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All the crazy guys who thought they are god.
    #19385413 - 01/07/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Craziness huh?

Would it suck if god is crazy?

But does it matter?

What if God likes to laugh and everything is a joke to him, even life. =-/

No one really wants to be god, and they cant anyways.

Anyways how to put it nicely, don't fuck with god. ^.^


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19385487 - 01/07/14 10:15 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

:singletear:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: hmmn]
    #19385515 - 01/07/14 10:21 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

What if you are god, what if we all are god? What if consciousness it's self is but a shard of god?
What if speaking of god was unknowingly self-referential. What if nearly everyones concept of god was utterly wrong.

What if god worships humans?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19385576 - 01/07/14 10:34 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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teknix said:
Craziness huh?

Would it suck if god is crazy?

But does it matter?


^.^





It matters to me.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19385596 - 01/07/14 10:38 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
What if you are god, what if we all are god? What if consciousness it's self is but a shard of god?
What if speaking of god was unknowingly self-referential. What if nearly everyones concept of god was utterly wrong.

What if god worships humans?




Exactly, We are all god.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19385603 - 01/07/14 10:40 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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Quote:

teknix said:
Craziness huh?

Would it suck if god is crazy?

But does it matter?


^.^





It matters to me.




In what way? lol.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl] * 5
    #19385613 - 01/07/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

what if :ancientaliens:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: FrozenHappiness] * 1
    #19385617 - 01/07/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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what if :ancientaliens:





:woooaaahhh:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19385624 - 01/07/14 10:44 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

I need some sleep, you guys are crazy.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19385628 - 01/07/14 10:45 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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I need some sleep, you guys are crazy.



Although you do need sleep, I have to disagree with the latter.

'Cause, you crazy. :awesomenod:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19385692 - 01/07/14 10:56 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Anyways, the post is intended as philosophical, and I don't really think I am god.

Good night.



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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19385782 - 01/07/14 11:17 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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teknix said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

teknix said:
Craziness huh?

Would it suck if god is crazy?

But does it matter?


^.^





It matters to me.




In what way? lol.




Don't like crazy.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19386392 - 01/08/14 02:52 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

piece of chicken don't fuck with freedom rights and true existing needs

god is the liar who force all to his possession, daring asking any to give him all his property rights .. inventing how true individuals can be called slaves consciously done by him

how can a human fuck with god anyways or fuck him in real ??? while what is a human being but that ... completely fucked by supernatural powers of god on his body relative reality rights and self mind freedom rights

when god is what exist on the expenses of everything else existence rights then god do not exist in truth, then fucking him is a pleasure to him like everything he invents of lies possibilities


that is how god is what invent that fucking is nice

the one who enjoy getting fucked for the pleasure of fucking everything rights as the positive end
that is why god hates women, because males so present abilities can fall for them.. when his pleasure is dependent on getting all present positive means

that is why god hates to fuck women for what he hates what he sees them useless.. and what he invents virgin mother to mean always men fuck

don't fuck with god ??? what is god other then fucked fucker 

it is known what satan powers and force is from fucking god in heaven with his big dick right in god ass

that is how god become creative by getting fucked

that is why he means for future, or what conscious beings are useful to him by fucking him so he can enjoy inventing his superiority as if it is real .. like what god now is forcing hostility to him because he wants to get fucked, his dose to move his ass and sit on more new existing values to force down, openly

that is why god loves words... because words exhibit the death of values and are all to one present never to anything else so never to truth existence fact

that is why women that surrender to god powers, are who fake enjoying being fucked like him.. as if by being fucked you become positively energized to move its ass happy .. as inflatable living puppet



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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19389793 - 01/08/14 06:12 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

You can't really fuck with god, but that doesn't stop people from trying. heh.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19391351 - 01/09/14 12:06 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

mortal individual bodies conscious are never able of doing anything .. so claiming that they try to fuck with what is beyond all their conditions of being .. is surely a lie to hide what their condition is for god pleasure to fuck freely endlessly conscious helpless beings


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19392848 - 01/09/14 09:44 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Whatever you say . . .


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19393277 - 01/09/14 11:29 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

What exactly did he say?:confused:


:lol:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19393325 - 01/09/14 11:39 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

In short, he's saying that god is a sort of cosmic rapist; that we conscious beings are helpless blow-up-dolls created for the sole purpose of taking the big divine shlong.
Interesting theory, intriguing conclusion.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19393429 - 01/09/14 12:05 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

it is funny how the liar believe himself .. as if really no one can read my posts .. they keep expecting what the conspiracy theory could be everything or to possibly lean on what all can be really only through one will they know.. as if going with the force is getting it all..

it is like a fancy they enjoy a kind of the same idea the absence of else or truth, so existence perspective would be pointed of whatever useful to them..

and all real values and superior senses could be cut off .. so whatever anyone got is forever more over everyone else

it doesn't matter.. one is to worse ends anyways

thank you Timethyl.. almost everyone in forums prefer to watch the obvious fake reactions and interactions with my posts :cool:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19393448 - 01/09/14 12:11 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

one with god if we chose to :-)


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19393537 - 01/09/14 12:31 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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In short, he's saying that god is a sort of cosmic rapist; that we conscious beings are helpless blow-up-dolls created for the sole purpose of taking the big divine shlong.
Interesting theory, intriguing conclusion.




