s-going-around-Love-Potion-9
also if your blotter has no taste or numbing feeling that means its a pretty good sign its acid
Thanks for the info and link. Is there any way to know without tasting it first? Gotta ask since once you tast it, you'v kinda fallen down the rabbit hole already right?
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knightron said: #2 I have never done acid/lsd before. I have done shrooms, (low to medium doses). What i am concerned about is buying something claimed to be acid/lsd when it is actually something else. Is this a valid concern? Do people sell stuff that will harm me, that appears to be acid/lsd but isn't? if so, is there a way i can identify it to be true acid/lsd?
Thank you.
Someone might try to sell you research chemicals as acid. However, just know it won't HARM you per say, you'll just have a different trip.
Hey that's really cool to know, thanks. To be honest i'm open to trying many drugs, but i'm concerned on it's affect on my body/brain, and it's addictiveness. I'm one of those people whom even read the ingredients on canned food ect. If it's harmless, it relieves my concerns a little, but ideally i would prefer to know what i'm taking. This is why i'm not into the drug scene a real lot, greed taints the honesty of the people with their products.
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Aopocetx said: But hopefully you get lucky and get LSD.
Is LSD better than the alternatives advertised as LSD?
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rikuni said:
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Is this a valid concern? Do people sell stuff that will harm me, that appears to be acid/lsd but isn't? if so, is there a way i can identify it to be true acid/lsd?
many people tell you its LSD but in reality its some research chemical. There are plenty different compounds out there that have "similar" to acid effects. Research chemicals can be dangerous because you can OVERDOSE thinking its lsd.. some deaths are confirmed already due to this rc shit! You have to test it with something like EC-test or ehrlich
Also if you thinking of getting it online thats dangerous. You end up scammed for the most time.
Thanks, i won't be buying anything online, just hoping someone will have some at the fest. Purely hopeful, i've never been before, but am really keen. Can't wait, i even bought some baggy extremely comfortable 'hippy' pants off ebay for the occasion. They kind of look like a dress, but in my opinion their comfort makes up for it.
I hope to god i won't over dose. I've never done a high dose of shrooms before, let alone acid or one of it's look alikes. I would asume one tab would be fine? Some please advise if that's a good dose or not? The highest dose i've done of shrooms is level 3, with minimal hallucinations, but lots of mind fucks. I might add, at that dose i hated the mind fucks. Totally screwed me up at the time, (and a fare few weed induced experienced afterwards). I think i may be able to beat the mind fucks next time though, (after my last session) but i can't say that definitely, knowing what psychedelics are like. In my experience, if i don't do weed at the same time, things go nicely.
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Into The Woods said: You'll want to buy a test kit.
What kind? I'm pretty new to this stuff. (actually it's pretty crazy. Because i a attempt to educate my self on this stuff before hand, some people i know think i know heaps about drugs. It's so weird. They're like, is ketamine good stuff, and i'm like, 'fucked if i know.')
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta]
#19386816 - 01/08/14 08:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Buy an Ehrlich reagent.
Also, a rule of thumb is "if it's bitter, it's a spitter."
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KingKnowledge
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LSD is the chemical, bro. You don't wanna be fucking with RC's like 2cb or 25x before you try the real deal.
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta]
#19386864 - 01/08/14 08:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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knightron said: This is pretty scary. I actually wasn't expecting there to be pseudo-lsd. Thanks for replying everyone, much appreciated. The fest is in only two weeks.
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forrest_dweller said: haha ur mate is a fuck head. acid and lsd are the same thing, acid is slang term for it
and yeah in aus you will get fucked around with all 2ci research chemical crap. chek this site out and have a look just incase u come across any of them http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/655920-LSD-Info-Request-What-s-going-around-Love-Potion-9
also if your blotter has no taste or numbing feeling that means its a pretty good sign its acid
Thanks for the info and link. Is there any way to know without tasting it first? Gotta ask since once you tast it, you'v kinda fallen down the rabbit hole already right?
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Aopocetx said:
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knightron said: #2 I have never done acid/lsd before. I have done shrooms, (low to medium doses). What i am concerned about is buying something claimed to be acid/lsd when it is actually something else. Is this a valid concern? Do people sell stuff that will harm me, that appears to be acid/lsd but isn't? if so, is there a way i can identify it to be true acid/lsd?
Thank you.
Someone might try to sell you research chemicals as acid. However, just know it won't HARM you per say, you'll just have a different trip.
Hey that's really cool to know, thanks. To be honest i'm open to trying many drugs, but i'm concerned on it's affect on my body/brain, and it's addictiveness. I'm one of those people whom even read the ingredients on canned food ect. If it's harmless, it relieves my concerns a little, but ideally i would prefer to know what i'm taking. This is why i'm not into the drug scene a real lot, greed taints the honesty of the people with their products.
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Aopocetx said: But hopefully you get lucky and get LSD.
Is LSD better than the alternatives advertised as LSD?
Thanks, i won't be buying anything online, just hoping someone will have some at the fest. Purely hopeful, i've never been before, but am really keen. Can't wait, i even bought some baggy extremely comfortable 'hippy' pants off ebay for the occasion. They kind of look like a dress, but in my opinion their comfort makes up for it.
