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Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice?
    #19383085 - 01/07/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

I've read on this forum that lemon juice makes mushrooms more than twice as strong. Said person mixed 2g shrooms with 2floz lemon juice and shot it, achieving a level 5 trip.

I was wondering a few things.

1.) Would lemon juice make the effects of mescaline stronger or just kick in harder and faster?

2.) Would this be a good way to consume the powder without the awful taste? You're supposed to slam it down like a shot of alcohol, so to consume my full dosage I would have to do 7, which sounds better than brewing tea.

3.) I've heard too much Vitamin C can be bad. Is 14floz 100% lemon juice too much?

Any responses would be nice, I can also post a link to the thread about mushies and lemon juice on here, if requested.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19383175 - 01/07/14 03:34 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

link requested :wink: I love this debate!


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Mr.Sir]
    #19383213 - 01/07/14 03:40 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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link requested :wink: I love this debate!




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4714757/an/0/page/0

Link :grin:


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19383594 - 01/07/14 04:38 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

i think there would be too much cactus to do this with there is a huge difference in 2g of mush powder and 50-100g of cacti powder, my geuss is this most likely isnt a good idea


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #19383628 - 01/07/14 04:46 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

I'm only doing 14g for first time. My source is a highly respected online vendor, and it's supposedly pretty potent stuff (1.5-2% mescaline content).


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19384085 - 01/07/14 05:58 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

im really not wanting to come off as a dick but there are a couple of issues with this, i havent looked at online cacti in like 6 months because im growing my own baby achuma, however i used to research it heavily and never saw or heard of a vendor saying how much mesc was in it as they all said it just varies and never had it tested. but even if it is what you posted thats only between 210 and 280mg of mesc which is nowhere near level 5 even if it did potentiate it using lemon juice (but as a side note the general consensus seems to be that it just converts the psilocybin into psilocin before you take it and that has nothing to do with cacti) i dont think you will level 5 unless you make a super tea or extract it and use alot more cacti than 14g


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #19384269 - 01/07/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Who said I wanted a level 5? I've only had ONE trip in my life and it was a level 5, and it hit me out of nowhere (synthetic marijuana).

No offense taken at all. The content I describe comes from talking to friends who have used the vendor and give a rough estimate based on experience.

I'm interested in cacti for the simple fact that I want to get into entheogens gently, and work my way up. My main concern is the taste. I have a really stout stomach, I just don't want to taste it. I want to know if doing 7 lemon shots of 2g each will mask the taste.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19384411 - 01/07/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

ahh your name and mention of level 5 and using lemon tek sorta made me think you wanted to level 5 but either way i would use more cacti and note that cacti sludge lemon shots will be kinda gross


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #19384474 - 01/07/14 07:11 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Now that you put it that way, that sounds nasty as fuck. (I'm not sur if cursing is allowed here?) But I definitely don't want to drink the tea or eat 14 horse pills.

I've heard just munching on the dried chips is an okay way to go, but the onset is slow.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19384531 - 01/07/14 07:22 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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Who said I wanted a level 5? I've only had ONE trip in my life and it was a level 5, and it hit me out of nowhere (synthetic marijuana).

No offense taken at all. The content I describe comes from talking to friends who have used the vendor and give a rough estimate based on experience.

I'm interested in cacti for the simple fact that I want to get into entheogens gently, and work my way up. My main concern is the taste. I have a really stout stomach, I just don't want to taste it. I want to know if doing 7 lemon shots of 2g each will mask the taste.




I think you're just gonna have to man up. Eating dried chips is just going to prolong the process. You might wanna try mixing cacti tea with pulpy orange juice. IME it masks the taste extremely well.

There's something else I want to say. Please don't think an overwhelming synth cannabinoid experience is anything like a level 5 trip from psychedelics. I know from experience it's intense but it just doesn't compare. That's all.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19384714 - 01/07/14 07:52 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

I can do that. I love pulpy orange juice.

As for you referring to my trip, are you saying it wasn't level 5 or are you just stating that the experiences are different?


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19385640 - 01/07/14 10:47 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Prob that it was nothing like an actual level 5 trip


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19385773 - 01/07/14 11:15 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Well, tough titty. It matched the textbook definition of a level 5 trip. It WAS a level 5 trip. I can post a link to the goddamn report right now.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19386292 - 01/08/14 01:49 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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It matched the textbook definition of a level 5 trip. It WAS a level 5 trip.




:facepalm:

I wouldn't recommend cactus powder lemon teked, but who knows.  The tea is worth the time and you can reduce it down to 1-2 shots.  The citric acid does convert the alkaloids to salts and they seem to absorb quicker. So it would be good to add lemon juice to the tea as it cooks.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19386630 - 01/08/14 06:21 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Spice can def propel you into a level 5 trip for a short period depending on what your smoking. Use to be this stuff called down to earth that had me faced every time I hit it. Idk what Chem was on it. The consistentcy was like wet sawdust. You would trip balls for like 15 mins. Forgetting where you were or what was going on lost in a sea of morphing reality. Was literally only available around my way for a few weeks.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: highc]
    #19387853 - 01/08/14 12:04 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I'll probably do the orange juice method.

As for you who doubt the level 5, here's the fucking link.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19228942


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Level5MotherFucker]
    #19388046 - 01/08/14 12:52 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Make a tea or capsule that shit. Take a proper dose too.  I imagine you'd be lucky to get threshold effects from 14 grams of dried material.

Most of the reports I've read dosing starts around 35 grams and goes up to 70-100 grams with weaker material. Cactus is hard to overdue and more often than not can be underwhelming. I started with 50 grams and think 55-60 grams shall be my personal sweet spot.

Your trip report from the spice sounds like an immensely terrifying, personal experience. Thankfully, the chances of having such an experience with cactus is very unlikely. Quite the opposite really.

Another option is to roll up balls of powder with honey and swallow those. The lemon tek sounds like an awful idea for cactus, as it is already uber bitter. Another favorite would be to make tea and then reduce down until it becomes a tar. The tar can then be rolled into swallowable sized balls.

I personally like the capsules. Good luck.


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Re: Powdered Peruvian Torch With Lemon Juice? [Re: Couperj]
    #19388151 - 01/08/14 01:17 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Thank you. I'll probably make the tea. Brew it for 4-5 hours, strain out the shit, then simmer it down to the smallest amount of liquid possible. Squeeze a lime in there and chug. I may end up doing 28 grams instead.


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