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ToobyNT
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Advice on fruiting cakes...
#19385602 - 01/07/14 10:40 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Hello all, This is my first post here but have been reading for a few months. I started my shroom journey with 4 jars that fully cultivated and 2 jars had beat the others so I got a little excited and tried fruiting soon as they were done (before I knew about letting em sit for a few more weeks). I had a fairly big tub with perlite but things went down hill since the cakes started turning dark. This was before knowing of dunking or anything. I tossed the discoloring cakes as well. So after doing more research, I decided to do stuff by the book.. Made a new tub with the shotgun fruiting chamber technique.. Reused the perlite from the other tub. Oh and let me add, I bought the wrong jars when I made these cakes... So when I had started fruiting with the 2 other jars that sat for 2 weeks after 100% on outside , I had to cut em into quarters to get out the cakes. I assumed it wouldn't do anything to the growth since fungus is fungus?? But anyways, I'm on a week into them being in fruiting chamber and from what I can tell comparing pictures on here and my cakes... I did dunk for 18 hours and rolled in fresh vercumilite. They look like they were about to pin but maybe due to my heavy misting I think it stunted em. And I believe I didn't fan enough, I maybe only did it twice a day.. I had read to let more CO2 build up before pinning. But I decided to take a look at the under side of the cakes and make sure they didn't start growing other stuff... So I flipped some of em to help the water evoparate. But I'm just wondering if I can keep fanning more and misting a lil less that I could save em??? Humidity is perfect and temp is around 71F.
Thanks in advance!!!!!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19385618 - 01/07/14 10:43 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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just leave them and dont handle, mist until the surface glistens and fan for about 30 seconds after and repeat when the surface starts to dry up
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19385657 - 01/07/14 10:50 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Will do, just hate to see these cakes go bad like the others. I know these questions get repeated a lot but I did wonder since I had cut em in quarters if that may have affected em.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19385668 - 01/07/14 10:51 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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JUST MAKE SURE THERE PLENTLY MOIST, fucking caps lock but it should still fruit,i've seen shot glasses give nice fruits it just may need some recovery time is all
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19385693 - 01/07/14 10:56 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yup, I will give em more time!!! Just can't wait! Thanks buddy!!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19385719 - 01/07/14 11:00 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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no prob
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19385732 - 01/07/14 11:03 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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71 degrees is a little low for a PF cake, if you don't get anything in a few days just break the cakes up and put them in dirt and start over, I had to do this a bunch.
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cronicr



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Quote:
EarthBounded said:
71 degrees is a little low for a PF cake, if you don't get anything in a few days just break the cakes up and put them in dirt and start over, I had to do this a bunch.
fixed lol
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19385754 - 01/07/14 11:09 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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cronicr said:
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EarthBounded said:
71 degrees is a little low for a PF cake, if you don't get anything in a few days just break the cakes up and put them in dirt and start over, I had to do this a bunch.
fixed lol
Whatever you obviously know your stuff, but I never have success at 71 degrees with PF cakes and they do shrivel up am I that out of line?
I learned to bump up heat to 76 which would put the cake at about 80 degrees which is perfect?
Please inform me on what is wrong with this statement, some PF Jars are picky little guys.
Not to mention the OP admits having to cut the cakes and using the wrong jar before full colonization, just keeping it real, the OP knows how to do shit right now
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cronicr



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i'm just messing around but they should fruit fine at those temps and you should only quit on a cake if it contams
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19385770 - 01/07/14 11:14 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I think with lower temps, they have slower growth??
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19385785 - 01/07/14 11:18 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said: I think with lower temps, they have slower growth??
Not true at all, they are more contam resistant and will usually be stalled. To properly fruit a pf cake you really need to raise the temp, humidity after a proper dunk and roll, 76 is perfect cakes are picky, this raises the temp to 80 degrees inside the cake.
Fruiting is induced by humidity, Fresh air exchange and light. Mist and fan 3 times a day, do not soak just a proper mist, make sure light is 6500k and make sure your SGFC is properly built
I have had to buy a space heater and it takes care of the problem right away.
But good luck I am not trying to press a negative vibe.
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cronicr said: you should only quit on a cake if it contams
Agreed Mr. Crankey! but also if they shrivel up and bruise blue with no fruits then you should ditch them in the garden. This will happen when they are not properly cared for, don't get me wrong you probably know a shit load more than me.
Yes they CAN still fruit at this temp but you will have a higher success rate at 76 guuranteeeed
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Edited by EarthBounded (01/07/14 11:22 PM)
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Quote:
EarthBounded said:
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ToobyNT said: I think with lower temps, they have slower growth??