OK thanks.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols] * 1
    #19393551 - 01/09/14 12:34 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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it is funny how the liar believe himself .. as if really no one can read my posts .. they keep expecting what the conspiracy theory could be everything or to possibly lean on what all can be really only through one will they know.. as if going with the force is getting it all..

it is like a fancy they enjoy a kind of the same idea the absence of else or truth, so existence perspective would be pointed of whatever useful to them..

and all real values and superior senses could be cut off .. so whatever anyone got is forever more over everyone else

it doesn't matter.. one is to worse ends anyways

thank you Timethyl.. almost everyone in forums prefer to watch the obvious fake reactions and interactions with my posts :cool:





The fact is that most if not all are mostly guessing at your meanings because of the way you butcher your sentences.

  Keep on believing we're all out to get  you.  You're not that important however. :imspecial:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19393566 - 01/09/14 12:38 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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The fact is that most if not all are mostly guessing at your meanings because of the way you butcher your sentences.

  Keep on believing we're all out to get  you.  You're not that important however. :imspecial:




Damn that guy hasn't been banned yet? :lol: put his ass on ignore at least a month ago


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19393570 - 01/09/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

The mental picture of you writing "OK thanks" with a completely straight 'business-as-usual' face made me lol. :stoned:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: lessismore]
    #19393580 - 01/09/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

this is what i said, you are one force

but it is not all and of course evil, truth and existence is only from else value.. that is why true freedom is absolute superiority of being else

but it is funny how you invent god to claim being one too with..

how do you choose what is not existing ?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19393677 - 01/09/14 01:12 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

i never said that i could think that anyone is after me .. nor that i am important to anybody else or everything ..

it doesn't matter at all to me, but twisting facts to invent some lies about others .. is yourself business like a lot do against good or right persons in general especially in difficult times of life like now with all what is happening in the world .. when life is known being from killing others

it is funny that creepy mentality, what invent victims glory only to justify crimes ..

why don't you use yourself to invent some stories about being important or that all want to get you ?? .. it is incredible all such insisting nonsense way to talk to me when it is clearly only about you here

while anyone true is never special like you keep repeating about you, nor important like you keep using to put others down .. anyone true is exclusively him so everything that matter to him of course

keep on belittle anyone right to please religious spiritual force life.. you are right it is time to think about your sources and show your colors clearly


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19393697 - 01/09/14 01:21 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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this is what i said, you are one force

but it is not all and of course evil, truth and existence is only from else value.. that is why true freedom is absolute superiority of being else

but it is funny how you invent god to claim being one too with..

how do you choose what is not existing ?





I like this and though the wording is eccentric, it's brilliant.
Just as Icelander signature, " So, there is a complete surrender -- a total abandonment -- of the desire to be other than what we already are"
This much can be concluded, you are what you are right now. Live in the present moment!
This resonates much with Buddhism, and Plato.
However when I say I'm "one" I mean with everything; not necessarily with god.

I think Absols means well but he/she is commonly misinterpreted.
Where are you from Absol?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19393782 - 01/09/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

realizing you are god and everyone you see is god too is good

but did it change your actions?
or did you go back to precisely who you were before

if everyone on earth realized they are god, the world wouldnt change
because 95% would go back to how they used to live

on the other hand, it is the diversity that drives us it seems
if we were all god, it might be boring, would be boring to interact with each other

even if you go back to how you used to live, you will be forever changed still
from having that self-reflection experience


if god is everything there is, then you are god
if you create your reality, then you are god in terms of your reality
and in a few more ways, god is just a word, but to some people more than that
the only interesting thing is, only philosophy or did it change your lifestyle ?:-)

a lot of people become buddhists after experiencing oneness i.e., start meditating etc.

I could never imagine going back to my old self, only the same job, but I would never live as I lived before I realized oneness
but it wasnt so much oneness that was lifechanging for me, always felt that in some way I think, more realizing my spirituality that I had completely forgotten
almost feel disgusted by my old self, but I realize it was useful to getting where I am now :-)


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19393800 - 01/09/14 01:51 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I like this and though the wording is eccentric, it's brilliant.
Just as Icelander signature, " So, there is a complete surrender -- a total abandonment -- of the desire to be other than what we already are"
This much can be concluded, you are what you are right now. Live in the present moment!
This resonates much with Buddhism, and Plato.
However when I say I'm "one" I mean with everything; not necessarily with god.

I think Absols means well but he/she is commonly misinterpreted.
Where are you from Absol?




it is funny how you insist to use my words for yours .. why do you mean to do that ??
first it is my post so my own means .. your posts are yours

second, why it has to mean well .. no one is a source of another or of reality .. it is never about meaning well or not well nor meaning bad

it is just the pleasure to post .. like everyone else

third, my post is what it says.. what you say has nothing to do with it

i didnt say anything about the present, i just said that one is evil and force is opportunist nature opposition to truth

that existence is exclusively through else value, the reason of true freedom superiority

so you see, it has nothing to do with what you are saying

being one to me is the print of evil
that is my opinion clearly

one is to worse end for sure

existence is only else value that is how it is true
when existence is by definition true


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19393925 - 01/09/14 02:24 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I didn't take your words or even manipulate them,  its a point/counter-point remark. :lol:
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19394364 - 01/09/14 03:58 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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What exactly did he say?:confused:


:lol:




and stop mentioning me as if I am a guy

you know very well that I am a woman as I said it many times

give up yourself to whoever you want !


