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A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here
#19386035 - 01/08/14 12:17 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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This man has said everything i've always wanted to say but was never eloquent enough to formulate properly.
His rant can also be applied to the right wing equivalent. And the reason i post this is because i notice this line of thinking and 'debate' is very common among the users of this forum, especially the die hards who aline themselves along strict party lines. Though there are more left wingers here than right. Hence the title. I hope everyone can watch this and take something from it.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19386553 - 01/08/14 05:01 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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His rant can also be applied to the right wing equivalent.
Which would be...?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19386794 - 01/08/14 07:54 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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He must have had fun with that rant.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19387591 - 01/08/14 11:33 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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His rant can also be applied to the right wing equivalent.
Which would be...?
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right republicans who align themselves with party dogma no matter what.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19387849 - 01/08/14 12:03 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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right republicans who align themselves with party dogma no matter what.
Condell is not ranting about lefties who align themselves with party dogma no matter what, he's ranting about callow lefties who suppress speech they disagree with by shouting down guest speakers.
Can you provide an example of similar behaviour from callow righties? Has a group of conservative college students ever shouted down a guest speaker whose views they disagree with? I'm not saying this has never occurred, just saying that if it has I missed the reports of it.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19387889 - 01/08/14 12:11 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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i know he was not ranting about that. I was simply saying i think the sentiment would also apply to other groups as well. i've had plenty of experience with right wingers shouting out opinions of those they do not want to hear. Bill o'reilly does it on his show all the time. I know its not a student group. but like i said i wasn't trying to imply a tit for tat equivalency, just that the sentiment of the rant can be applied to other groups as well.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19388102 - 01/08/14 01:04 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Many of the right wing EDL guys this guy seems to support are just the same idiots with no grammar who aren't interested in logical debate that he's maligning here, in fact in many cases they are a lot worse. Liberalism just happens to be the more prevalent view. So while he has a point I don't think it applies only to one side at all.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Grapefruit]
#19388111 - 01/08/14 01:07 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19388117 - 01/08/14 01:08 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I am talking about the UK, which is where this guy is from and from where he cites his examples.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Grapefruit]
#19388123 - 01/08/14 01:10 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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So post stats and a link.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Grapefruit]
#19388147 - 01/08/14 01:16 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Well I don't have any stats to back up my claim. And perhaps I'd say I'm uncertain about whether the 30+ generation is or not. Among the vocal youth though I am pretty sure it is the case just via my schooling experience and so on, as is the case with the stats you posted.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19388155 - 01/08/14 01:17 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I have to disagree with you on that. I have found there is a major difference between how right-leaning and left-leaning react to people advocating things with which they vehemently disagree. The righties will rebut the arguments, often rudely and perhaps illogically, but they will almost always let the argument be made. I'll have to take your word that Bill O'Reilly is an exception to the rule, since I have never seen one of his shows, but if I'm not mistaken the word on O'Reilly is that he talks over his guest no matter what. IT
The leftie preference is to prevent the argument from being made at all, through such crude measures as making it impossible for an invited guest to speak at an event or through more sophisticated tactics such as (in the case of the global warming hoax) colluding to prevent dissenting arguments from being published.
The leftie mindset is that it's better to suppress opposing viewpoints than to rebut them.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19388185 - 01/08/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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perhaps it just what my exposure has been but from what i can tell the right is just as bad as the left at trying to suppress alternative view points. Of course i am not talking about the moderate right. But the hard core religious freaks on fox. As you get closer and closer to the middle on both sides i noticed this behavior tends to reduce.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19388692 - 01/08/14 03:23 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Phred said: Can you provide an example of similar behaviour from callow righties?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Enlil]
#19388965 - 01/08/14 04:15 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Umm no. That is not at all the same thing as college retardates shutting down debate and demanding the excision of unfavored speakers. It's a TV show
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389120 - 01/08/14 04:39 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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zappaisgod said: It's a TV show
And a great one at that.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Enlil] 1
#19396509 - 01/09/14 11:25 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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We have a two party system in the US. One party is the Authoritarian Progressives which includes globalist lefties and globalist righties who want to crawl up everyone's ass with a microscope, put studded dog collars on everyone, and make the people bark on demand.
