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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19383375 - 01/07/14 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The Bulls have made it official. They are giving up.

    They trade Luol Deng to Cleveland for Andrew Bynum and draft picks, then they waive Bynum. The whole deal is complicated, and I will probably screw up part of this description.

    Apparently Bynum had some weird contract, that made such a stupid deal not quite so stupid, at least in not paying luxury taxes and other financial considerations.  All the draft picks, which come from different teams, are all expected to be in the 2nd round, and probably have no impact. A first rounder from Sacramento is possible, but only if the Kings vastly improve and how likely is that. Maybe, if they get a lottery pick this year. Also, the Bulls will amnesty Carlos Boozer after the season.

    The really fucked up part is that no matter who you take out of the Bulls lineup, they never suck completely and can't get a lottery pick. This is partly because Tom Thibideau is a good coach. And the NBA East is awful. Now they are thinking they will fire Thibs so they can suck completely, and get a pick. GM Gar Heard fired Thibideau's assistant during the summer, which is unusual because the coach normally makes that call.

    The Bulls have money to spend, but they probably won't spend it this year in their effort to successfully suck. They are also pinning their hopes on some guy playing in Greece, whose rights they own.

    28 year old Luol Deng was the Bulls' 4th highest all-time scorer after Jordan, Pippen and Bob Love. While he never became a big star scorer, he was good at every aspect of the game.


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #19383460 - 01/07/14 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dont know how I feel about this move for the Cavs.. I mean I get unloading Bynum but I didnt like the idea of giving up 3 picks over the next 2 seasons. We had an opportunity to keep the cap room available and try to lure a big name FA with the idea of playing with Kyrie Irving (one of the top 5 PG's in basketball) ,Dion Waiters a young and promising SG, and what would have been 3-4 picks in the first 2 rounds of this years NBA draft. If they didnt blow this years pick on Anthony Bennett they would have been a playoff team


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19383729 - 01/07/14 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure what deals Cleveland made with the other teams. I know the Bulls are getting one pick from Portland. The Bulls are getting at least one pick from Sacramento but it can be in the next three seasons, and they have one 12 pick exception and 2 years of 10 pick exceptions, so they don't have to give up a good pick. I don't know if the bulls get one pick or none from Cleveland, and I don't know what Cleveland arranged with the other teams.


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19383752 - 01/07/14 05:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cleveland is thinking playoffs not titles.


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #19384991 - 01/07/14 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well yeah, the picks came from other teams but they would have been owed to the Cavs had the Bynum deal not been done

I know the pick from Portland came from the JJ Hickson deal but I cant recall the 2 that we are owed from Sacramento, I am thinking it was a 3-team trade last season or the one before


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19395249 - 01/09/14 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Corey Stokes may get picked up by Chicago for a big money deal.
OR
He might take on a mentor ship under Ray Allen in Miami.

What would you do?


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: Group]
    #19403686 - 01/11/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Who is Corey Stokes?


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19410272 - 01/12/14 09:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He played for Nova, shot 44% from three point range.
Helped them get to the Final Four and cut down the nets.


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: Group]
    #19432558 - 01/17/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Still have no idea who you are talking about. I dont recall Nova being in a final four in at least 5-6 years now

Indiana keeps on rollin. I really hope they can lock up the #1 seed in the East and beat the Heat this year

Lots of talk about LeBron going back to Cleveland after this season :rolleyes:

Would be kinda cool to see LeBron go back to Cleveland and Wade return to Chicago


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19432583 - 01/17/14 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I really doubt that Lebron is going back to Cleveland. We just saved 10 million dollars in cap room by trading Joel Anthony a few days ago.

I'm pretty sure that a big part of that money is going to be used to pay James a lot more.


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19432638 - 01/17/14 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The NBA has a thing called the Max Contract, which he is already signed to


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19432913 - 01/17/14 11:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As much as I'm into basketball to the point where it's close to an addiction, I've never heard of the term "max contract".

Could you please elaborate on that?

Oh. Also the 3 team trade that the Heat was involved in we acquired Toney Douglas. I've seen him play a several times in his 10 years in the NBA, but don't have much recollection of his skills. What are your guy's thoughts about his abilities?

I understand trading for cap room by getting rid of Joel Anthony now that we have Birdman, Haslem, Bosh, and now Greg Oden active. Oden being the only true center. I was really impressed by the way he played in his limited time a couple nights ago. Apparently we're gradually giving him more playing time as the season goes on so he can play around 20-25 minutes a game come playoff time. He's going to be great at defending Roy Hibbert in the post. I've said this before, but all the Heat was lacking was a true 5 spot center with good rebounding abilities.

I'm very convinced that the Heat will be able to win the chip again this year with such a well balanced team that has great chemistry. The pacers are going to be the only hurdle, and like I said, Oden will do wonders for us against them.