Not true at all, they are more contam resistant and will usually be stalled. To properly fruit a pf cake you really need to raise the temp, humidity after a proper dunk and roll, 76 is perfect cakes are picky, this raises the temp to 80 degrees inside the cake.
Fruiting is induced by humidity, Fresh air exchange and light. Mist and fan 3 times a day, do not soak just a proper mist, make sure light is 6500k and make sure your SGFC is properly built
I have had to buy a space heater and it takes care of the problem right away.
But good luck I am not trying to press a negative vibe.
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cronicr said: you should only quit on a cake if it contams
Agreed Mr. Crankey! but also if they shrivel up and bruise blue with no fruits then you should ditch them in the garden. This will happen when they are not properly cared for, don't get me wrong you probably know a shit load more than me.
Yes they CAN still fruit at this temp but you will have a higherFASTER success rate at 76 guuranteeeed
fixed lol and i probly don't know more...but lower temps will just slow it down a little but not anything noticable at 71 and won't hurt yeild
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19385830 - 01/07/14 11:28 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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lol,
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ToobyNT
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19385864 - 01/07/14 11:37 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I almost want to get out the popcorn and watch u two... Lol
But I appreciate both ur inputs.
I do have appropriate lighting as well. Talking to a person that sells light bulbs lol I'm thinking within a few more days the pins will be out and all will be good!! Maybe I'll get some pictures of the cakes tomorrow for u guys to check out..
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19385876 - 01/07/14 11:39 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said: I almost want to get out the popcorn and watch u two... Lol
But I appreciate both ur inputs.
I do have appropriate lighting as well. Talking to a person that sells light bulbs lol I'm thinking within a few more days the pins will be out and all will be good!! Maybe I'll get some pictures of the cakes tomorrow for u guys to check out..
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19385917 - 01/07/14 11:47 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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LolQuote:
cronicr said:
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ToobyNT said: I almost want to get out the popcorn and watch u two... Lol
But I appreciate both ur inputs.
I do have appropriate lighting as well. Talking to a person that sells light bulbs lol I'm thinking within a few more days the pins will be out and all will be good!! Maybe I'll get some pictures of the cakes tomorrow for u guys to check out..
fixed
Lol I shall return tomorrow with pics then. Call u Mr fix it Hahahaha.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19385928 - 01/07/14 11:49 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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ToobyNT
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19387016 - 01/08/14 09:20 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Got some pics this morning before misting....
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387052 - 01/08/14 09:29 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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ToobyNT
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19387079 - 01/08/14 09:36 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Lol, they look like everyone elses cakes... just quarters! Should I have em on their own foil or u think they ok as is? Today is the one week mark I've had em in fruiting chamber. C'mon Mr. Fix(ed) It!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387098 - 01/08/14 09:42 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said: Lol, they look like everyone elses cakes... just quarters! Should I have emTHEM on their own foil or u think they ok as is? Today is the one week mark I've had em in fruiting chamber. C'mon Mr. Fix(ed) It! 
FIXED now as for your 1/4 cakes there fine just keep up with your misting/fanning and they should still push something out
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19387181 - 01/08/14 10:05 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Hopefully that 'something' will be good!! Heh
But I've done reading as to if u mist cakes directly... I've read it doesn't matter and some ppl say it causes aborts. I've been misting directly, but I feel it was heavy misting... What do U do??
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19387206 - 01/08/14 10:13 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Lol I fruit my cakes a room temp and my room temp is 68 degrees lol I have great yields and usually see pins in 4 days on another note I don't think the temp is the biggest problem in this grow it started off horrible but anywho good luck op and just start ur next set of jars now and pray for these o yea and buy the right size jars! Peace.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387226 - 01/08/14 10:17 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I don't see no pins in ur pics so misting direct using goin to hurt I would just let mist fall onto cakes once u have some pins and mist and fan like a mad man mist 3 to 4 times a day an fan 5 to 6 if u have the time evaporation is a huge pinning trigger I and what type of light are u useing!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387227 - 01/08/14 10:17 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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NOTFALL3N said: Lol I fruit my cakes a room temp and my room temp is 68 degrees lol I have great yields and usually see pins in 4 days on another note I don't think the temp is the biggest problem in this grow it started off horrible but anywho good luck op and just start ur next set of jars now and pray for these o yea and buy the right size jars! Peace.
Lol I got the right ones now!! Going to start on em one of these days... Once I found out I got wrong ones, I was kicking myself, mostly saying how the eff am I going to get 'em out... But I heard cutting em doesn't really do too much to em... maybe yield less??? We will see(hopefully)!!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387235 - 01/08/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said:
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NOTFALL3N said: Lol I fruit my cakes a room temp and my room temp is 68 degrees lol I have great yields and usually see pins in 4 days on another note I don't think the temp is the biggest problem in this grow it started off horrible but anywho good luck op and just start ur next set of jars now and pray for these o yea and buy the right size jars! Peace.