Then we have libertarians who just want the government out of their hair, but they are labeled as crazy because they threaten the big government, gloablist authoritarian spending binge that has kept the Authoritarians--D's and R's--in power for the last hundred years.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
#19396564 - 01/09/14 11:39 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said: We have a two party system in the US. One party is the Authoritarian Regressives...
Fixed it for you
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Echro]
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Fixed it for you 
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19397645 - 01/10/14 07:24 AM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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The truth is usually somewhere in the middle....
Thats the way I look at things. It is just as important to listen and to understand where people are coming from.
I am a liberal or progressive whatever label you want to put on it. But, both sides are very guilty of shouting.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
#19397659 - 01/10/14 07:29 AM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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I like the idea of libertarianism but.. It has its problems and I see it as a non-viable system when implemented fully. Just as communism is a good idea on paper but does not really work. Thats why there is no example of a pure libertarian system today. Main problem is with the privatization of public services or resources.
Like Water, Environmental issues, roads, police, fire department, Medicine.....
I like the idea but I just see libertarians as disgruntled members of a former party. I wish we had a system where a third party could challenge the establishment so we could get something new.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: rougescientist]
#19398443 - 01/10/14 11:12 AM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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there is no such thing as "pure libertarianism" its a general political philosophy. There can be many different sets of belief that fit within the umbrella of libertarian. For instance one person could want everything down to the military privatized, while others would still keep all government services still public, both are libertarians.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19423019 - 01/15/14 02:01 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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How unfortunate that you don't recognize the difference between an ideology and a party.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Grapefruit said: Liberalism just happens to be the more prevalent view.
Ummm... nope.
At least in the US...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-americans-more-conservative-liberal-social-issues-liberals-are-gaining
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
non sequitur. Republican does not equal conservative. Most conservatives I know wouldn't piss on the Republicans if they were on fire
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19423668 - 01/15/14 04:26 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Liberalism just happens to be the more prevalent view.
Ummm... nope.
At least in the US...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-americans-more-conservative-liberal-social-issues-liberals-are-gaining
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
non sequitur. Republican does not equal conservative. Most conservatives I know wouldn't piss on the Republicans if they were on fire
Obviously.
Not trying to refute your claim, just add some relevant information.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19423756 - 01/15/14 04:52 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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psyconaught said: perhaps it just what my exposure has been but from what i can tell the right is just as bad as the left at trying to suppress alternative view points. Of course i am not talking about the moderate right. But the hard core religious freaks on fox. As you get closer and closer to the middle on both sides i noticed this behavior tends to reduce.
I cannot believe you are on a website for growing mushrooms and are right sided calling leftists religious fanatics as though republicans aren't

I will say this, although I don't believe communism could ever truly work, in any real society, because obviously not everyone will work equally and therefore sharing everything equivalently is futile, I don't believe in capitalism at all. Capitalism is a fraud to help achieve a reason that rich can be rich and why everyone else didn't "work as hard" and can't share the same wealth.
I truly wish that socialism could have worked, and was working. I think it would be a true testament to a much better form of government, a much smaller gap between classes, and could serve as an example that capitalism could not follow. I find capitalism to be more fair simply because of our democratic freedom of speech laws and balance of power e.g. the f.b.i. could arrest the military but the military could arrest the f.b.i. but the president controls them all but the president can be impeached etc.
HOWEVER, socialism has come a LONG LONG ways in the last 50 years, and the quality of life in socialist countries has much improved. Perhaps in time socialism could still teach us a valuable lesson. I believe in working hard and sharing, something I learned when I was a little kid. Everyone cooks and cleans the kitchen and everyone eats. This I believe. But it sure doesn't exist in capitalism and unfortunately not in communism either
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
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Ummm... nope.
At least in the US...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-americans-more-conservative-liberal-social-issues-liberals-are-gaining
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
non sequitur. Republican does not equal conservative. Most conservatives I know wouldn't piss on the Republicans if they were on fire
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
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your reading comprehension isn't quite up to snuff is it? I claimed both sides were just as guilty as the other. In fact the only time i brought up religious fanaticism is in reference to the right.
