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Tooktoomuch
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19384550 - 01/07/14 07:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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U can still mist n fan but mine I have left it alone for two days and everything was fine. They were thicker than when I do mess with it. You can most when u check it n fan after but the dual pump provides fae n since its heated h2 o u got a humid environment with the. Blankets it's warm
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384558 - 01/07/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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FIXED IT BOD YOU SHOULD LIKE THIS ONE 2
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Tooktoomuch
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384561 - 01/07/14 07:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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U got to buy a dual pump its provides plenty n ur tub is 100 gallons way to big if u got a smaller one I'd be like my set up it would wrk I could make a 100 gallon wrk with more pumps n heaters but I'd just make another one like I got that way u don't contam all u got if u have multi FC,
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: cronicr]
#19384573 - 01/07/14 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tooktoomuch said: U can still mist n fan but mine I have left it alone for two days and everything was fine. They were thicker than when I do mess with it. You can most when u check it n fan after but the dual pump provides fae n since its heated h2 o u got a humid environment with the. Blankets it's warm

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cronicr said: CLICK ME AND FILL ME IN!
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cronicr said: FIXED IT BOD YOU SHOULD LIKE THIS ONE 2
haha You can leave it for now
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: twistedty]
#19384574 - 01/07/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know I'm a total noob and gonna get flamed for this method, which is why I don't recommend it and if you try it your house will likely explode.... but this set up worked great for my jars.

My house stays around 65F and I know they will colonize, but I was impatient and wanted to warm them up, I used a flood light bulb hanging over the tote they are in and used a digital thermometer to dial it in until I got it to a pretty constant 77F. It was meant to be a temporary set up but it seemed to be doing pretty good and not drying the jars out or anything so I haven't set anything else up yet. I have jars not under it to compare to and these today just started the 1 week consolidation count down while the ones left at 65F are around 60-70% colonized.
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384578 - 01/07/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tooktoomuch said: U got to buy a dual pump its provides plenty n ur tub is 100 gallons way to big if u got a smaller one I'd be like my set up it would wrk I could make a 100 gallon wrk with more pumps n heaters but I'd just make another one like I got that way u don't contam all u got if u have multi FC,
I'm saying a 100G pump in a regular sized tub doesn't even provide enough FAE.
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twistedty
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384581 - 01/07/14 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tooktoomuch said: U got to buy a dual pump its provides plenty n ur tub is 100 gallons way to big if u got a smaller one I'd be like my set up it would wrk I could make a 100 gallon wrk with more pumps n heaters but I'd just make another one like I got that way u don't contam all u got if u have multi FC,
or you can buy a tote for 10 bux and drill holes on all 6 sides and it operates 24/7 in silence with no electricity.
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: funton]
#19384583 - 01/07/14 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: start a thread and post some pics and welcome to shroomery;)
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cronicr said: CLICK ME AND FILL ME IN!
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: cronicr]
#19384598 - 01/07/14 07:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Full moon tonight?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19384605 - 01/07/14 07:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's 59F in my house right now, I'm using my gas oven as a space heater TEK. I don't even have a incubator.
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19384611 - 01/07/14 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Full moon tonight?
right? this was a good thread
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cronicr



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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19384617 - 01/07/14 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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my house is always 75-79...fucking love it sometimes i need to try drop the fucking temps lol
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: cronicr]
#19384647 - 01/07/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My last place I would just pay to keep at 75F all winter, because fuck it I could afford it no problem, Oh no my energy bill is 50 extra dollars, that's like four days of weed lol. Now I live in this shithole place with no thermistat the heat is included and it's these radiant heat baseboards that can't cope with the fact that it's been -20F to -5F out the last few days.
The humidity dropped in my house because the windows got so cold all the moisture condensed on them and now there's ice sheets on my windows.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/07/14 07:41 PM)
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Tooktoomuch
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19384784 - 01/07/14 08:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a dual pump feeding two bubble wands my cakes sit on top of a grate screen n they hav a sg terr over them the co2 is pushed out thru the holes in the sg tub get wha I'm sayn it does provide fae plenty n rh
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384807 - 01/07/14 08:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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co2 doesn't get pushed out it just mixes with the air in your chamber, the two pumps don't purge enough of this air mixed with co2(hence air with a higher concentration then 600ppm co2) out the rate at which the two wands will push air out will not over come a fully loaded fruiting chamber and all the mycelium in it and the co2 concentration will build up relative to the rest of the molecules in air. so yes you're getting some air movement but it's not air exchange at all. Find a way around that, well we did and it's passive rather than active. Passive solutions are often more brilliant then their counterparts. Mercedes F1 team made duct works that channeled air from the nose of the car through straws in the body and blew that forced air over the wings to generate additional down-force, the venturi and Bernoulli's principle operated without electronics were able to give additional downforce in cornering to the other side of the car to give it a gradient laterally of downforce to help the car corner better. Or you could tack on a few kilos more of wings and suspension parts and computers, SGFC works in the same passive way with less bullshit and better effect/reliability. Beat it for a reasonable cost, I'm still waiting for pictures and evidence.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/07/14 08:15 PM)
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Tooktoomuch
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384810 - 01/07/14 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had the same prob as u sgfc worked in summer but dryer out substrate in winter
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384834 - 01/07/14 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i told you there is no pics coming...................
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Tooktoomuch]
#19384846 - 01/07/14 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Picture of awesomeness
Only need to watch the first minute.
if you like to read
Don't doubt the effectiveness of simple passive systems. they often outperform the over engineered, over thought, bulky, item/systems heavy counterparts. It's just poor craftsmanship usually the result of rushed people who are more into life for the ME than the LIFE.
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Fruiting Chamber A SGFC has 1/4" holes spaces 2 inches apart in a grid patten on all six sides. 4-6 inches of moist perlite. No attachments made to it with any extra things like humidifiers. Optimally the SGFC should be in the middle of a room. No fans should be run in the room with the SGFC, but a cracked window is OK. A humidifier in your house can help to raise the ambient RH but don't put it near your SGFC put it in the other corner of the room if you do decide to run a humidifier at all. The SGFC IMO should have at least 6-12 inches of room from any wall on all 6 sides. This includes finding some sort of raisers to elevate the SGFC off of the surface it's on.
Misting and Fanning. This is a source of much grief and 100's of posts a week here. Misting and fanning is not at all complicated as it needs to be. In general you'll mist your cakes until they glisten(yes they can even with the verm on them) and then fan right after the mist. You can mist your cakes directly and you should. When you notice the cake is no longer glistening you can mist it again and then fan. This occurs on average of 3-5 times a day. Don't worry about sleeping or being gone 12 hours. Just do it when you're around and don't forget about it is all. Fanning is not FAE it's only purpose is to relive the high RH air so that the cakes can get a kickstart on evaporation.
FAE This is a phenomenon (Fresh air exchange) in a properly built SGFC this is constantly happening. The perlite is naturally cooler than the surrounding air this moves molecules closer to eachother as the lose kinetic energy. This creates low pressure which pulls air up through the bottom holes. As the air moves through the perlite it picks up humidity and keeps the chamber at or above 90%RH. This occurs naturally without the fanning and is why we like to have no fans in the room and is also why fanning after misting is not a replacement for FAE.
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Notahacker420 said: Fanning is not a replacement for constant FAE.
You would need to fan several times per hour.

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