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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19394975 - 01/09/14 05:57 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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I am not from another planet nor that I am a bro

I am like any other woman of the world, nothing more





OK gf.  Keep your sense of humor. It may be all you have one day.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19395181 - 01/09/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I think the quote is something like.... if you see yourself on one side of the fence, and another on the other side of the fence... if you tried or could to see through their interpretation/eyes... you just might find yourself on the same side of the fence.

not quite but something like that...


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"Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."


"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions."
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"Experience always goes beyond ideas"


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Sse]
    #19395371 - 01/09/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:thumbup:

Perspective you have.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19395434 - 01/09/14 07:11 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

to be fair most of them are adopted... I guess I often find myself on the side of other's fences

"thanks to all the beings who brought us this food" something like that hehe


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"Springs of water welling from the fire"

"Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."


"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions."
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"Experience always goes beyond ideas"


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Sse]
    #19396226 - 01/09/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

However humble you may be, no one can choose a universal perspective for you.



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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19397272 - 01/10/14 04:25 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

why are you asking me anything when you admit that I am a subjective opinion about everything like everyone else does

there is no absolute truth at all, but anyone is free to claim what is positively true for him

while edges are always obvious things ..

to me one so the absence of else is the major reason of negative source and opposition force to positive rights and facts

while the objective recognition of else existence is always the print of absolute superiority that always end in being positive present right

you don't see those edges .. it is not my problem .. nor that what I am saying here concern me in anything

i don't give myself the right to give my opinions about everything but regarding what others are saying wrong to me
so what i consider how i can say something objectively absolutely better in positive value

speculations for better abstractions is the conscious function activity on a regular present basics of being

positive is all means, so the absolute free fact .. proven by life sense

your ways of meaning everything are totally different to mine, i don't make business with things .. nor that i care about any end

to me any individual is only himself so nothing to everything and totally else as a unique fact and possible value


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19397314 - 01/10/14 04:51 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

absols said:
I am not from another planet nor that I am a bro

I am like any other woman of the world, nothing more





OK gf.  Keep your sense of humor. It may be all you have one day.




again talk for yourself ! i don't have any sense of humor to keep it anyways .. that is your story not mine

and being a woman don't make me your girl friend on the contrary !

your individual fact would be the only thing left for you one day, while the respect of else individuality is never something that could be teached

it is far better guess about your future then yours about me

but it shows how for you the present is a lie so you can say all ends as something you know

what is funny is to see your delusions of now.. humor by definition is in the present only
so pointing humor for an end show that you lie.. and you cant be even a funny guy

denying that present exist especially with  all monstruosities and crimes happening now in the world against objective values and individual rights,  show your true colors again

nothing to do with humor at all


Edited by absols (01/10/14 05:04 AM)


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19397410 - 01/10/14 05:41 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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teknix said:
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this is what i said, you are one force

but it is not all and of course evil, truth and existence is only from else value.. that is why true freedom is absolute superiority of being else

but it is funny how you invent god to claim being one too with..

how do you choose what is not existing ?




I read what you're saying




obviously you don't read what is clearly said

i said, it cant be all, else exist too

so it is you who insist to generalize your means as being the exclusive fact

while me clearly believe in else being always more right


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19397434 - 01/10/14 05:53 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

I am a deity.. but I seek not to be worshipped..


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icyus]
    #19397469 - 01/10/14 06:16 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

you are not a deity in anyway .. you are a mortal conscious being that cannot be a source of anything at all

the exclusive value of being conscious is what it has no other way but to be true in order to be positive .. so what conscious beings would support objective rights by recognizing existing facts being free, so not from anyone's will or power ..

what is weird, is what most of conscious beings cant respect their own selves value, while a lot find a way to confuse themselves with powerful entities by the fanciful idea that they could be representing them or their images through their bodies ways of being constant


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397525 - 01/10/14 06:43 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

absols said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

absols said:
I am not from another planet nor that I am a bro

I am like any other woman of the world, nothing more





OK gf.  Keep your sense of humor. It may be all you have one day.




again talk for yourself ! i don't have any sense of humor to keep it anyways .. that is your story not mine

and being a woman don't make me your girl friend on the contrary !

your individual fact would be the only thing left for you one day, while the respect of else individuality is never something that could be teached

it is far better guess about your future then yours about me

but it shows how for you the present is a lie so you can say all ends as something you know

what is funny is to see your delusions of now.. humor by definition is in the present only
so pointing humor for an end show that you lie.. and you cant be even a funny guy

denying that present exist especially with  all monstruosities and crimes happening now in the world against objective values and individual rights,  show your true colors again

nothing to do with humor at all



Serious question here.  Is English your first language?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19397689 - 01/10/14 07:39 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

of course not and that is obvious .. so it says what serious is to you !

English is the most objective positive language which is confirmed by what English is the best communication tool international wise ... to me, English is the world language, and not a nation property

although I never studied English really even as a second language, as in france English is a very minor course, exactly what second language is in American schools

to you obviously, you found interest in what others say

to me any other sentences or words is all to himself value alone, true freedom right values

you should trust google search more, you can find informations about everything you want in the easiest and the most suitable forms to yourself kind of pleasure in reading something interesting ..


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397773 - 01/10/14 08:05 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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absols said:
of course not and that is obvious .. so it says what serious is to you !