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19394422 - 01/09/14 04:14 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
Quote:

absols said:
this is what i said, you are one force

but it is not all and of course evil, truth and existence is only from else value.. that is why true freedom is absolute superiority of being else

but it is funny how you invent god to claim being one too with..

how do you choose what is not existing ?





I like this and though the wording is eccentric, it's brilliant.
Just as Icelander signature, " So, there is a complete surrender -- a total abandonment -- of the desire to be other than what we already are"
This much can be concluded, you are what you are right now. Live in the present moment!
This resonates much with Buddhism, and Plato.
However when I say I'm "one" I mean with everything; not necessarily with god.

I think Absols means well but he/she is commonly misinterpreted.
Where are you from Absol?



He's a brother from another planet.

Believe it or not I'm taking a break from that movie to post right now.:lol:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19394433 - 01/09/14 04:17 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I am not from another planet nor that I am a bro

I am like any other woman of the world, nothing more


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19394492 - 01/09/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

If you investigate the circumstance you are in enough you will eventually find it is a simulation of some kind and you are a divinity, a manifestation of the supreme being.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19394599 - 01/09/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

no this is about you, and yourself.. but not me at all

I always lived my life alone as I am now .. you enjoy thinking playing some roles for gods like animals .. what supreme being when you are a simulation .. how a supreme being would enjoy using a human body and a miserable conscious right ??? it is the opposite of course


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19394703 - 01/09/14 05:14 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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If you investigate the circumstance you are in enough you will eventually find it is a simulation of some kind and you are a divinity, a manifestation of the supreme being.



This seems to be similar the understandings I sometimes pull from the womb of nothingness on my heaviest most profound psychedelic experiences, and somewhat through meditation.
Simulation is a good word, but it doesn't seem like a digital/cyber simulation such as in The Matrix, it seems more complex.
Sometimes I see myself in a mirror and it's a weird feeling, like I am not that person I'm looking at.
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19394743 - 01/09/14 05:22 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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mortal individual bodies conscious are never able of doing anything ..





Absols, where do you get this idea from? Are you saying that no mortals can do anything?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19394758 - 01/09/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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this is what i said, you are one force

but it is not all and of course evil, truth and existence is only from else value.. that is why true freedom is absolute superiority of being else

but it is funny how you invent god to claim being one too with..

how do you choose what is not existing ?




How do you define god absols? Are you the only one that is allowed a definition, and your definition is to reign superior over everyones? You don't understand how much of reality is relative and subjective imo.

I read what you're saying, and to me it seems like you are fooling yourself into believing you have some absolute truth that no one else understands, and they are stupid for not understanding. Have you considered that maybe you are the one that is trying to not understand what others are saying, in favor of your personal beliefs?

You say what is evil, but it only depends on your personal beliefs and subjective reality, as most things that are considered as evil depend upon.

What is evil is generally what the majority of the people find disdainful, in violation of others rights, or harmful.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19394802 - 01/09/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Just like pot and alcohol was once considered evil, yet now it is not, so which one is it and how do you know?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19394975 - 01/09/14 05:57 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I am not from another planet nor that I am a bro

I am like any other woman of the world, nothing more





OK gf.  Keep your sense of humor. It may be all you have one day.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19395181 - 01/09/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I think the quote is something like.... if you see yourself on one side of the fence, and another on the other side of the fence... if you tried or could to see through their interpretation/eyes... you just might find yourself on the same side of the fence.

not quite but something like that...


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Sse]
    #19395371 - 01/09/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:thumbup:

Perspective you have.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19395434 - 01/09/14 07:11 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

to be fair most of them are adopted... I guess I often find myself on the side of other's fences

"thanks to all the beings who brought us this food" something like that hehe


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Sse]
    #19396226 - 01/09/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

However humble you may be, no one can choose a universal perspective for you.



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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19397272 - 01/10/14 04:25 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

why are you asking me anything when you admit that I am a subjective opinion about everything like everyone else does

there is no absolute truth at all, but anyone is free to claim what is positively true for him

while edges are always obvious things ..

to me one so the absence of else is the major reason of negative source and opposition force to positive rights and facts

while the objective recognition of else existence is always the print of absolute superiority that always end in being positive present right

you don't see those edges .. it is not my problem .. nor that what I am saying here concern me in anything

i don't give myself the right to give my opinions about everything but regarding what others are saying wrong to me
so what i consider how i can say something objectively absolutely better in positive value

speculations for better abstractions is the conscious function activity on a regular present basics of being

positive is all means, so the absolute free fact .. proven by life sense

your ways of meaning everything are totally different to mine, i don't make business with things .. nor that i care about any end

to me any individual is only himself so nothing to everything and totally else as a unique fact and possible value


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19397314 - 01/10/14 04:51 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Icelander said:
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absols said:
I am not from another planet nor that I am a bro

I am like any other woman of the world, nothing more





OK gf.  Keep your sense of humor. It may be all you have one day.




again talk for yourself ! i don't have any sense of humor to keep it anyways .. that is your story not mine

and being a woman don't make me your girl friend on the contrary !

your individual fact would be the only thing left for you one day, while the respect of else individuality is never something that could be teached

it is far better guess about your future then yours about me

but it shows how for you the present is a lie so you can say all ends as something you know

what is funny is to see your delusions of now.. humor by definition is in the present only
so pointing humor for an end show that you lie.. and you cant be even a funny guy

denying that present exist especially with  all monstruosities and crimes happening now in the world against objective values and individual rights,  show your true colors again

nothing to do with humor at all


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19397410 - 01/10/14 05:41 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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this is what i said, you are one force

but it is not all and of course evil, truth and existence is only from else value.. that is why true freedom is absolute superiority of being else

but it is funny how you invent god to claim being one too with..

how do you choose what is not existing ?




