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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Crystal G]
    #19375446 - 01/06/14 12:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not reading 5 pages of debate, but once my friend Zappaisgod gets involved....


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: OldHam] * 1
    #19376463 - 01/06/14 09:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

crystal G, go smoke more crack. the rest of you, fuck off and read a book. I am done with this discussion.


FYI just because something is easier to learn does not make it less complex. you just don't understand neurolinguistics and that is okay. it's because you don't try to. just go do more drugs and fuck your life off some more.



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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #19376858 - 01/06/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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crystal G, go smoke more crack. the rest of you, fuck off and read a book. I am done with this discussion.


FYI just because something is easier to learn does not make it less complex. you just don't understand neurolinguistics and that is okay. it's because you don't try to. just go do more drugs and fuck your life off some more.







Lol that is the second time you have said you were finished with this discussion lmfao.

Just because people do not agree with your veiws does not mean they have not read books or are not educated. You are just a naive know-it-all who thinks everyone has to agree with you or they are somehow less intelligent.

And just because drugs made YOU fuck your life off does not mean everyone who does any drugs will be the same. Some people actually have common sense and a sense of responsibility, unlike yourself


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19377058 - 01/06/14 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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crystal G, go smoke more crack. the rest of you, fuck off and read a book. I am done with this discussion.




Awe, I'm flattered. You didn't tell me to go read a book. You think I'm a well-read crackhead. :awesome:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #19377175 - 01/06/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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crystal G, go smoke more crack. the rest of you, fuck off and read a book. I am done with this discussion.




What's the matter - you don't want to talk about linguistics anymore - LOL



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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Confucian]
    #19381547 - 01/07/14 09:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

god damn i left for 2 days and this thread has turned into an 11-page battle of the egos. can't say i'm surprised :awesome:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Envix]
    #19381557 - 01/07/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When it comes to how much anyone knows about what's going on its never short and rarely civil.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #19381588 - 01/07/14 09:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

to make an attempt to bring the topic back on board (lol wut?), ...

i don't think it makes much sense to logically analyze an inherently illogical problem.

that ends that argument.

now, back to the original topic. Bill Nye will only attract the attention of those who want to listen. so will the creationist side. those who will listen most likely ALREADY HAVE a formulated opinion on the matter, and their chances of changing their stance based on the debate is likely none.

therefore, this debate will do nothing but stroke the egos of those who will choose to listen to only the parts they want to hear, and respond in the ways they were going to anyway.

this is because people do not want to listen to others. people only want to listen to themselves. people only want to state their opinions on the matter, and hear others restate them. and keep re-stating and re-stating and re-stating until they've convinced themselves that their way is the only correct way, and this causes conflict which is pretty obvious. i wonder what would happen if people were to openly listen, completely and fully, BEFORE forming an opinion...

anyway, it's none of my business. continue the bickering :otd:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Envix]
    #19381605 - 01/07/14 10:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Meh who cares, both sides are gonna pull the same shit. For all we know we could've been seeded by sooper advanced aliens with crazy propulsion systems. It's completely possible to create something that will evolve over time. Or this is just some simulation based in the "true" reality that something set initial conditions for and triggered. Who the hell knows really :shrug:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Envix]
    #19381608 - 01/07/14 10:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bill Nye will only attract the attention of those who want to listen. so will the creationist side. those who will listen most likely ALREADY HAVE a formulated opinion on the matter, and their chances of changing their stance based on the debate is likely none.




Not necessarily true, there's no way of knowing for certain what kind of audience will tune in. A lot may not have looked into the topic much at all.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: psi]
    #19381642 - 01/07/14 10:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

could be, but at least in that case it would also serve to inform those who are willing to listen, yet until that point were ignorant on the issue. in that case, whatever stance they choose from that point would be based in open information.

whether that information would sway what they were going to choose anyway is completely unknowable, so there's no sense in arguing about that.

maybe one day computer/cognitive sciences will become advanced enough to make mind control as easy as downloading apps for your smartphones. then we will be able to convince anyone of anything by just sending them a virus via brain-mail


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Confucian]
    #19381653 - 01/07/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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crystal G, go smoke more crack. the rest of you, fuck off and read a book. I am done with this discussion.




What's the matter - you don't want to talk about linguistics anymore - LOL





Do you have a background in Neurophys? Are you even interested in linguistics?


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Envix]
    #19382214 - 01/07/14 12:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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could be, but at least in that case it would also serve to inform those who are willing to listen, yet until that point were ignorant on the issue. in that case, whatever stance they choose from that point would be based in open information.

whether that information would sway what they were going to choose anyway is completely unknowable, so there's no sense in arguing about that.




I agree with that. I'd say that it's worthwhile if people watching are learning something, whether or not they necessarily change their initial stance.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: psi]
    #19383270 - 01/07/14 03:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How does one learn about "I'm too dumb to learn science so I'll just say gawd did it" Creationism?


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Confucian]
    #19383300 - 01/07/14 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How does one learn about "I'm too dumb to learn science so I'll just say gawd did it" Creationism?



There are lots of different metaphysical ideas.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19383330 - 01/07/14 04:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How does one learn about "I'm too dumb to learn science so I'll just say gawd did it" Creationism?



There are lots of different metaphysical ideas.




Allegedly . . .

None that really hold any credence to the real world. Haven't you said a couple time that you were done with this discussion?


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Confucian]
    #19383333 - 01/07/14 04:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How does one learn about "I'm too dumb to learn science so I'll just say gawd did it" Creationism?




By reading or watching/listening to materials on the topic I suppose. I was thinking more in terms of people being ignorant of evolutionary theory and learning about it though.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19383339 - 01/07/14 04:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Then I get some sleep and I'm recharged. Anyhow I'm not nearly as angry as I was.

I understand why most people have a hard time getting pasting evolution vs Bible and most of the time it doesn't bother me.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19383346 - 01/07/14 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The idea I am currently toying with has to do with words being the first ontological object and there being an inverse correlation between the number of words and their relatively creative efficacy.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19383668 - 01/07/14 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Is this that thing where it's like you come up with a word for something like a tree. Suddenly you need a word for one, a specific, multiples past present this and that. Boom, fucking complexity and understandimg. Fascinating stuff man.


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