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TrippyTubby
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Panaeolus Cinctulus
#19379166 - 01/06/14 08:12 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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So this past summer, I stumbled apon a field loaded with red caps. I was super excited, but I only made it up there like 2 or 3 times before the field dried out due to heavy drought conditions we had. I live in Northwest Arkansas, and am looking forward to getting up there this spring and do some hunting. Does anyone actually have experience with Panaeolus Cinctulus? I took them twice last year, first time was about 40 grams fresh and I had a super light trip. 2nd time was about 30 grams fresh in a tea and didnt trip at all. Do I need to be taking a much larger dose for these mushrooms?
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...red caps? Panaeolus cinctulus has a two-tone brown cap, mottled black gills at maturity, a black spore print (not deep brown), and a reddish stem with white pruinescence. You likely found Panaeolus foenisecii and misidentified them.
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TrippyTubby
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: suchen]
#19379327 - 01/06/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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yeah they werent actually red. Ive just heard of people calling them that, not sure why. They were def cintulus. Ive just been wondering what peoples experiences with them have been. Ive hardly found any trip reports online from them
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If you are certain they were Panaeolus cinctulus, 40 fresh grams should have been plenty (wow that's a lot of mushrooms to eat raw!) for a moderate to heavy trip. Perhaps you could try upping your dosage to 60 or even 70 grams fresh.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: suchen]
#19379598 - 01/06/14 09:38 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Yeah Im deffinetly am upping it next time. Im also gonna dry them instead of eating them fresh. Ill probably do 10 grams dried the next time i trip from Pans. I've read that they can be considerably weaker than cubes. I normally trip on about 6-7 grams dried of cubes so I think 10 of pans should do me nicely.
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Wow that's quite a dose of cubes. You should have led with that info! Haha. 10 dry grams of subbs may indeed be your answer.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: suchen]
#19381678 - 01/07/14 10:22 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I found some potent Pan.cincts that only took about 3g.dried for a nice level 2-3 on the trip scale. They were found in a goat pen. Poop cincts
   
Then thiers the cincts in well irrigated lawns.In my experince they are not as potent,taking around 5-10g.is usally required. Lawn cincts
 
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: Lepkaun]
#19381719 - 01/07/14 10:32 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I think the best name is P. cinctulus, the Agaricus subbalteatus description is garbage & I don't think Alan ever actually considered the reasons Gerhardt used P. cinctulus... There is no type material for P. cinctulus, but there is a epitype and iconotype (Drawing) which Gerhardt said clearly shows his concept of P. cinctulus. I'm not sure anyone here has actually seen it... I don't know if the type collection for P. subbalteatus still exists or not.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: Byrain]
#19381935 - 01/07/14 11:22 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Byrain said: I think the best name is P. cinctulus, the Agaricus subbalteatus description is garbage & I don't think Alan ever actually considered the reasons Gerhardt used P. cinctulus... There is no type material for P. cinctulus, but there is a epitype and iconotype (Drawing) which Gerhardt said clearly shows his concept of P. cinctulus. I'm not sure anyone here has actually seen it... I don't know if the type collection for P. subbalteatus still exists or not.
 Thanks for info Byrain.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: Byrain]
#19382035 - 01/07/14 11:47 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Byrain said: I think the best name is P. cinctulus, the Agaricus subbalteatus description is garbage & I don't think Alan ever actually considered the reasons Gerhardt used P. cinctulus... There is no type material for P. cinctulus, but there is a epitype and iconotype (Drawing) which Gerhardt said clearly shows his concept of P. cinctulus. I'm not sure anyone here has actually seen it... I don't know if the type collection for P. subbalteatus still exists or not.
thanks for your input!
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#19413416 - 01/13/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: stevo]
#19413509 - 01/13/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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A quick boil and then make some tea!That should kill just about anything that you are worried about,and you wont lose much potency Works just fine for me.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: stevo]
#19413540 - 01/13/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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If the mushrooms were not visibly rotten you should be fine.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus [Re: stevo]
#19417023 - 01/14/14 11:54 AM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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I've made tea several times before,and got high every time. But never had my tea "turn blue" why is this?? The shrooms were potent so I don't understand.Some of the strongest cube tea I drank never turned blue. It tasted real shroomy though. I made the tea out of an 1/8,and split it between me and two other friends. We fryed for six hours with effects very much like LSD(great visuals). My buddy vomited ten minutes after drinking it then BLAST off! I will never forget that trip very intense and hardcore.
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