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funton
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I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable?
#19379107 - 01/06/14 08:04 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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The other day I was soaking grains overnight to use and some how I missed a jar, and now they have been soaking for about 4 days now. They stink pretty bad. I don't know if thats just how they smell after days soaking or if its bacteria or what, and while it's not a big deal to toss them, I'd hate to waste them if they can be PC'd and salvaged!
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: funton]
#19379111 - 01/06/14 08:05 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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toss them out
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Stromrider
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: funton]
#19379114 - 01/06/14 08:05 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Don't waste your time. Soak no more than 24 hours.
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twistedty
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: Stromrider]
#19379121 - 01/06/14 08:06 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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noooooooo
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mushrume man
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: Stromrider]
#19379126 - 01/06/14 08:06 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Bacteria will actually make more endospores if left too long in soak
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: mushrume man]
#19379134 - 01/06/14 08:08 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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They might be ok. If you are trying to make moonshine
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twistedty
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: MudaFuka]
#19379147 - 01/06/14 08:10 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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MudaFuka said: They might be ok. If you are trying to make moonshine
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funton
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: twistedty]
#19379346 - 01/06/14 08:40 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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LOL, thanks guys, to the garbage they go!
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bootster


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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: funton]
#19379538 - 01/06/14 09:26 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Compost them if you can. They'd probably be great for that.
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Shr00mZ
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: bootster]
#19379584 - 01/06/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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I soaked some for 48+ they worked just fine. Never know til you try.
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CMOS
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: Shr00mZ]
#19379653 - 01/06/14 09:50 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Yep when I first started I would do my birdseed for like 3 days. (gross) Most would work, but was hard to get them to not clump, and I would rinse them before the simmer. They would smell like shit and colonize slow too.
Now I do like 8hrs with rye. If I had to go longer than that I would put them in the fridge and change the water out every so often.
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: CMOS]
#19379662 - 01/06/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Shr00mZ said: I soaked some for 48 they worked just fine. Never know til you try.
ya if they dont smell fermented and nasty.
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PocketRevolution
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: twistedty]
#19379750 - 01/06/14 10:07 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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If you PC them, your whole house will smell like that. (Old cheese and toe fungus)
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funton
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: PocketRevolution]
#19379933 - 01/06/14 10:39 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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EEEK, I'll definitely pass on the cheesy fungus LOL I tossed them in the woods, they are mother natures problem now!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: Stromrider]
#19379966 - 01/06/14 10:45 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Stromrider said: Don't waste your time. Soak no more than 24 hours.
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Gr13nMushDude
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: mushrume man]
#19380043 - 01/06/14 11:01 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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mushrume man said: Bacteria will actually make more endospores if left too long in soak
Correct me if im wrong but bacteria don't make spores they split and your thinking of molds. Also if the grains are holding together and not falling apart and mush from pc I would try it no point in wasting it something tells me if it meets that standered it would be fine.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: Gr13nMushDude]
#19380055 - 01/06/14 11:04 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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You're wrong. Bacteria make endospores.
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cronicr



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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19380058 - 01/06/14 11:05 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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and fast!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: cronicr]
#19380072 - 01/06/14 11:07 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Gr13nMushDude
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19380082 - 01/06/14 11:09 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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learin lol
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PussyFart
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19380099 - 01/06/14 11:14 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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cronicr



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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: PussyFart]
#19380101 - 01/06/14 11:14 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: Gr13nMushDude]
#19380110 - 01/06/14 11:16 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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mushrume man said: Bacteria will actually make more endospores if left too long in soak
Correct me if im wrong but bacteria don't make spores they split and your thinking of molds. Also if the grains are holding together and not falling apart and mush from pc I would try it no point in wasting it something tells me if it meets that standered it would be fine.
Well the bacteria actually become the endospores in microscopic areas that become depleted of nutrients while the rest continue to reproduce, they don't actually produce spores like a mold would. You can start finding an increase in endospores in as little as 15 hours.
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: PussyFart]
#19380134 - 01/06/14 11:21 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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This guy needs to be banned.
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PussyFart
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19380222 - 01/06/14 11:49 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Seriously.......
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Gr13nMushDude
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: PussyFart]
#19380243 - 01/06/14 11:55 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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my bad ill leave and stop trying see ya
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cronicr



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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: Kizzle]
#19380384 - 01/07/14 12:40 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Gr13nMushDude said: my bad ill leave and stop trying see ya
y leave? chin up keep posting stuff and getting corrected, you learn andQuote:
Kizzle said:
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Gr13nMushDude said:
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mushrume man said: Bacteria will actually make more endospores if left too long in soak
Correct me if im wrong but bacteria don't make spores they split and your thinking of molds. Also if the grains are holding together and not falling apart and mush from pc I would try it no point in wasting it something tells me if it meets that standered it would be fine.
Well the bacteria actually become the endospores in microscopic areas that become depleted of nutrients while the rest continue to reproduce, they don't actually produce spores like a mold would. You can start finding an increase in endospores in as little as 15 hours.
so do i
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funton
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: cronicr]
#19380737 - 01/07/14 02:48 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Thanks again everyone! Especially Frank! Because I am currently working on using your teks.
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: funton]
#19380762 - 01/07/14 03:02 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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funton said: EEEK, I'll definitely pass on the cheesy fungus LOL I tossed them in the woods, they are mother natures problem now!
Like that old Spinal Tap tune "Stinkin' up the Great Outdoors"!
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Re: I have rye berries that have been soaking for about 4 days now, and they REEK.... still usable? [Re: John in WI]
#19380985 - 01/07/14 05:20 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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yeah eww after 24 my reek so bad I cant work with them
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