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Awesome work ethic. Something everyone should have. However there is a difference between leaning that ethic and being forced to practice it at the point of a gun. I.e socialism.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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If socialism didnt involve such severe authority, Id respect it a lot. But then again, without such extreme authority what governnent would be so bad. Communist societies existed peacefully, communist governments are terrible
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
#19424292 - 01/15/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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You are free to live in socialist communities here in America. However once you start forcing others into that system we have a problem. Capitalism allows free association with the method of employment/work of your choosing.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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socialism and communism don't have anything to do with "forcing" any more then democracy has anything to do with "drafting." The governments take these basic forms of economic distribution and decide on what level of authority they will add and how much power the people have to change what is happening politically.
You could easily have a capitalist country that is completely fascist. As long as we are getting technical, I was under the impression that there has never been capitalism, democracy, socialism, or true communism within any form of government. Am I wrong?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
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the only way a government gets anything done is by threat of violence.
No you cannot have a truly capitalist system with a fascist government. it is a contradiction of terms. You are correct in that there has never been a 'pure' system.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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The difference is lefties don't support the rich. Which as far as I'm concerned is following majority rule. I have no problem with liberal republicans though.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: King Klick]
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the left support the rich just as much as the right. The crucial difference? The left want big business and big government to be one and the same. The right want big business to exist, just separate from the government.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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the left support the rich just as much as the right. The crucial difference? The left want big business and big government to be one and the same. The right want big business to exist, just separate from the government.
Is that why the right likes to bail out companies (obama did it to, not a fan of that) and give big subsidies to the corporations? I think you got it the other way around.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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psyconaught said: The right want big business to exist, just separate from the government.
& this is where I draw the distinction between a successful business & a politically favored business. A fair majority of big business has it's palm out. Kick the crutch out from beneath them & we'll see if they can keep up like everybody else
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: King Klick]
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King Klick said: The difference is lefties don't support the rich. Which as far as I'm concerned is following majority rule. I have no problem with liberal republicans though.
the left support the rich just as much as the right. The crucial difference? The left want big business and big government to be one and the same. The right want big business to exist, just separate from the government.
Is that why the right likes to bail out companies (obama did it to, not a fan of that) and give big subsidies to the corporations? I think you got it the other way around.
i should have clarified. I was meaning the right by the definition. Not the current state. Currently the left and right are puppets on each hand of the same person.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Echro]
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& this is where I draw the distinction between a successful business & a politically favored business. A fair majority of big business has it's palm out. Kick the crutch out from beneath them & we'll see if they can keep up like everybody else
exactly. Let the fucking banks fail, and the oil companies, and the auto companies. Fuck bail outs.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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 Too big to fail? Not on my fucking dime
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: King Klick]
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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Echro said: Too big to fail? Not on my fucking dime
Let the oil company's fail? Do you guys have jobs? Every construction company I have ever worked for relies on the constant uninterrupted supply of diesel to get their shit to the job site . And most of the heavy equipment used to put shit together is powered by diesel. So there goes my job. If you work in a grocery store ,dam near any store or a warehouse your job probably relies on a diesel powered 18 wheeler to pick shit up or drop shit off. And let's not forget about the drivers. Do you guys like to eat? I do. Guess who also relies on diesel ? FARMERS! They need it to harvest shit . They get their own special diesel called red dye diesel. It's not really special , just tax free . You know who makes jet fuel for our military? Our oil company's and their refineries . The airforce is gunna hate you . I'm guessing our commercial airlines and the people who need them would have something to say about your plans as well. If your house is on fire or threatened by a forest fire the firemen are going to want to drive their fire truck ,helicopter ,or plane there to put water on it. Haven't even said anything about gas yet. Something as simple as a fire in a refinery or equipment failure that causes them to flare can cause prices to go up. Do you expect the price to go down if they fail? So what I gather from you is you want seriously hurt the construction industry, and most other jobs, disrupt our food supply , hurt our air force , hurt our commercial airline industry , send the price of gas through the roof and watch everyone's fucking house burn down. Yay thumbs up for you guys! What the oil company's give us is way more important than what we give them, we just give them our money, they give us everything we need to make life in the modern world securely and reliably happen . Your liberty and security is not maintained by your second amendment right , the mafia will always have you outgunned . That comes from our governments ability to enforce laws , and the cops need to put gas in their cars to do that. We could maybe let the other 2 fail , but let our oil company's fail and your dime will be more useful to you melted down and moulded into a bullet you'll have nothing to spend it on.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psilynut]
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the oil companies don't get 'bailed out' They get tax credits when they produce oil in other countries and those countries tax the shit out of them. They do get subsidies for research.
