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psyconaught
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A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here
#19386035 - 01/08/14 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This man has said everything i've always wanted to say but was never eloquent enough to formulate properly.
His rant can also be applied to the right wing equivalent. And the reason i post this is because i notice this line of thinking and 'debate' is very common among the users of this forum, especially the die hards who aline themselves along strict party lines. Though there are more left wingers here than right. Hence the title. I hope everyone can watch this and take something from it.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19386553 - 01/08/14 05:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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His rant can also be applied to the right wing equivalent.
Which would be...?
Phred
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19386794 - 01/08/14 07:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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He must have had fun with that rant.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19387591 - 01/08/14 11:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Phred said:
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His rant can also be applied to the right wing equivalent.
Which would be...?
Phred
right republicans who align themselves with party dogma no matter what.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19387849 - 01/08/14 12:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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right republicans who align themselves with party dogma no matter what.
Condell is not ranting about lefties who align themselves with party dogma no matter what, he's ranting about callow lefties who suppress speech they disagree with by shouting down guest speakers.
Can you provide an example of similar behaviour from callow righties? Has a group of conservative college students ever shouted down a guest speaker whose views they disagree with? I'm not saying this has never occurred, just saying that if it has I missed the reports of it.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19387889 - 01/08/14 12:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i know he was not ranting about that. I was simply saying i think the sentiment would also apply to other groups as well. i've had plenty of experience with right wingers shouting out opinions of those they do not want to hear. Bill o'reilly does it on his show all the time. I know its not a student group. but like i said i wasn't trying to imply a tit for tat equivalency, just that the sentiment of the rant can be applied to other groups as well.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19388102 - 01/08/14 01:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Many of the right wing EDL guys this guy seems to support are just the same idiots with no grammar who aren't interested in logical debate that he's maligning here, in fact in many cases they are a lot worse. Liberalism just happens to be the more prevalent view. So while he has a point I don't think it applies only to one side at all.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Grapefruit]
#19388111 - 01/08/14 01:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19388117 - 01/08/14 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am talking about the UK, which is where this guy is from and from where he cites his examples.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Grapefruit]
#19388123 - 01/08/14 01:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So post stats and a link.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Grapefruit]
#19388147 - 01/08/14 01:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I don't have any stats to back up my claim. And perhaps I'd say I'm uncertain about whether the 30+ generation is or not. Among the vocal youth though I am pretty sure it is the case just via my schooling experience and so on, as is the case with the stats you posted.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19388155 - 01/08/14 01:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have to disagree with you on that. I have found there is a major difference between how right-leaning and left-leaning react to people advocating things with which they vehemently disagree. The righties will rebut the arguments, often rudely and perhaps illogically, but they will almost always let the argument be made. I'll have to take your word that Bill O'Reilly is an exception to the rule, since I have never seen one of his shows, but if I'm not mistaken the word on O'Reilly is that he talks over his guest no matter what. IT
The leftie preference is to prevent the argument from being made at all, through such crude measures as making it impossible for an invited guest to speak at an event or through more sophisticated tactics such as (in the case of the global warming hoax) colluding to prevent dissenting arguments from being published.
The leftie mindset is that it's better to suppress opposing viewpoints than to rebut them.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19388185 - 01/08/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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perhaps it just what my exposure has been but from what i can tell the right is just as bad as the left at trying to suppress alternative view points. Of course i am not talking about the moderate right. But the hard core religious freaks on fox. As you get closer and closer to the middle on both sides i noticed this behavior tends to reduce.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Phred]
#19388692 - 01/08/14 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Phred said: Can you provide an example of similar behaviour from callow righties?
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Enlil]
#19388965 - 01/08/14 04:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Umm no. That is not at all the same thing as college retardates shutting down debate and demanding the excision of unfavored speakers. It's a TV show
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
#19389120 - 01/08/14 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: It's a TV show
And a great one at that.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Enlil] 1
#19396509 - 01/09/14 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We have a two party system in the US. One party is the Authoritarian Progressives which includes globalist lefties and globalist righties who want to crawl up everyone's ass with a microscope, put studded dog collars on everyone, and make the people bark on demand.
Then we have libertarians who just want the government out of their hair, but they are labeled as crazy because they threaten the big government, gloablist authoritarian spending binge that has kept the Authoritarians--D's and R's--in power for the last hundred years.
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
#19396564 - 01/09/14 11:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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starfire_xes said: We have a two party system in the US. One party is the Authoritarian Regressives...
Fixed it for you
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Echro]
#19396697 - 01/10/14 12:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Echro said:
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starfire_xes said: We have a two party system in the US. One party is the Authoritarian Regressives...
Fixed it for you 
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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
#19397645 - 01/10/14 07:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The truth is usually somewhere in the middle....
Thats the way I look at things. It is just as important to listen and to understand where people are coming from.
I am a liberal or progressive whatever label you want to put on it. But, both sides are very guilty of shouting.
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