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RanOutOfWeed
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Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP!
#19383196 - 01/07/14 03:38 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I'm doing PF tek. 10 jars in a tote
5 days no growth, house is around 68 degrees. winter 
Can anyone link me a good heat pad so i can get these jars what they deserve?
Thanks
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cronicr



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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#19383202 - 01/07/14 03:39 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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no heat pad thats a bad idea, heat your room or be patient they will colonize at those temps and five days is nuthing to worry about
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Camtaro420
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: cronicr]
#19383316 - 01/07/14 03:58 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Seen plenty of posts about heating pads ruining their grow. Get a TiT incubator or just warm the room. My cakes are colonizing well and they prolly dip down to 68 some nights.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: cronicr]
#19383356 - 01/07/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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cronicr said: no heat pad thats a bad idea, heat your room or be patient they will colonize at those temps and five days is nuthing to worry about
What makes the heating pad bad?
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cronicr



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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19383369 - 01/07/14 04:06 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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uneven heat source, they need to have the temp the same all around them not just underneathe
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Camtaro420
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19383376 - 01/07/14 04:07 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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It's impossible to maintain the proper temperature for cakes sitting on a heating pad. It will only continue to rise and you will have no idea what the heat is inside the jars.
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cronicr



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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Camtaro420]
#19383382 - 01/07/14 04:08 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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thats y we use tub in tubs, even predictable heat source
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natzyshroomer
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: cronicr]
#19383405 - 01/07/14 04:11 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I was seeing signs of growth in 4/5 jars and it was 65 turn your house heat up
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Camtaro420
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Quote:
cronicr said:
thats y we use tub in tubs, even predictable heat source
Because you can keep the jars in an enclosed environment that surrounds them and will have a heat source set to disengage whenever it hits the temperature you tweak it to.
Even if you tried your hardest to set up a heating pad, it's just not going to work the way you want it to. But hey some people get lucky.
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natzyshroomer said: I was seeing signs of growth in 4/5 jars and it was 65 turn your house heat up
^ This. Like I said, nothing to worry about. I feel bad for people in canada right now fighting off -0 weather. 68 is nothing to fear and better for keeping down the bacteria.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Camtaro420]
#19383431 - 01/07/14 04:14 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: It's impossible to maintain the proper temperature for cakes sitting on a heating pad. It will only continue to rise and you will have no idea what the heat is inside the jars.
I've been using a pad to colonize mine, don't see any bad results. They are fully colonized in a good amount of time
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19383442 - 01/07/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Eclipse3130 said:
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Camtaro420 said: It's impossible to maintain the proper temperature for cakes sitting on a heating pad. It will only continue to rise and you will have no idea what the heat is inside the jars.
I've been using a pad to colonize mine, don't see any bad results. They are fully colonized in a good amount of time
write a tek, i'll see you there
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Camtaro420
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Camtaro420]
#19383446 - 01/07/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Eclipse3130 said:
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Camtaro420 said: It's impossible to maintain the proper temperature for cakes sitting on a heating pad. It will only continue to rise and you will have no idea what the heat is inside the jars.
I've been using a pad to colonize mine, don't see any bad results. They are fully colonized in a good amount of time
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Camtaro420 said: hey some people get lucky.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Camtaro420]
#19383495 - 01/07/14 04:22 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I just place my jars in their original box on top of a fridge, I place my sterlite tub lid with holes on top of the jars and place the heating pad on top of that. I don't let it sit directly on the jars, I elevate the lid just about 1 inch.
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Camtaro420
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19383517 - 01/07/14 04:26 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: I just place my jars in their original box on top of a fridge, I place my sterlite tub lid with holes on top of the jars and place the heating pas on top of that. I don't let it sit directly on the jars, I elevate the lis just about 1 inch. Works perf
Sounds like a waste of electricity and a nice warm air incubator for contaminates up at the dry verm layer.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Camtaro420]
#19383550 - 01/07/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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A waste of 30 watts, which is basically 2 light bulbs, what 3 bucks a month i'm not too worried about 3 dollars It's keeping them warm, so not completely a waste. And I'm not worried about "warm air contams" which will not break through the verm. Better than it being on the bottom though.
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twistedty
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19383788 - 01/07/14 05:11 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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68 degrees is fine, and 5 days with no showing of growth is perfectly normal.
im against incubation
as long as its not below 40F you should be fine
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: twistedty]
#19383814 - 01/07/14 05:15 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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twistedty said: 68 degrees is fine, and 5 days with no showing of growth is perfectly normal.
im against incubation
as long as its not below 40F you should be fine

It was -20F out the other day it's like -5 out today. My house is 58-65F the last whole week, Everything has been doing just fine.
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MudaFuka
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19383853 - 01/07/14 05:21 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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68 is within the range I use for colonization. Works great. My heating pad is in my basement underneath a bunch of other useless shit.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19383903 - 01/07/14 05:29 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Eclipse3130 said: I just place my jars in their original box on top of a fridge, I place my sterlite tub lid with holes on top of the jars and place the heating pad on top of that. I don't let it sit directly on the jars, I elevate the lid just about 1 inch.
This is how to do it if a heating pad must be used. The pad should always be on top so it doesn't cook the substrate.
However, it's best to get your room up to 75F or so and use open air on a shelf, not a box where the air can get stale. RR
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Cold House. Need HEAT PAD ASAP! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19383918 - 01/07/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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My favorite part of the day:
There is no reason to bother with any heating at all SO long as you can live in the environment your jars are in. As others have said heat pads are worthless. Directly heating a jar is a recipe for drying it out. For every success story, I read about a dozen or so that exclaim "Zomg mai growtzzz stopperzd wtf y?" Because you probally dried out the jar from uneven heating. I have seen it done personally by a friend and was shocked when he asked me the above question. He showed me a jar, and there is no doubt that it dried out. I can honestly say that I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION. I HATE THE RUMOR THAT WARMER TEMPS CAUSE CONTAMINATION.
Did you know that aside from hating the rumor that warm temps cause contamination, I am generally a nice enough guy (lies). The fact of the matter that if your jar is contaminated, it has nothing at all to do with outside forces. A jar becomes contaminated because a contaminant is introduced either through inoculation, the filter or through the spore solution itself (unless you make it yourself from a totally sterile grow in near lab conditions). I see quite a few pf tek guys reporting this "Non-fact" over and over, and now that winter is here I would rather hear a bunch of people screaming racial and religious slurs than that. HEAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CONTAMINATION. Spore syringes are generally pretty clean, but there is no 100% clean spore solution. PERIOD. I have jars of grain that were inoculated with agar that IF I heated them to 90f+ they would never contaminate. NEVER EVER. Period. It is because I can guarantee that it was a clean culture introduced to a sterile grain. There is nothing that will happen other than a stress reaction and/or death of the mycelium. Period.
Keep it simple, and you will encounter many less issues. The more stuff you have plugged into a wall pointing at or under your jars etc, the greater the risk of failure. Jars will colonize at lower temps than what most users here can even imagine. Granted it is slower, but that is better than blowing it all over a few heaters etc. If your jars are cold, heat the room. The only thing that I would advise is the possible use of at TiT. However, I still feel it totally unnecessary, and a waste of electric. Yes, even if it cost less than a penny, it is still a waste.
Hope that helps. Oh ya, ditch all the heating stuff. Its a waste of money. Even in the best of conditions, it may save you a few days of colonization. It don't matter how you define the costs, it the cons outweigh the benefits.
Don't take my CAPS LOCK anger to heart, it is something that is repeated over and over and is just plain wrong. I am not really mad, just trying to make an impression.
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