What is the government's stake? Well, the Federal Government makes more money off the oil the oil companies produce than the oil company does.
Now the banks, that is another story.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psilynut]
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without government assistance the oil companies will simply need to be better managed.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
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What leads you to believe the oil companies are poorly managed? 
i don't think they are necessarily poorly managed. They would just be better managed without gov. subsidies.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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Oh, right. I think the govenment meddling on all levels creates inefficiencies and also creates crutches that the companies depend on. But unlike GM, etc, oil companies are self-sustainiing.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: King Klick]
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the left support the rich just as much as the right. The crucial difference? The left want big business and big government to be one and the same. The right want big business to exist, just separate from the government.
Is that why the right likes to bail out companies (obama did it to, not a fan of that) and give big subsidies to the corporations? I think you got it the other way around.
The right doesn't want to bail out any businesses it doesn't ruin itself. The Republicans do. Not the same thing.
By the way, not taxing me does not equal subsidizing me any more than not robbing me means you gave me money
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It is a small-minded opinion to think that all left-wing students are unwilling to hear opposition.
The man in the video is very condescending and overly opinionated. He should practice what he preaches and spread the love a little more 
As one comment said: "If dictionaries had pictures or videos, then this would be the caption for ''Irony''."
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught] 1
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It also "allows" the employer to pay you jack shit when he knows the job market is in bad shape.
Lets stop pretending that capitalism =opportunity for all. This debate should have ended 40 years ago.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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but capitalism does equal opportunity for all.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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explain. How is free associate of individuals negative?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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The way I see it socialism would be the natural state of society without government. Without limited liability given to companies by the government the current stockholder/LLC structure could never exist. The difference between socialism and capitalism is a mere alteration of the corporate structure. Mondragon Corporation does socialism right. Without the gov every company would too.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It also "allows" the employer to pay you jack shit when he knows the job market is in bad shape.
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Lets stop pretending that capitalism =opportunity for all. This debate should have ended 40 years ago.
Start your own business if you don't like it. Nobody is stopping you. The government is hindering you but not quite stopping you. Yet.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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No, it doesn't.
Equality of opportunity does not equal equality of outcome
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
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It also "allows" the employer to pay you jack shit when he knows the job market is in bad shape.
Tough shit. Be your own employer if you don't like itQuote:
Lets stop pretending that capitalism =opportunity for all. This debate should have ended 40 years ago.
Start your own business if you don't like it. Nobody is stopping you. The government is hindering you but not quite stopping you. Yet.
lol. It's so simple!!!
Theres a finite supply of capital, market share, and consumers, the same way there is a finite supply of jobs.
Not everybody can be a successful entrepreneur, the model of our economy explicitly forbids it. And statistics support that fact.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
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No, it doesn't.
Equality of opportunity does not equal equality of outcome
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Opportunity isn't even equal.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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the model of our economy explicitly forbids it
Thats crony capitalism for you notice that is crony capitalism. NOT capitalism.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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the model of our economy explicitly forbids it
Thats crony capitalism for you notice that is crony capitalism. NOT capitalism.
Every model of capitalism to ever exist is crony.
That's like the people who say "yeah communism is only good in theory, it never works in practice."
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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what's the distinction between crony capitalism and capitalism?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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No.
What's the distinction between capitalism in reality and communism in reality? In terms of strict adherence to the ideology?
If you're readily admitting that capitalism doesn't work in the real world the way it should, isn't it fair to suggest alternatives?
If a guy was sitting in a work camp in 1960's Siberia complaining of a meager standard of living, would it be fair to tell him "Don't knock communism man, this is crony communism."