Lol I got the right ones now!! Going to start on em one of these days... Once I found out I got wrong ones, I was kicking myself, mostly saying how the eff am I going to get 'em out... But I heard cutting em doesn't really do too much to em... maybe yield less??? We will see(hopefully)!!
fixed mist directly with a fine mist
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387236 - 01/08/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Well since u cut them out I would have spawned them to bulk coir or somethin if I where to fruit as a cake I would have broke the jar they were the wrong size anyhow.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387244 - 01/08/14 10:21 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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How the fuck are u fixing ppls post I want to do this it seems like such a dick move but I wanna do it lol.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387250 - 01/08/14 10:22 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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 there's an S with a line through it at the top of the post box, highlight the word and hit it lol
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387251 - 01/08/14 10:22 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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NOTFALL3N said: I don't see no pins in ur pics so misting direct using goin to hurt I would just let mist fall onto cakes once u have some pins and mist and fan like a mad man mist 3 to 4 times a day an fan 5 to 6 if u have the time evaporation is a huge pinning trigger I and what type of light are u useing!
I have a 17w T8 6500k fluorescent bulb on it for 12hr on and 12 hr off. I will start letting mist fall on it and not spray directly. I think thats what the problem was.. I was going heavy man.....
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387254 - 01/08/14 10:23 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Rofl, hes pretty damn good at it!!!!!!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387267 - 01/08/14 10:26 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Yea cronic is the man anyhow u can mist direct until pins just make sure u fan the shit out of them u need to start the evaporation.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387276 - 01/08/14 10:28 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said: Rofl, hes pretty damn goodgreat at it!!!!!!
Lol
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387289 - 01/08/14 10:30 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387326 - 01/08/14 10:37 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said: Rofl, hes pretty damn good at it!!!!!!
I'm going to be making outlet and outlet cover plates painted like your avatar start appearing at various houses
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387338 - 01/08/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said: Rofl, hes pretty damn goodgreat at it!!!!!!
Lol
Oh NO, cronicr, u created a monster!!! lol
I will deff try all the new stuff on the cakes... and will let u guys know how it works out. Give it a few days!! Thanks for all the help!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387342 - 01/08/14 10:42 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19387349 - 01/08/14 10:43 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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ToobyNT said: Rofl, hes pretty damn good at it!!!!!!
I'm going to be making outlet and outlet cover plates painted like your avatar start appearing at various houses
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bodhisatta said:
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ToobyNT said: Rofl, hes pretty damn good at it!!!!!!
I'm going to be making outlet and outlet cover plates painted like your avatar start appearing at various houses
ROFL, If I start seeing em, I know your around!!! LOL
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387426 - 01/08/14 10:59 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I yea watch for standing water on the man size piece o tinfoil u got under there u need to trim that up a bit next time.
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ToobyNT said: I think with lower temps, they have slower growth??
Not true at all
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19387556 - 01/08/14 11:25 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: spacechildo]
#19387726 - 01/08/14 11:49 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: PussyFart]
#19387989 - 01/08/14 12:37 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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ToobyNT said: I think with lower temps, they have slower growth??
Not true at all

Lol it's information like that, that confused noobs like me... I know heat is a huge factor in making the cultivation jars happen faster.. But normal room temp is ok for fruiting I understand correctly!! I even cultivated my jars at room temp so it took forever.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19387996 - 01/08/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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ToobyNT said: I think with lower temps, they have slower growth??
Not true at all

Lol it's information like that, that confused noobs like me... I know heat is a huge factor in making the cultivation jars happen faster.. But normal room temp is okGREAT for fruiting I understand correctly!! I even cultivated my jars at room temp so it took forever.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19389630 - 01/08/14 05:47 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Sooooo I feel they gonna go crazy with pins when I get home from work.... Hahahaha wishful thinking. I feel like that everyday haha
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19389651 - 01/08/14 05:51 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19389666 - 01/08/14 05:53 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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When u get home start some more jars ASAP u should get a nice tip off those pieces but nothin to brag about prob. They have been under some major stress already but start working on ur next grow so that ur not disappointed and I do every thing at room temp colonize to fruiting cube make every thing work! Lol
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19390290 - 01/08/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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NOTFALL3N said: When u get home start some more jars ASAP u should get a nice tip off those pieces but nothin to brag about prob. They have been under some major stress already but start working on ur next grow so that ur not disappointed and I do every thing at room temp colonize to fruiting cube make every thing work! Lol
So I need to take a piece of the mycelium and put in the new jars... I still have more spores in syringe.. add those too or just spores?? Or both!?!?!?