English is the most objective positive language which is confirmed by what English is the best communication tool international wise ... to me, English is the world language, and not a nation property

although I never studied English really even as a second language, as in france English is a very minor course, exactly what second language is in American schools

to you obviously, you found interest in what others say

to me any other sentences or words is all to himself value alone, true freedom right values

you should trust google search more, you can find informations about everything you want in the easiest and the most suitable forms to yourself kind of pleasure in reading something interesting ..



?:thisisheavyman:I'm just not sure how to respond to that...Okay.:shrug:


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dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397907 - 01/10/14 08:57 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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absols said:
why are you asking me anything when you admit that I am a subjective opinion about everything like everyone else does

there is no absolute truth at all, but anyone is free to claim what is positively true for him

while edges are always obvious things ..

to me one so the absence of else is the major reason of negative source and opposition force to positive rights and facts

while the objective recognition of else existence is always the print of absolute superiority that always end in being positive present right

you don't see those edges .. it is not my problem .. nor that what I am saying here concern me in anything

i don't give myself the right to give my opinions about everything but regarding what others are saying wrong to me
so what i consider how i can say something objectively absolutely better in positive value

speculations for better abstractions is the conscious function activity on a regular present basics of being

positive is all means, so the absolute free fact .. proven by life sense

your ways of meaning everything are totally different to mine, i don't make business with things .. nor that i care about any end

to me any individual is only himself so nothing to everything and totally else as a unique fact and possible value




I am asking because you are obviously presenting your opinion, and being a conscious being I like to try to consider your angle without preconceived notions or bias. Yes, you are free to claim whatever perspective you want, I am just looking for the rationalization or reason for the chosen perspective. That is sort of the purpose of these forums, to rationalize our reasoning, and possibly even discard beliefs that are possibly instilled into us, rather than actually concluded by us. This isn't to say that logic is the epitome of knowing, only to say that it is apparently the best way to present the knowing to others.

So if you don't like how things are, and would prefer them to be different, how do you go about explaining it in a manner that others would understand, to bring about the changes you seek and desire, without rationality and reasoning? Sure you can have your beliefs, but that doesn't make your beliefs rational or with good cause.

So if you want to get your point across, instead of simply stating your opinion, it may be better to explain why it is your opinion and how you came to the conclusion. Otherwise how are we to consider it?

How did you acquire a computer and the internet without doing business in some manner?

You never answered How do you define god?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19397976 - 01/10/14 09:16 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Absols, what is "else being"? It may be clear to you, but I have no idea what you mean. I think you mean other beings?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19398035 - 01/10/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

No you don't mean any of my posts .. you keep inventing how to make another write what you want ! which is impossible since you are a poster like anyone else here.. so you can apply your wishs to your posts

while i said clearly how to me any post is the writer himself, which has nothing to do with any objective fact

your ways to justify yourself are very weird .. i might have everything anyone has and still don't do any business
you are clearly suggesting that you cannot live comfortably without taking advantage of everything ..

being is a fact not something you created to be .. so whatever conscious being do is only normal thing of being states and needs

and whatever ones seek to fulfill their needs, it stays a relative thing that has nothing to do with what they might do freely in regular basis of being alive

anyway, you can ignore my posts .. and i might do the same .. whatever i write is to me .. you cannot ask me my reasons of writing this and this and how did i reached there .. this become myself business alone

while you should start to mind your own business instead of insisting to mind others or anything


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398069 - 01/10/14 09:39 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

:awthatsbullshit:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398073 - 01/10/14 09:40 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I'm just trying to get you to present your case in a manner that is understandable, because I don't understand. For some reason you are ignoring the important questions that could elaborate upon your position. It makes it hard to take you serious.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19398099 - 01/10/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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No you don't mean any of my posts .. you keep inventing how to make another write what you want ! which is impossible since you are a poster like anyone else here.. so you can apply your wishs to your posts

while i said clearly how to me any post is the writer himself, which has nothing to do with any objective fact

your ways to justify yourself are very weird .. i might have everything anyone has and still don't do any business
you are clearly suggesting that you cannot live comfortably without taking advantage of everything ..

being is a fact not something you created to be .. so whatever conscious being do is only normal thing of being states and needs

and whatever ones seek to fulfill their needs, it stays a relative thing that has nothing to do with what they might do freely in regular basis of being alive

anyway, you can ignore my posts .. and i might do the same .. whatever i write is to me .. you cannot ask me my reasons of writing this and this and how did i reached there .. this become myself business alone

while you should start to mind your own business instead of insisting to mind others or anything



Why do you post here?  Any time somebody comments on your posts, you passive aggressively argue some arbitrary point into the ground. 
Write a fucking diary, it would come off as alot less needy. :cookiemonster:


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invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19398199 - 01/10/14 10:09 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

say that to yourself.. who is the fucking aggressive here ??

besides, i always post on philosophy forums, and you can ignore my posts as i would that about you now 

it is amazing to what large extent all common sense seem reversed now

when you ask somebody about his own life or self, you should expect that right is against you and not what you might act as there is no one else but you and others must confirm it in  the name of gooooddd...

and needy yourself, when obviously you cant see the value of a forum but of what you might get from to your ego

forums are living realities of conscious states, it is a true present thing like everything


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