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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capitalism in reality does not force shitty situations upon anyone. Communism by definition does.
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It also "allows" the employer to pay you jack shit when he knows the job market is in bad shape.
Tough shit. Be your own employer if you don't like itQuote:
Lets stop pretending that capitalism =opportunity for all. This debate should have ended 40 years ago.
Start your own business if you don't like it. Nobody is stopping you. The government is hindering you but not quite stopping you. Yet.
lol. It's so simple!!!
Theres a finite supply of capital, market share, and consumers, the same way there is a finite supply of jobs.
Not everybody can be a successful entrepreneur, the model of our economy explicitly forbids it. And statistics support that fact.
Keep making excuses for yourself. I didn't need any capital to start my business. Stop whining.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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They both can.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: qman]
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I'm not making excuses for myself, I happen to be doing just fine.
It's called empathy.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It's called empathy.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It also "allows" the employer to pay you jack shit when he knows the job market is in bad shape.
Lets stop pretending that capitalism =opportunity for all. This debate should have ended 40 years ago.
Oh BOO HOO HOO. The system is 'unfair.'
Well suck it up Jack. If you don't want to do anything for yourself except complain don't worry about it. After all, the country needs ditch-diggers too.
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It also "allows" the employer to pay you jack shit when he knows the job market is in bad shape.
Lets stop pretending that capitalism =opportunity for all. This debate should have ended 40 years ago.
Oh BOO HOO HOO. The system is 'unfair.'
Well suck it up Jack. If you don't want to do anything for yourself except complain don't worry about it. After all, the country needs ditch-diggers too.
Is that what you tell yourself everytime you make a thread about Democrats ruining the world?
And I don't know how to make it any more clear that I'm not advocating a social democracy because I want sympathy or because my life sucks. My upbringing and successes should dictate that I be a conservative, but I also tend to read sometimes so instead I lean left. I also have a bachelor's degree in finance from a popular state university and have a great job. You two are so predisposed to the knee-jerk catch phrases that you honestly have no response to someone arguing against greed.
"He must be disadvantaged or lazy or wanting a handout because there's no other reason he'd be condemning the largest wealth inequality in our nation's history."
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting. they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where. 
But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
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But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
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Lets all agree to stick to our respective lanes, I mean who better to speak on American Economic policy and Government than whiny canadiens and socialist limeys.
in return I'll stay out of your shit
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: EddYerb]
#19468324 - 01/24/14 04:06 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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What's your buissnes?
I can't think of any business that doesn't require capital.
Construction. I never took a loan, not one nickel, for my business.Quote:
You stunningly fail to respond to his accurate criticisms with anything more than condescending remarks.
That is because he deserves nothing but condescension for his I can't do it negativity. If you think you can't do it you can't do it. You're fucked and I don't care as long as I don't have to have some guy with a gun come and take my money to buy him or you shit you did nothing to earn. Whiners can all fuck off.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: myc_check1212]
#19468327 - 01/24/14 04:06 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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myc_check1212 said: Lets all agree to stick to our respective lanes, I mean who better to speak on American Economic policy and Government than whiny canadiens and socialist limeys.
in return I'll stay out of your shit
I have yet to see a Canadian or a European who has the least clue about the US.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod] 1
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Other than me. I'm a Canadian-Dominican and I have more clue about the US than many of the Merkins posting here, you betcha.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
#19469697 - 01/24/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said: I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting. they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where. 
But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist? Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers. People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19470318 - 01/25/14 01:15 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said: I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting. they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where. 
But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist? Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers. People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.
because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want. It is their money. If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes] 1
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starfire_xes said: I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting. they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where. 
But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist? Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers. People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.
because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want. It is their money. If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.
Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Mush4Brains]
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starfire_xes said: I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting. they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where. 
But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist? Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers. People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.
Idiots and power mad scum are. I know damn well why they are making more in a year than the average yutz will make in his lifetime. For a simple example consider professional baseball and basketball stars. It is value above replacement player.
If he is a college graduate flipping burgers he should be making the same as a high school dropout flipping burgers.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19472047 - 01/25/14 01:01 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said: I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting. they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where. 
