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5cruffyMuff
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what my view on self conscious
#19386307 - 01/08/14 02:03 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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so after a 9 gram does of mushrooms i began to have thoughts leading to concussions awareness . who am i other then the physical. i mean yea where thought about consciousnesses. mind you i don't lose sleep over this but i my self believe that our consciousness is not in our body. i had mental images of the real ME in another dimension connected to my physical.through radio frequencies or something else that can connect me to body this gave me goose bumps. then today i found a video on youtube that username KilluminatiTheMovie movie tittle Ancient Knowledge Pt.1 Consciousness, Sacred Geometry. supports that are Consciousness is not in are body.which lead me to run over to shroomery and see what others have come up with with out influences from literature or videos but self awakening experiences. like i said im not gonna lose sleep about this or think about it over and over. i just wanna know what others think about it. you cant go into a room with light and take away its light. but you can go to darkness and bring light. there is no way of knowing who is right or wrong so no arguments. please. anyone have any input ? and that was my Psychedelic Experience
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: 5cruffyMuff]
#19386609 - 01/08/14 06:07 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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This is very interesting. I'm tuned in to hear what others say. Although I haven't had an experience like that myself.
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Aopocetx]
#19386628 - 01/08/14 06:20 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I belive that a persons conscious is not connected to their body, but in fact connected to a greater consciousness that connects us all. Our bodies are just a way to focus a minute piece of the 'greater consciousness'. I do stay awake thinking about this some times, but i wouldn't take what i say for granted. I'm still skeptical my self, and i suffer psychotic anxiety attacks occasionally too.
I am a deep thinker though, and while some people brush of what i have to say, usually no one proves my 'absurd' theories wrong.
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Magenta]
#19386653 - 01/08/14 06:32 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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You know, I've gotten a similar feeling where we're just parts of a bigger consciousness so I know what you're trying to say. Well actually, I felt like everyone's consciousness is connected to a sort of databank through their subconscious, and the way we act as a whole is because of this. So either I misinterpreted it or you did. I did feel, however, that this 'databank' can send us information that helps determine how we act.
Edit: but because what I felt wasn't exactly what you're talking about, I'll leave the conversation if you want me to.
Edited by Aopocetx (01/08/14 06:33 AM)
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Aopocetx]
#19386878 - 01/08/14 08:25 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Wow, sounds like you and i have eperienced the exact same feeling. For now though, i'm going to bed, don't leave the conversation on my behalf. I'll be interested to read what's new when i wake up. Night.
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Magenta]
#19387328 - 01/08/14 10:37 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Then you have to weigh in the possibility that consciousness itself is not variable.
We could possibly all be the SAME conscious intuition just separated in this reality as different awareness.
Look at it like Television, Just because the TV set breaks does not mean the signal is broken.
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Agentchewy]
#19387423 - 01/08/14 10:58 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Agentchewy said:
Look at it like Television, Just because the TV set breaks does not mean the signal is broken.
I like that.
On my last trip, I felt that every being is connected to something greater, that's why we all have a purpose. During the trip this was so clear, clear enough to feel it. I felt as if I looked at say a bird outside, I knew every bit of information about that specific bird, and how/why it was doing what it was doing, I could understand the purpose. I felt the true "power" behind meanings, words and sayings, It felt all too real to believe it was just "drugs"
An odd part of my trip a thought popped into my head of a wise old man responding to someone's comment "Well, I'm still alive ain't I?" Just think of an old man saying this with a smile.
Just that one phrase can hold so much meaning behind it, when he said this I could literally feel the potential of all the emotion/things this person has been through by him just saying a few words.
Basically what I'm saying is I agree with you guys there is definitely something that we are connected to, too bad we'll never know, or will we?