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Edited by kr0nik0 (01/17/14 11:54 AM)


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19433020 - 01/17/14 12:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A Max Contract is the league-determined maximum contract. I dont know the numbers on it off the top of my head but I know players like LeBron, D-Wade, K-Durant, James Harden, and probably many others are on "Max Contract"

The only exception to Max Contract rule is something like the team who had the player before his contract expired, has the ability to offer a Max Contract + 10% or something in order to give them a slight financial advantage over other teams who want the player in free agency

And Roy Hibbert would eat Oden alive. Oden cant move and battle the way Hibbert can


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19433269 - 01/17/14 01:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't believe the big 3 receive anywhere close to a maximum contract. They each make exactly the same amount of money. 20 million a year. They all took massive pay cuts to come and/or stay with the Heat.

Doesn't Kobe's old ass make something like 45 million?

You're right about Hibbert being able to run circles around Oden, but it's nice to finally have a true big man on the roster that can at least try to prevent that sick post hook shot that Hibbert has. I mean the guy hadn't played a game in 4 years, and he came out looking great on Wednesday. :shrug:


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19433296 - 01/17/14 01:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't believe the big 3 receive anywhere close to a maximum contract. They each make exactly the same amount of money. 20 million a year. They all took massive pay cuts to come and/or stay with the Heat.

Doesn't Kobe's old ass make something like 45 million?

You're right about Hibbert being able to run circles around Oden, but it's nice to finally have a true big man on the roster that can at least try to prevent that sick post hook shot that Hibbert has. I mean the guy hadn't played a game in 4 years, and he came out looking great on Wednesday. :shrug:




Actually, I believe all 3 of the "big 3" receive Max Contracts


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19433303 - 01/17/14 01:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The wikipedia page explains it a bit better than I did

The maximum amount of money a player can sign for is based on the number of years that player has played and the total of the salary cap. The maximum salary of a player with 6 or fewer years of experience is either $9,000,000 or 25% of the total salary cap (2010–11: $14,511,000), whichever is greater. For a player with 7–9 years of experience, the maximum is $11,000,000 or 30% of the cap (2010–11: $17,413,200), and for a player with 10+ years of experience, the maximum is $14,000,000 or 35% of the cap (2010–2011: $20,315,400).[10] There is an exception to this rule: a player is able to sign a contract for 105% of his previous contract, even if the new contract is higher than the league limit.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Maximum_individual_contracts_under_the_CBA


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19433308 - 01/17/14 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is how Kobe got his monster deal:

Larry Bird exception

Perhaps the most well-known of the NBA's salary cap exceptions, it is so named because the Boston Celtics were the first team permitted to exceed the salary cap to re-sign one of their own players (in that case, Larry Bird). Free agents who qualify for this exception are called "qualifying veteran free agents" or "Bird Free Agents" in the CBA, and this exception falls under the auspices of the Veteran Free Agent exception. In essence, the Larry Bird exception allows teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents, at an amount up to the maximum salary. To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. Players claimed after being amnestied have their Bird rights transferred to their new team. Other players claimed off waivers are not eligible for the full Bird exception, but may qualify for the early Bird exception. Prior to an arbitrator ruling in June 2012, all players that were waived and changed teams lost their Bird rights.[24][25] This means a player can obtain "Bird rights" by playing under three one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any combination thereof. It also means that when a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded with him, and his new team can use the Bird exception to re-sign him. Under the 2011 CBA, Bird-exception contracts can be up to five years in length, down from six under the 2005 CBA.[6]
Early Bird exception

This is the lesser form of the Larry Bird Exception. Free agents who qualify for this exception are called "early qualifying veteran free agents," and qualify after playing two seasons with the same team. Players that are traded or claimed off waivers have their Bird rights transferred to their new team. Prior to an arbitrator ruling in June 2012, all players that were waived and changed teams lost their Bird rights.[24][25] Using this exception, a team can re-sign its own free agent for either 175% of his salary the previous season, or the NBA's average salary, whichever is greater. Early Bird contracts must be for at least two seasons, but can last no longer than four seasons. If a team agrees to a trade that would make a player lose his Early Bird Rights, he has the power to veto the trade.


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #19433409 - 01/17/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The wikipedia page explains it a bit better than I did

The maximum amount of money a player can sign for is based on the number of years that player has played and the total of the salary cap. The maximum salary of a player with 6 or fewer years of experience is either $9,000,000 or 25% of the total salary cap (2010–11: $14,511,000), whichever is greater. For a player with 7–9 years of experience, the maximum is $11,000,000 or 30% of the cap (2010–11: $17,413,200), and for a player with 10+ years of experience, the maximum is $14,000,000 or 35% of the cap (2010–2011: $20,315,400).[10] There is an exception to this rule: a player is able to sign a contract for 105% of his previous contract, even if the new contract is higher than the league limit.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Maximum_individual_contracts_under_the_CBA




Oh right on man. Thanks for explaining it to me. I'm still a bit confused on how this all works, but I appreciate you taking the time to look up all this info for me. :thumbup:


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19434124 - 01/17/14 05:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Funny I just linked to this in the baseball thread but whatever the rules are LeBron obviously cares more about winning than money.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_sports_contracts


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Re: NBA 2013-2014 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19434217 - 01/17/14 05:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Funny I just linked to this in the baseball thread but whatever the rules are LeBron obviously cares more about winning than money.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_sports_contracts




Not really since he is signed to a Max Contract

edit- Upon further research I guess he did sign for slightly lower than the Max Contract; 19 mil a year instead of 21


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