But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist? Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers. People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.
because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want. It is their money. If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.
Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.
I believe they are elected by the stockholders to represent them.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19472282 - 01/25/14 01:59 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19472457 - 01/25/14 02:41 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said: I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting. they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where. 
But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics.
And I read A LOT.
That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.
Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist? Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers. People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.
because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want. It is their money. If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.
Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.
The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions. It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make. I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government. then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money. But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries. it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.
One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money. It is the government people who you pay to serve you.
But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
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Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19473327 - 01/25/14 06:14 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.
Yeah. Thats great man. All I said was
The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions. It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make. I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government. then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money. But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries. it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.
One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money. It is the government people who you pay to serve you.
But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19474058 - 01/25/14 09:11 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Idiots and power mad scum are. I know damn well why they are making more in a year than the average yutz will make in his lifetime. For a simple example consider professional baseball and basketball stars. It is value above replacement player.
If he is a college graduate flipping burgers he should be making the same as a high school dropout flipping burgers.
You're fucking delusional.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Mush4Brains]
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it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19475476 - 01/26/14 06:36 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: robbinbanks]
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robbinbanks said: it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)
And here I thought the least coherent point had already been made.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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robbinbanks said: it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)
And here I thought the least coherent point had already been made.
his point actually makes a lot of sense.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Idiots and power mad scum are. I know damn well why they are making more in a year than the average yutz will make in his lifetime. For a simple example consider professional baseball and basketball stars. It is value above replacement player.
If he is a college graduate flipping burgers he should be making the same as a high school dropout flipping burgers.
You're fucking delusional.
No I'm not, you are. Do you really think anybody would pay money to see you play shortstop for the Yankees?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
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robbinbanks said: it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt
regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)
And here I thought the least coherent point had already been made.
his point actually makes a lot of sense.
Yeah especially the part about income equality bringing down the rich.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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thats the line of thinking a lot of people have unfortunately. The rich make too much money, so we need to take away some of it (higher taxes) so others can have more.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.

That was brilliant, I remember a time when it took a smart person to have all that education. No you are right, all that 'income inequality' shit is bullshit, good thing you have all those bachelors and masters
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
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Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist? Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers. People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.
because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want. It is their money. If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.
Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.
The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions. It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make. I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government. then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money. But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries. it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.
One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money. It is the government people who you pay to serve you.
But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.
You act as though a business is like real estate, its owned by you and just you. Bullshit, in real estate there is eminent domain. When a company goes public and accepts an ipo they give up a percentage of shares, they no longer have entirety ownership. You pay taxes so the government protects you. People have a right and privilege to live in this country, not a guarantee. Therefore its the fucking governments business. If we didnt live within the structure of the government that set laws on how business runs and politicians werent elected to set those laws and people couldnt vote on politicians then itd be nobodies business. But it is. For sure what is none of your fucking business is what politician or laws I prefer and support. None what so ever, who died and made you president or someone who pays majority taxes, huh?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.
Some ceos own less then 5% of the company. This is a tired old argumeny based on ego no one will listen to you its pure stupidity. You know the difference between penny stock and the wealthiest stock? Commission for brokers for penny is 50% and for the wealthiest 1%
Who says this country is fair and that business practice is nobodies business is so full of shit. 50% of businesses are as crooked as the employees hire. Its absolutely everybodys business when the stability of the country that taxes these companies and protects us and provides our freedom is in question.
Starfire Xes isnt in the 1%, his taxes arent shit and he doesnt provide my freedom unless he joined the marines. Dont ask me what he is barking about or why he thinks his opinion is so important
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
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The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions. It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make. I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government. then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money. But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries. it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.
One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money. It is the government people who you pay to serve you.
But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.
You act as though a business is like real estate, its owned by you and just you. Bullshit, in real estate there is eminent domain. When a company goes public and accepts an ipo they give up a percentage of shares, they no longer have entirety ownership. You pay taxes so the government protects you. People have a right and privilege to live in this country, not a guarantee. Therefore its the fucking governments business. If we didnt live within the structure of the government that set laws on how business runs and politicians werent elected to set those laws and people couldnt vote on politicians then itd be nobodies business. But it is. For sure what is none of your fucking business is what politician or laws I prefer and support. None what so ever, who died and made you president or someone who pays majority taxes, huh?