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390323 - 01/08/14 08:03 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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NOTFALL3N said: When u get home start some more jars ASAP u should get a nice tip off those pieces but nothin to brag about prob. They have been under some major stress already but start working on ur next grow so that ur not disappointed and I do every thing at room temp colonize to fruiting cube make every thing work! Lol
So I need toSHOULDN'T take a piece of the mycelium and put in the new jars... I still have more spores in syringe.. add those too orI SHOULD just USE spores?? Or both!?!?!?
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390335 - 01/08/14 08:06 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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NOTFALL3N said: When u get home start some more jars ASAP u should get a nice tip off those pieces but nothin to brag about prob. They have been under some major stress already but start working on ur next grow so that ur not disappointed and I do every thing at room temp colonize to fruiting cube make every thing work! Lol
So I need toSHOULDN'T take a piece of the mycelium and put in the new jars... I still have more spores in syringe.. add those too orI SHOULD just USE spores?? Or both!?!?!?

I misunderstood at first ,hahaha. My B!!!! I will make some more jars tonight.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390341 - 01/08/14 08:07 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390460 - 01/08/14 08:29 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Thank cronic that was almost bad lol yea just shoot up some more jars up!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19390677 - 01/08/14 09:17 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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NOTFALL3N said: Thank cronic that was almost bad lol yea just shoot up some more jars up!
Yeah that was almost bad!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I woulda murdered the cakes! Can't you do that tho????
I got my 5 jars sterilizing now!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390687 - 01/08/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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with proper technique yes, that means the right filters and a flowhood or carefully in a sab, but i wouldn't reccomend it
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390709 - 01/08/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Yeah, it does seem risky with contams.
So are u pro with your cakes now?? U play with the poo cakes yet??
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390716 - 01/08/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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for pans i sure have
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390740 - 01/08/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Thats awesome. What experience would u say is easier???
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390758 - 01/08/14 09:34 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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i am afraid i don't know what your asking! but poo cakes should only be done with pans and pans i find no harder then cubes to grow
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390790 - 01/08/14 09:40 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Lol I guess I worded it weird... But thats the answer I was looking for, just comparing on growing em.
So question..... I hear this cake 'bruising'.. I wonder if thats what my other cakes were doing since they weren't getting enough water. I didnt dunk em either, it was before I found out about the dunk and roll. Can u usually save em?? They are long gone anyhow, but just wondering.
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390813 - 01/08/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I had those first two cakes in a I guess you would call it a 'monotub'.. I purchased a ultrasonic mist maker, and had that for the humidity and had big holes in it to circulate air around the tub. And I had a real sucky hygrometer, to where it only got up to 80% when U could tell it was 100%... I kinda gave up after seeing that 'bruising'. And the cakes collected a lot of water beads on it from the other humidifier I had hooked up to the tub, and I thought that was bad at the time... I had the humidifier hooked up to it to help get it to the appropriate % of humidity.
But thats when I decided to do it right on these other two cakes. With the shotgun chamber and new hygrometer that is currently at the proper 95% humidity. lol
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390836 - 01/08/14 09:54 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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yeah there usually able to save with a dunk
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390863 - 01/08/14 10:00 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Dang, poor cakes. Could've been saved!! Well, I'm sure to have better luck on this second batch.
I've been misting the perlite well enough but (lightly)misting and letting the mist fall down on the cakes and not letting it go crazy and build up like it was. Lot more fanning now too!
You've had pins up in 2 days after fruiting???
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390876 - 01/08/14 10:03 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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 also had them before i put them into fruiting
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390918 - 01/08/14 10:12 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Hahahaha, that is nice!! I've seen the pics with the pins where they start forming in the jars. Is it that they are exposed to light?? That would seem it would be easy to start growing at that point, eh!!!
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390942 - 01/08/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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not from light more less it's either the cake has consolidated(shrunk)leaving a perffect microclimate or sometimes contams do it
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19390962 - 01/08/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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So u just get lucky when that happens??
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19390983 - 01/08/14 10:24 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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in cakes i wouldn't say it's lucky lol, not a bad thing but it makes it a bitch to birth
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19391014 - 01/08/14 10:33 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Ahh I see. I would think it would help out... well in my situation it would be better than what I got..
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: ToobyNT]
#19391029 - 01/08/14 10:37 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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it's not a bad thing if you get it early enough but itend not to look at my shit for days on end lol, come back to 2 inch pins inside
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Re: Advice on fruiting cakes... [Re: cronicr]
#19391048 - 01/08/14 10:44 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Oh wow, lol. Yeah I hear ya.
Well, timer just went off for the jars to be done sterilizing.. So I will inject tomorrow when they are cooled down. I'm just glad I'll be able to get the cakes out once done! (Since I have the right size jars now)
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