I read what you're saying




obviously you don't read what is clearly said

i said, it cant be all, else exist too

so it is you who insist to generalize your means as being the exclusive fact

while me clearly believe in else being always more right


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19397434 - 01/10/14 05:53 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I am a deity.. but I seek not to be worshipped..


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    #19397469 - 01/10/14 06:16 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

you are not a deity in anyway .. you are a mortal conscious being that cannot be a source of anything at all

the exclusive value of being conscious is what it has no other way but to be true in order to be positive .. so what conscious beings would support objective rights by recognizing existing facts being free, so not from anyone's will or power ..

what is weird, is what most of conscious beings cant respect their own selves value, while a lot find a way to confuse themselves with powerful entities by the fanciful idea that they could be representing them or their images through their bodies ways of being constant


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397525 - 01/10/14 06:43 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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absols said:
Quote:

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absols said:
I am not from another planet nor that I am a bro

I am like any other woman of the world, nothing more





OK gf.  Keep your sense of humor. It may be all you have one day.




again talk for yourself ! i don't have any sense of humor to keep it anyways .. that is your story not mine

and being a woman don't make me your girl friend on the contrary !

your individual fact would be the only thing left for you one day, while the respect of else individuality is never something that could be teached

it is far better guess about your future then yours about me

but it shows how for you the present is a lie so you can say all ends as something you know

what is funny is to see your delusions of now.. humor by definition is in the present only
so pointing humor for an end show that you lie.. and you cant be even a funny guy

denying that present exist especially with  all monstruosities and crimes happening now in the world against objective values and individual rights,  show your true colors again

nothing to do with humor at all



Serious question here.  Is English your first language?


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    #19397689 - 01/10/14 07:39 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

of course not and that is obvious .. so it says what serious is to you !

English is the most objective positive language which is confirmed by what English is the best communication tool international wise ... to me, English is the world language, and not a nation property

although I never studied English really even as a second language, as in france English is a very minor course, exactly what second language is in American schools

to you obviously, you found interest in what others say

to me any other sentences or words is all to himself value alone, true freedom right values

you should trust google search more, you can find informations about everything you want in the easiest and the most suitable forms to yourself kind of pleasure in reading something interesting ..


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397773 - 01/10/14 08:05 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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of course not and that is obvious .. so it says what serious is to you !

English is the most objective positive language which is confirmed by what English is the best communication tool international wise ... to me, English is the world language, and not a nation property

although I never studied English really even as a second language, as in france English is a very minor course, exactly what second language is in American schools

to you obviously, you found interest in what others say

to me any other sentences or words is all to himself value alone, true freedom right values

you should trust google search more, you can find informations about everything you want in the easiest and the most suitable forms to yourself kind of pleasure in reading something interesting ..



?:thisisheavyman:I'm just not sure how to respond to that...Okay.:shrug:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397907 - 01/10/14 08:57 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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why are you asking me anything when you admit that I am a subjective opinion about everything like everyone else does

there is no absolute truth at all, but anyone is free to claim what is positively true for him

while edges are always obvious things ..

to me one so the absence of else is the major reason of negative source and opposition force to positive rights and facts

while the objective recognition of else existence is always the print of absolute superiority that always end in being positive present right

you don't see those edges .. it is not my problem .. nor that what I am saying here concern me in anything

i don't give myself the right to give my opinions about everything but regarding what others are saying wrong to me
so what i consider how i can say something objectively absolutely better in positive value

speculations for better abstractions is the conscious function activity on a regular present basics of being

positive is all means, so the absolute free fact .. proven by life sense

your ways of meaning everything are totally different to mine, i don't make business with things .. nor that i care about any end

to me any individual is only himself so nothing to everything and totally else as a unique fact and possible value




I am asking because you are obviously presenting your opinion, and being a conscious being I like to try to consider your angle without preconceived notions or bias. Yes, you are free to claim whatever perspective you want, I am just looking for the rationalization or reason for the chosen perspective. That is sort of the purpose of these forums, to rationalize our reasoning, and possibly even discard beliefs that are possibly instilled into us, rather than actually concluded by us. This isn't to say that logic is the epitome of knowing, only to say that it is apparently the best way to present the knowing to others.

So if you don't like how things are, and would prefer them to be different, how do you go about explaining it in a manner that others would understand, to bring about the changes you seek and desire, without rationality and reasoning? Sure you can have your beliefs, but that doesn't make your beliefs rational or with good cause.

So if you want to get your point across, instead of simply stating your opinion, it may be better to explain why it is your opinion and how you came to the conclusion. Otherwise how are we to consider it?