Where does eminent domain factor? It doesn't. My business is owned by me and only me. My wife's is owned by her and her alone. I have no obligation to make money to maximize the tax revenue it generates. Most businesses are NOT publicly traded. Living in this country is either a right or a privilege, not both. In regard to publicly traded companies there are varying classes of stock. Look at the NY Times. Except for the shares held by the family most are not voting shares.
You go on and on and on with these rants that have almost no basis in reality. Go get a fucking job you can do and stop with the bullshit.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.
Some ceos own less then 5% of the company. This is a tired old argumeny based on ego no one will listen to you its pure stupidity. You know the difference between penny stock and the wealthiest stock? Commission for brokers for penny is 50% and for the wealthiest 1%
Whether they own 100% or 0% is none of your concern regarding their pay level. There are a lot more differences between penny stocks and legit stocks than the commission a broker is paid and I suspect you are completely full of shit about the commissions.Quote:
Who says this country is fair and that business practice is nobodies business is so full of shit. 50% of businesses are as crooked as the employees hire. Its absolutely everybodys business when the stability of the country that taxes these companies and protects us and provides our freedom is in question.
We do not work for the government. The government works for us. You seem to have that backward.Quote:
Starfire Xes isnt in the 1%, his taxes arent shit and he doesnt provide my freedom unless he joined the marines. Dont ask me what he is barking about or why he thinks his opinion is so important
I don't believe many people even bother to read your disjointed nonsense. It is as predictable a whine as there is. Boo hoo somebody else is making money and I'm not. Get your shit together.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
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imachavel said:
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.
Some ceos own less then 5% of the company. This is a tired old argumeny based on ego no one will listen to you its pure stupidity. You know the difference between penny stock and the wealthiest stock? Commission for brokers for penny is 50% and for the wealthiest 1%
Whether they own 100% or 0% is none of your concern regarding their pay level. There are a lot more differences between penny stocks and legit stocks than the commission a broker is paid and I suspect you are completely full of shit about the commissions.
So post the actual commissions or shut the fuck up. And if the government works for the people then the people want a higher raise then they should get it. Oh right, the government works for us, that is if us is rich it has nothing to do with majority. Maybe you should take your head out your ass and get the fuck out of here. Quit embarassing yourself with constant contradictory arguments. The government either caters to the rich or they dont. And either way you arent in the 1% so shut the fuck up
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
#19477658 - 01/26/14 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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No, you made the statement. Back it up.
I am in one 1%. You are in the other 1%.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19477848 - 01/26/14 05:31 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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Are you taking résumés?
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zappaisgod
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: myc_check1212]
#19477854 - 01/26/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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Nope.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19477896 - 01/26/14 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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Are you sure, most of my career experience has been manufacturing and CNC.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: myc_check1212] 1
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Democracy is fine until the majority wants immigration reform, or a minimum wage hike, or healthcare reform, or marriage equality, or social safety nets, or access to birth control or abortions, or the right for workers to unionize, then the people have no clue what's best for them. Even though the Republicans use the nanny state term when it's convenient, they're actually the ones advising the public what's best for them in relation to most social issues.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Democracy is fine until the majority wants immigration reform, or a minimum wage hike, or healthcare reform, or marriage equality, or social safety nets, or access to birth control or abortions, or the right for workers to unionize, then the people have no clue what's best for them. Even though the Republicans use the nanny state term when it's convenient, they're actually the ones advising the public what's best for them in relation to most social issues.
Democracy is awful. Though i will agree with the Republican party being a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
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how is that?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: myc_check1212]
#19482566 - 01/27/14 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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myc_check1212 said: Are you sure, most of my career experience has been manufacturing and CNC.
I've never once taken a resume. In less than a week I will know what you are worth.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19485174 - 01/28/14 08:20 AM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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Well then please return mine cause I reuse them. I hear Burgerbutt needs a greeter.
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