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Trivial Mindstate
    #19381961 - 01/07/14 11:30 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

If I say "I'm not confused, I don't know what I want to do" would you say that's a contradiction?

sidenotes- my mind is usually never 'made up' & I don't see any background story to this question.


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: drivenquestion]
    #19382006 - 01/07/14 11:40 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

not necessarily but possibly. :haha:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: Icelander]
    #19382144 - 01/07/14 12:11 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

you're depth conception must be great, could you possibly elaborate?


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: drivenquestion]
    #19382234 - 01/07/14 12:31 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I'm inclined to think that if you feel an urge to do something but are unsure what it is, you're confused about what to do.

If someone barges into your head space, questioning what you want to do, and you're bowing to the suggestion that you should be doing something but don't feel any particular inclination yourself, you're perhaps confused about your individuality and social expectations.

Confusion is to be expected in anyone who questions their motivations and existence in general in the midst of social pressures.


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #19382470 - 01/07/14 01:31 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

it's as good a beginning as you could hope for.


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: drivenquestion]
    #19382520 - 01/07/14 01:41 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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drivenquestion said:
you're depth conception must be great, could you possibly elaborate?





Do I really need to?:sad:

One might not know what to do due to lack of information. That is not confusion imo.


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: drivenquestion]
    #19382631 - 01/07/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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drivenquestion said:
"I'm not confused, I don't know what I want to do"
would you say that's a contradiction?





being confused is when yourself freedom is through things existence in life ..

like willing is always to freedom, so willing to not exist or willing to be real more .. so never by doing anything objectively

doing is always to everything which could be related to needs like in our conditions, we need to work and do our lives and our positive ends of being constantly
but what you need is surely what you know the best


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: absols]
    #19389967 - 01/08/14 06:46 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I'm trying to get down to the real knitty gritty here. I want to know why is this not a statement of denial in every sense of the word. In reality its not a defensible statement, right?


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: drivenquestion]
    #19391205 - 01/08/14 11:27 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

We could always check the dictionary...

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conĀ·fuse  [kuhn-fyooz]
verb (used with object), conĀ·fused, conĀ·fusĀ·ing.
1.
to perplex or bewilder: The flood of questions confused me.
2.
to make unclear or indistinct: The rumors and angry charges tended to confuse the issue.
3.
to fail to distinguish between; associate by mistake; confound: to confuse dates; He always confuses the twins.
4.
to disconcert or abash: His candor confused her.
5.
to combine without order; jumble; disorder: Try not to confuse the papers on the desk.




I think it depends on the circumstances. If we change your statement to say "I'm not confused about x, I'm unclear as to what I want to do about x," then this would be a contradiction based on point 2 of the definition above. But this only addresses the specific case.

Based on the breadth of the definition, I suspect everyone is confused in a general sense unless they carry no mistaken associations in mind, so any denial of confusion is bullshit to me, regardless of whether one thinks they know what to do or not.

The definition suggests that confusion is both an emotional state and an error in judgement. Based on the latter, everyone is likely confused if they've made a habit of making judgements.

If you've withheld judgement and hence avoided making mistaken associations AND you don't feel perplexed or bewildered AND you haven't combined things without order, then maybe you're not confused. But it seems to be the nature of our minds to combine things without order, so...

I guess you should pick your definition of confusion, and choose whether 'confused' in your statement refers to the specific case or a general state of mind and sort it out from there.

Confused yet? :confused::tongue:


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #19391550 - 01/09/14 01:01 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

i remember this book where the little girl imagines a mental house which she can move through and store her memories in..

it seems like a great technique to teach kids when growing up.. i wish I had a mental house (my head/memory is a mess).. :sad:

i guess myths & stuff are like mental houses.. collective touch points for ppl to store important ideas about the world


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: drivenquestion]
    #19391872 - 01/09/14 02:58 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

drivenquestion said:
I'm trying to get down to the real knitty gritty here. I want to know why is this not a statement of denial in every sense of the word. In reality its not a defensible statement, right?




then it is like a reaction of an assumption that everybody must do whatever he wants .. as the reason for you to say, I don't know what I want to do, instead of saying, I don't want anything .. I am myself, which is certainly beyond .. what willing is always from not being so for always more clearly being negative..


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Re: Trivial Mindstate [Re: drivenquestion]
    #19391975 - 01/09/14 03:34 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

In each glance you can find more or less to admire.

Some directions merit more discovery.

Some are more stuffed with triviality, fake layers over fake layers with people acting like they would die protecting the integrity of the empty junk.

You will find your way like that.


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