How did you acquire a computer and the internet without doing business in some manner?

You never answered How do you define god?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397976 - 01/10/14 09:16 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Absols, what is "else being"? It may be clear to you, but I have no idea what you mean. I think you mean other beings?


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    #19398035 - 01/10/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

No you don't mean any of my posts .. you keep inventing how to make another write what you want ! which is impossible since you are a poster like anyone else here.. so you can apply your wishs to your posts

while i said clearly how to me any post is the writer himself, which has nothing to do with any objective fact

your ways to justify yourself are very weird .. i might have everything anyone has and still don't do any business
you are clearly suggesting that you cannot live comfortably without taking advantage of everything ..

being is a fact not something you created to be .. so whatever conscious being do is only normal thing of being states and needs

and whatever ones seek to fulfill their needs, it stays a relative thing that has nothing to do with what they might do freely in regular basis of being alive

anyway, you can ignore my posts .. and i might do the same .. whatever i write is to me .. you cannot ask me my reasons of writing this and this and how did i reached there .. this become myself business alone

while you should start to mind your own business instead of insisting to mind others or anything


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398069 - 01/10/14 09:39 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:awthatsbullshit:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398073 - 01/10/14 09:40 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I'm just trying to get you to present your case in a manner that is understandable, because I don't understand. For some reason you are ignoring the important questions that could elaborate upon your position. It makes it hard to take you serious.


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    #19398099 - 01/10/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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No you don't mean any of my posts .. you keep inventing how to make another write what you want ! which is impossible since you are a poster like anyone else here.. so you can apply your wishs to your posts

while i said clearly how to me any post is the writer himself, which has nothing to do with any objective fact

your ways to justify yourself are very weird .. i might have everything anyone has and still don't do any business
you are clearly suggesting that you cannot live comfortably without taking advantage of everything ..

being is a fact not something you created to be .. so whatever conscious being do is only normal thing of being states and needs

and whatever ones seek to fulfill their needs, it stays a relative thing that has nothing to do with what they might do freely in regular basis of being alive

anyway, you can ignore my posts .. and i might do the same .. whatever i write is to me .. you cannot ask me my reasons of writing this and this and how did i reached there .. this become myself business alone

while you should start to mind your own business instead of insisting to mind others or anything



Why do you post here?  Any time somebody comments on your posts, you passive aggressively argue some arbitrary point into the ground. 
Write a fucking diary, it would come off as alot less needy. :cookiemonster:


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    #19398199 - 01/10/14 10:09 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

say that to yourself.. who is the fucking aggressive here ??

besides, i always post on philosophy forums, and you can ignore my posts as i would that about you now 

it is amazing to what large extent all common sense seem reversed now

when you ask somebody about his own life or self, you should expect that right is against you and not what you might act as there is no one else but you and others must confirm it in  the name of gooooddd...

and needy yourself, when obviously you cant see the value of a forum but of what you might get from to your ego

forums are living realities of conscious states, it is a true present thing like everything


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398243 - 01/10/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

If you prefer to talk around people, rather than converse with people, it might be better to write a book, to avoid interaction and having to deal with others opinions. It seems like you are being defensive, do you feel threatened?

Why do you post here if you don't want to interact and discuss things?

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    #19398271 - 01/10/14 10:25 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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i am a real individual being and not a pretender of any knowledge or anything



You have an incredibly solipsist point of view.  It always interests me when I find people that go through life like that.  Fuck if your not right about nothing, nobody is. :lol:


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    #19398277 - 01/10/14 10:26 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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If you prefer to talk around people, rather than converse with people, it might be better to write a book, to avoid interaction and having to deal with others opinions. It seems like you are being defensive, do you feel threatened?

Why do you post here if you don't want to interact and discuss things?

Why did you choose the shroomery philosophy forums of all places?



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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398327 - 01/10/14 10:39 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I see you mention sometimes, unless I am mistaken, people using your words as theirs... twisting them up... projecting their thoughts onto what you say; misconstruing your meaning. It seems we can't help but do that sometimes... just how we are individually wired... our understandings will differ at times, bound to happen, words/sentences/intention aren't so clear cut always. A lot of our perceptions are erroneous, then we get ourselves in a heap of unintended and misconstrued entanglement.

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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19398334 - 01/10/14 10:40 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

true true, get in where you fit in :sun:


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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions."
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19398431 - 01/10/14 11:09 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

it is incredible how you mean to use others words for yourself pleasure  to label them of anything you want

i cant be solipsist in anyway ... when i repeat that everything is what exist .. and individuals conscious are freedom out of everything rights  so their posts are all to themselves possible values and not to any objective fact.. which makes me the opposite of solipsists ways for sure .. and you the solipsist one here .. since you are clearly meaning that everyone is everything that matter .. it is yourself existence, while only objective existence is the fact present without you

and why would you fuck that you are not right, or you are nothing ?? instead of accepting whatever you know being existing ??

on the contrary, to me, positive will is not the reason of being obviously

people in majority, exist and work because they have to and not because they enjoy it

while people who exist by enjoying themselves are usually pointed as being wrong


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398480 - 01/10/14 11:21 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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it is incredible how you mean to use others words for yourself pleasure  to label them of anything you want





unless I am mistaken again. Don't u do the same in some sense? don't we all? maybe not so much with the pleasure aspect... or maybe depending on how you're lookin at it. maybe happening even autonomously in a sense?

many of our perceptions are often incorrect or erroneous to a degree....  the individual conglomeration writes the story... especially when not so explicit.