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19387724 - 01/08/14 11:49 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I feel like our consciousness are passed down from generation to generation and have a link to our pasts... Not in the since that we are the same person from hundreds of generations ago but the bi product of everything they saw heard ect. So honestly when you say we are all connected it is true, we all have to except we come from one place and that is what connects us... Idk a bunch of mumbo jumbo honestly :/ lol
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: G_rambo]
#19388360 - 01/08/14 02:07 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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cool so there is others that have some what deeper intuitions. if you find any good literature on this post it up. yea so ill go a little more in detail on what i can recall seeing. it was a human shape no face no hair sitting in a confined area with no way out with what looks liked thousands of buttons and controls. i got to see it for about a second and then i zoomed back trough empty space and back to this reality so to say. so from that i got the idea that it was me and trying to survive buy entering a physical body. could we live with out a consciousness? if so would that mean that we would be sorta animal like and not have some much free thought and be more like hunt eat fuck kill. i know science will detest me on this but hey it came from a over load of dopamine and Psilocin getting sucked into my neurons at receptor. not saying its any facts but it sure blow the mind.
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Magenta]
#19407013 - 01/12/14 05:53 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I just wrote this in a pm, about this topic. It's quite convoluted, but i think it gives a decent idea of how i feel, op you might like it.
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knightron said: I have a theory that our consciousness is like one big quantity of energy, and any living thing is just a vessel for a 'focused' bit of consciousness. I imagine if all matter was invisible, and this consciousness i talk about could be seen, it would look like a big ball with lots of spikes coming off it. The spikes are the energy being focused on to a living thing. The crazy thing about it is, if a living thing can think of, or remember an object or another living thing, they project a small ray of consciousness to that thing/creature, and a tiny souvenir of that object/creatures consciousnesses is taken. Consciousness is like a species though. Taking a little piece of it is not bad for it; it wants to spread out as much as possible. When a person dies, they do not stop existing; their consciousness still exist within others memories; however the majority of it dissolves into lots of smaller focus points, ect. We are all the same consciousness, we are just different vessels harnessing different focus points. Each focus point has a lid that keeps our focus point in focus and limited. Our brains can only withstand so much information. When a person/vessel takes a psychedelic, they are loosening the lid. If the take high doses of psychedelics, the lid is loosened enough the big consciousness collapses a little into the focus point of the vessel. The big consciousness is the source of all information. When it enters out focus, we are shown a huge amount of information, it's why some people say they've seen the truth, or have major realizations. The problem is, our vessels are designed for our focus points, and when this occurs, our brain can not handle the mass of information, so we forget a lot and other bits are only remnants and appear as gibberish.
Wow, i've never put that into text before. Hope you enjoy man. It's all theory, so none of it i strictly believe, but i do suspect it's close to the truth. Tell me what you think.
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Magenta]
#19410743 - 01/13/14 12:10 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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I see our brains function much like how computers function. The change of electrical charges in our neurons can be translated into changes between ones and zeroes. If we were to successfully create a conscious A.I. that could reflect on this question and it then comes to a conclusion that it's consciousness is separate from its' physical representation, where does that leave us? First off we know that the A.I. is just a function of complex algorithms that we have put in place to serve a specific role in the constituents of what makes consciousness work. Also if we were to cut electricity to this thing it would cease to perform computations do we say that the consciousness has left the body and has gone elsewhere? What about the human mind then? If we stop the transfer of electrical signals to our neurons do we stop computing and cease to "be" as it were? We can visualize how a tree is composed of large amounts of atoms, which by themselves do not contain the idea of a tree. It's through the interconnection of many that a tree is realized. Can we say the same about our consciousness?
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Amidst Eridanus said: Can we say the same about our consciousness?
Yes. Are you asking if consciousness is the result of enough complexity in our neurons? Yes I think so.
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Re: what my view on self conscious [Re: Aopocetx]
#19413148 - 01/13/14 04:21 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Yes, and not only that but that there is nothing else beyond death.
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5cruffyMuff
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no one can justify that life ends when you die...... no religion no heaven fuck those words I'm saying life after death period.
is are conscious matter? is it made of atoms? fuck that's a crazy to think about.
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