I hope to god i won't over dose. I've never done a high dose of shrooms before, let alone acid or one of it's look alikes. I would asume one tab would be fine? Some please advise if that's a good dose or not? The highest dose i've done of shrooms is level 3, with minimal hallucinations, but lots of mind fucks. I might add, at that dose i hated the mind fucks. Totally screwed me up at the time, (and a fare few weed induced experienced afterwards). I think i may be able to beat the mind fucks next time though, (after my last session) but i can't say that definitely, knowing what psychedelics are like. In my experience, if i don't do weed at the same time, things go nicely.
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Into The Woods said: You'll want to buy a test kit.
What kind? I'm pretty new to this stuff. (actually it's pretty crazy. Because i a attempt to educate my self on this stuff before hand, some people i know think i know heaps about drugs. It's so weird. They're like, is ketamine good stuff, and i'm like, 'fucked if i know.')
Don't worry about addictiveness. Psychedelics aren't addictive. So even if you get something other than LSD I promise you won't get cravings or anything. You might want to do it again but it's like enjoying a rollercoaster and wanting to go back.
And yes you will be fine with one hit. Even if it's something else, one hit will not harm you. It will range anywhere from pretty mild to strong. Just depends.
You asked if LSD is better. Well that's purely subjective. I would say I prefer it and most people do too, but if you get a different chemical it's STILL gonna be a psychedelic trip. The effects are different but overall they're all similar. Go on Erowid and look up the effects of DOB and 25i-nbome. It should give you an idea of what you can expect if it's NOT acid.
I said this before but I'll say it again. If by chance you do get an RC, try to enjoy it anyway instead of freaking out because you didn't want that specific chemical. You'll still be tripping and it should give you a good introduction to psychedelics other than shrooms.
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Into The Woods
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta]
#19386870 - 01/08/14 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ehrlich reagent tests.
http://spycity.com.au/eztest-ehrlich.aspx
You could order from the bunk police store, but their international shipping rates are ridiculous (almost $100).
http://www.bunkpolice.org/
I did happen to find this, though:
http://www.fishpond.com.au/Health/Bunk-Police-Drug-Test-Kit-Indoles-Ehrlich-Reagent/0720825778655
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Into The Woods
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: Magenta]
#19387017 - 01/08/14 09:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tell me about this "rainbow serpent festival".
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I am not from your country but I do pay attention to the worldwide market in LSD. After bear died LSD seems to have went to shit in oz. I hear people there paying insane prices and the amount of deception is very high. Be careful.
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: my3rdeye]
#19387337 - 01/08/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Once you get your hits post them up to see if anyone can ID them from the blotter paper -it's a long shot but worth doing.
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Into The Woods
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Re: Buying acid? [Re: my3rdeye]
#19387412 - 01/08/14 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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my3rdeye said: I am not from your country but I do pay attention to the worldwide market in LSD. After bear died LSD seems to have went to shit in oz. I hear people there paying insane prices and the amount of deception is very high. Be careful.
This is true.
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KingKnowledge said: LSD is the chemical, bro. You don't wanna be fucking with RC's like 2cb or 25x before you try the real deal.
Nothing can replace real LSD, IME.
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get a test kit its a very real concern and dont ever take advice from your friend especially about drugs
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Deathcore
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lsd is acid
rcs can be dangerous...
only take 1 hit to tes for numbness/bittnerness
it takes 30/60 mins to kick in so its not like if you put a hit in ur mouth your doomed.. if you spit it out if its bitter it won't do anything..its like it never happened...
but id suggest buying what you can and taking only one hit and saving the rest....just to have stocked up..
i like drug collecting.
good luck...
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Magenta
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biscoHead said: a rule of thumb is "if it's bitter, it's a spitter."
Cheers 
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KingKnowledge said: LSD is the chemical, bro. You don't wanna be fucking with RC's like 2cb or 25x before you try the real deal.
Damn, after what others said, i'm hoping i can get the real stuff.
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Aopocetx said: I said this before but I'll say it again. If by chance you do get an RC, try to enjoy it anyway instead of freaking out because you didn't want that specific chemical. You'll still be tripping and it should give you a good introduction to psychedelics other than shrooms.
Sounds sweet. I will take that on board.
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Into The Woods said: Ehrlich reagent tests.
http://spycity.com.au/eztest-ehrlich.aspx
You could order from the bunk police store, but their international shipping rates are ridiculous (almost $100).
http://www.bunkpolice.org/
I did happen to find this, though:
http://www.fishpond.com.au/Health/Bunk-Police-Drug-Test-Kit-Indoles-Ehrlich-Reagent/0720825778655
Hey thanks for the links; appreciate it. The Rainbow Serpent Fest is held in Vic. Here's the link to their website. Official-website Facebook-page
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Deathcore said: it takes 30/60 mins to kick in so its not like if you put a hit in ur mouth your doomed.. if you spit it out if its bitter it won't do anything..its like it never happened...
Thanks that is something i didn't know. I thought that it dissolved on your tongue in a matter of seconds and the affects were almost instant.
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Deathcore said: but id suggest buying what you can and taking only one hit and saving the rest....just to have stocked up..
Dats the plan 
Thanks heaps for the info guys. I'll look into these Ehrlich reagent tests.
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