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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions."
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19398595 - 01/10/14 11:48 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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If you prefer to talk around people, rather than converse with people, it might be better to write a book, to avoid interaction and having to deal with others opinions. It seems like you are being defensive, do you feel threatened?

Why do you post here if you don't want to interact and discuss things?

Why did you choose the shroomery philosophy forums of all places?




talking around people has nothing to do with writing .. i am not a writer ever.. why would i write a book ? for what and to say what ??

a human being is not being oneself .. so it is very healthy to talk around people in the right way to do so
unfortunately with such bad time of life for everyone, being in forums seem to be the way of being a human around the world now

i am living in Lebanon so am surrounded by serious negative conflicts politically by also having to watch the most  horrible scenes of wars

i am not defensive when i clearly justify objective rights too .. it is my ways of thinking always through rights
that is why maybe i don't mean to converse with others like you, because typing words are more to conscious activity so the way one think being, and not to social ways when we are talking to others live

internet activity don't involve but oneself alone .. that is why the result is interesting globally .. as it might look like alive

and of course i feel threatened and more even since i am not young.. but everyone will die anyway .. so it is not an issue for me, my issue is more my ways of not tolerating what you don't respect others freedom

in life too i am very respectful to others free ways and means, i don't deal with others but through realities they do or show

for me it is very wrong to ask someone something he never mention nor meant ..

i didn't choose shroomery forums particularly, i am almost banned of major forums and i like it here because i used to hang out with friends that take drugs when i was young, so i appreciate a lot of things i read here

and i post in philosophy forums, to me it sound right then to be a bit original especially here, in forum where people enjoy tripping .. you can take it that way instead of meaning anything seriously


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Sse]
    #19398711 - 01/10/14 12:10 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

ok you be god
I am napoleon


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398721 - 01/10/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Thanks for explaining and sharing. I feel like we are becoming closer. It seems like you may like the works of Aristotle, are you familiar with the Nicomachean Ethics?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19398722 - 01/10/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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What if you are god, what if we all are god? What if consciousness it's self is but a shard of god?
What if speaking of god was unknowingly self-referential. What if nearly everyones concept of god was utterly wrong.

What if god worships humans?




The big what if. I like to deal with certainty.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19398725 - 01/10/14 12:13 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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ok you be god
I am napoleon




Nice to meet you, looks like we may be fairly similar.

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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19398971 - 01/10/14 01:03 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

marco polo


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19399225 - 01/10/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Thanks for explaining and sharing. I feel like we are becoming closer. It seems like you may like the works of Aristotle, are you familiar with the Nicomachean Ethics?




I don't like Aristotle .. anyway true philosophy to me, is the individual so not an objective work.. while all those philosophers are dead now
some of them were certainly very interesting men

I am not a philosopher because I never question anything.. I like philosophical living questions only when it sounds true, so I enjoy thinking some answers straight ...

what matter to me is the result so the objective right constancy, to start from positive ends which leave no room to questions


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19399254 - 01/10/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

What about Kant's universal maxim and the categorical imperative?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19399271 - 01/10/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

It's this:

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Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.

β€”Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[12]






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Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means.

β€”Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[17]






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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19399327 - 01/10/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

i don't like ethics nor any limitation to objective means .. to me anything related to being objective must be supported in its freedom rights.. and individuals relations cant be but relatively objective so i deal with in the same ways ..

like what i said, how internet content seems being a living reality freely

and kant was religious while i am radically and fundamentally opposed to the concept of deity and the powers of absolute entities over existence freedom rights


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19399400 - 01/10/14 02:19 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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It's this:

Quote:



Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.

β€”Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[12]






Quote:


Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means.

β€”Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[17]






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics




i understand but disagree .. a human must act free and not limit himself to humanity .. humans are to conscious existence freedom rights and not to created condition meant to live consciously by some rules to generalize

objective rights is only what matter

like there could be only one thing right and then many things related to the same right would be absolutely positive reality because of that right being objective

while when objective fact is right, then necessarily present would be free so true existence values would be seen through individuals life and ways of beings


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19399626 - 01/10/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

absols writing is giving me a headache each time I read it :-)
cant interpret it, makes no sense

is English your native language absols?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: lessismore]
    #19400395 - 01/10/14 05:43 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I think it's a she but anyway if the posts are short I can sort of follow. She's no dummy imo but not worth deciphering unfortunately.  There's plenty of others here to play with and none of this is very important so...


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19400905 - 01/10/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Quote:

teknix said:
It's this:

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Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.

β€”Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[12]






Quote:


Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means.

β€”Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[17]






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics




i understand but disagree .. a human must act free and not limit himself to humanity .. humans are to conscious existence freedom rights and not to created condition meant to live consciously by some rules to generalize

objective rights is only what matter

like there could be only one thing right and then many things related to the same right would be absolutely positive reality because of that right being objective

while when objective fact is right, then necessarily present would be free so true existence values would be seen through individuals life and ways of beings




Acting free? Without consideration for others? So in your opinion is it OK to murder someone for no reason other than acting free? It seems like you state contradictory positions, at one point you are considering rights, but then you say only your rights matter and no one elses? If we are to consider others rights as well as our own, is that limiting or liberating? If you are considering others rights equally to your own, then you are basically agreeing with Kant.

I don't think you really understand what it is saying.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19401301 - 01/10/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
ok you be god
I am napoleon




Nice to meet you, looks like we may be fairly similar.

:lol:





gertdern power predominates

only solutions :sun:



conflict an illusion?

Lyrics: Does man rule by his will
To choose how he lives
Are forces behind him
Pushing him still
Confusion - it's so clear
Illusion - here and there

Raven, hawk and the dove
Soar looking down from above
Evil, war and love
Which will alight on this world

A world full of conflict
Time patiently waits
Emotions directing
The choices he makes
Confusion - it's so clear
Illusion - here and there

Forces of the universe, taking aim
Spirit's eye, from on high, man is game

:whathesaid:

sounds an awful lot like me

true story


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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions."
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19401590 - 01/10/14 11:10 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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If you investigate the circumstance you are in enough you will eventually find it is a simulation of some kind and you are a divinity, a manifestation of the supreme being.



This seems to be similar the understandings I sometimes pull from the womb of nothingness on my heaviest most profound psychedelic experiences, and somewhat through meditation.
Simulation is a good word, but it doesn't seem like a digital/cyber simulation such as in The Matrix, it seems more complex.
Sometimes I see myself in a mirror and it's a weird feeling, like I am not that person I'm looking at.
It's always a gift to read your posts Circastes.




A gift!? Those are kind words. I tend to think posts of mine over a year old are generally just great examples of thought disorders, but lately I've been a lot more clear.

Interesting that you have that feeling about the mirror... reminds me of myself big time.

I say simulation because it is some kind of intellectual construct, it is not a physical universe. And coming out of body or having OBE-type experiences in the middle of the night I find there to be design and teleology everywhere. Why am I being fear tested before I leave my body? To prove I am sincere enough to want to explore this other dimension? Bizarre...


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19401679 - 01/10/14 11:34 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

The universe is god.  The universe is made of consciousness.  Consciousness is god.  You are conscious.  You are god.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: greenterror]
    #19401969 - 01/11/14 12:54 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Would it be more adequate to say that you are a part of god rather than god?

I like that train of thought though.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19402157 - 01/11/14 02:48 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

There is only one self.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19402184 - 01/11/14 03:01 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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There is only one self.



Infinite, alternate universes? The fact that people change, in every way, over time.. thus die with each expereance.... and reborn an other person..


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icyus]
    #19402233 - 01/11/14 03:33 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I don't discount that by saying there is only one self. It's just a fact of experience. First you should inquire who you are, and you will find by knowing yourself, and the simultaneous act by 'an other' in knowing themselves, that if you meet your gazes properly you will find you both came to recognise the same self in your inquiry. It's not really a mystical thing, although there is nothing really ordinary about being the supreme being - since who else could this one self be?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19402252 - 01/11/14 03:47 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Acting free? Without consideration for others? So in your opinion is it OK to murder someone for no reason other than acting free? It seems like you state contradictory positions, at one point you are considering rights, but then you say only your rights matter and no one elses? If we are to consider others rights as well as our own, is that limiting or liberating? If you are considering others rights equally to your own, then you are basically agreeing with Kant.

I don't think you really understand what it is saying.




so you understand and not me, right ??

because to you right is a gift, right ??

so everyone must be right and it is true ???

why ?? because, if everyone is not right, wrong will exist ????

so we must generalize wrong in depth by conceiving right in form, from you right??? or the dead kant ??? to avoid wrong one being shown of his intent ????

it is you who don't know anything ...

how things are shown according to you ?? is freedom individually or not ??? if freedom is individually how can it realize objective things reality ??? or it is impossible ???


I keep telling you, freedom and objective reality are totally different dimensions ... that is how liars are the best leaders .. and things are livings because fake .. inherently from creations way of abusing truth knowledge for positive possession

you didn't understand what I just wrote for sure .. it doesn't matter

what matter here to me, is my opinion right, you are wrong in insulting me, because I disagree with what a dead philosopher said ...

I proved how it is you the self contradicting actor of anything ... and how all your means are for god through picking any excuses of deads claiming it being right sciences to support now of you ??? which is absurd, when you cant defend your god  the everything and everyone  conscious existence by any real living being fact and of you !

which prove that you know, how god is only existence knowledge abuse

like any leader of the world

the vice is your belief.. everyone is not the you willing to possess positive existence .. positive existence is what exist not possessing it !



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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19402700 - 01/11/14 07:56 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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I don't discount that by saying there is only one self. It's just a fact of experience. First you should inquire who you are, and you will find by knowing yourself, and the simultaneous act by 'an other' in knowing themselves, that if you meet your gazes properly you will find you both came to recognise the same self in your inquiry. It's not really a mystical thing, although there is nothing really ordinary about being the supreme being - since who else could this one self be?




How about an emergent property of brain function? :monkeydance:

You do go on and on about shit you have no evidence for and you proclaim it like it's natural law.  But imo you are fos.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19403019 - 01/11/14 10:05 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

In observing natural law, your angle may not provide the same perspective as mine.
But if we consolidate views, circastes is not making very many errors and may closely approximate a consensual description if such a thing were possible.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19403033 - 01/11/14 10:10 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Indeed.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19403190 - 01/11/14 10:47 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

one love one soul

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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: lessismore]
    #19403286 - 01/11/14 11:08 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

you are a soul more then being somebody obviously ! how could the existence of a soul being true or just one ?? no ways .. soul is by definition fake living individuality in being positive through powers of beings wills creations ends

that is why, the more an individual love god and life the more he is a soul .. the more an individual like atheists don't enjoy the sense of god the more they are free beings means .. which are targeted to get killed .. but it is impossible

god by meaning to support fake beings conscious saw for sure that all positive conscious created would want to be like him and not what he wants them to be
because truth exist, so everything is seen.. so the creator is known being a business entity of knowledge so the free will would see how it is the only positive possible other then truth

so how satan actually revealed being god existence one identity more then god freedom

existence is true, never a dream .. dreamers are who knows that creations are abusive to true existence facts
like how rich people usually behave with less fortunate, forcing ownerships of the place

that is why any true freedom would walk exclusively by recognizing else facts in truth of being .. by that, any individuality is through being real then only 








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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19403308 - 01/11/14 11:12 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Man your writing warps my mind.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19403341 - 01/11/14 11:20 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

ochh, don't encourage him


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19403374 - 01/11/14 11:29 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

That's a bad warp.  Like I can't decipher or wrap my mind around anything being said.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19403900 - 01/11/14 01:33 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I knew it was hypocrite that is why I didn't reply
man my ass  :cuteshit:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19403950 - 01/11/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

:devito:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19403979 - 01/11/14 01:54 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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absols said:
why are you asking me anything when you admit that I am a subjective opinion about everything like everyone else does

there is no absolute truth at all, but anyone is free to claim what is positively true for him

while edges are always obvious things ..

to me one so the absence of else is the major reason of negative source and opposition force to positive rights and facts

while the objective recognition of else existence is always the print of absolute superiority that always end in being positive present right



you don't see those edges .. it is not my problem .. nor that what I am saying here concern me in anything

i don't give myself the right to give my opinions about everything but regarding what others are saying wrong to me
so what i consider how i can say something objectively absolutely better in positive value

speculations for better abstractions is the conscious function activity on a regular present basics of being

positive is all means, so the absolute free fact .. proven by life sense

your ways of meaning everything are totally different to mine, i don't make business with things .. nor that i care about any end

to me any individual is only himself so nothing to everything and totally else as a unique fact and possible value


..

It uses big words and can spell quite well....but it puts these words together in a very strange way. Where does it come from?

Tymethyl, can u decipher and compress thes mystical codes?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19406867 - 01/12/14 04:26 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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I don't discount that by saying there is only one self. It's just a fact of experience. First you should inquire who you are, and you will find by knowing yourself, and the simultaneous act by 'an other' in knowing themselves, that if you meet your gazes properly you will find you both came to recognise the same self in your inquiry. It's not really a mystical thing, although there is nothing really ordinary about being the supreme being - since who else could this one self be?




How about an emergent property of brain function? :monkeydance:

You do go on and on about shit you have no evidence for and you proclaim it like it's natural law.  But imo you are fos.




I think less and less we should be looking for evidence and instead look to our own experience as a guide for understanding. I don't make theories and test them, I go for novel experience and I observe my environment closely and in doing this I've noticed a few things-

What is inside my mind or what is just "my mind" and what is purportedly outside it or what is reality, are the same thing, the same entity. Reality is made of your mind. So you and he and they are obviously all inside my mind.
So what I'm doing inside is instantaneously reflected outside, making for a kind of multidimensionality to reality/life.
The world is not what it appears to be. It is not simply physical and that's it, we just count down the calendar to total understanding with physics/science. It's not just life, go live, it's not just here. It's a living presence, it's aware of you and what you are thinking, the thing is you. It's some kind of construct that has arisen in consciousness hopefully for some reason or totally without reason perhaps.
We know far, far less than we think. Take the present primary assumption of our thinking - that nature is 'mute' or that it is a fixed, out there, entity. That assumption is wrong, it is not independent of your mind, so really it could be anything, at different times, in different states of mind.

So I don't look for evidence I just go for experience, I try to get my state of mind in a certain way by will alone.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19406994 - 01/12/14 05:43 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

the present is you, because you are an individual freedom conscious being, so the conscious of being is the reference to being present for true existence fact

so you play with that knowledge to avoid or ignore what you don't want

this could be right since through your freedom fact while it is a relative thing so the consequences are all to yourself being or freedom positive rights of you alone


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19407470 - 01/12/14 09:15 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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Craziness huh?

Would it suck if god is crazy?

But does it matter?

What if God likes to laugh and everything is a joke to him, even life. =-/

No one really wants to be god, and they cant anyways.

Anyways how to put it nicely, don't fuck with god. ^.^




What sucks is that some people need a fictional story to be grateful for the good (and the bad) on earth here. :yawn:

IF there is a god it'd be hard not to be entertained with all the shit we go through and he's absolutely insane to enable us to make such a mess here. :lol:

buuutttt that's our own fault. So easy to attribute everything to non-existing figures. Oh well, as long as you find solace in your belief keep it ;o.


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