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highc
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frozen grains
#19378611 - 01/06/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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So I obtained some pretty sterilized grain jars. During shipping some of them got pretty chilly and froze in spots. Should I sit them at room temp for a while before knocking up?
A search yielded little. Most people were saying their colonized jars had frozen. These haven't been inoculated yet.
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19378618 - 01/06/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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that is an odd one,but i would waitfor room temp for sure
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19378629 - 01/06/14 06:36 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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probably just let them thaw out and inoculate ,but i would re PC them just to make sure they are fully sterilized one question why didn't you make you own?
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highc
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itsaconspiracy said: probably just let them thaw out and inoculate ,but i would re PC them just to make sure they are fully sterilized one question why didn't you make you own?
I usually do. The holidays kind of drained me by the time my pressure cooker went up. That will set me back about 3 or 400 until I'm able to get another one in a month or two. I need to get 2014 rolling though so I got some from a vendor.
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19378667 - 01/06/14 06:43 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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just steam it for an hour it's already been through the pc cycle so that should cut it no problem
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19378700 - 01/06/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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damn dude that sucks which one are you getting thats so darn expensive mine only costed $60? (presto 16 quart and fits 7 quart jars). Plus that'll work too.
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I agree, just steam them for now, but wait for the glass to warm up so they don't shatter. Also, I love the emperor scorpion in your sig. Is that yours?
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highc
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itsaconspiracy said: damn dude that sucks which one are you getting thats so darn expensive mine only costed $60? (presto 16 quart and fits 7 quart jars). Plus that'll work too.
2 all american 30quart cookers. O yea I need that much!
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Sgt. Pepper said: I agree, just steam them for now, but wait for the glass to warm up so they don't shatter. Also, I love the emperor scorpion in your sig. Is that yours?
Cool cool. And yes that's one of them. Thats Dex. Stalker is in another cage. He's a death stalker and extremely dangerous.
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19378847 - 01/06/14 07:15 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Nice, that's a death stalker? I could swear that looks like an emperor. I've considered buying a death stalker, but then I think about my ferret sneaking out of his cage and knocking over the death stalker cage, releasing a horrible venomous tiny arachnid in my room to kill my darling ferret and myself. Maybe one day...
Back to mushrooms now, if you need to start pressure cooking quick why don't you get a cheap 16 quart presto until you have the money for a nice all American. I'd prefer that over buying premade jars anyday. And I've used nothing but a 16 quart presto and it gets the job done, albeit less efficiently than a large all american.
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highc
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The black one is emperor yes.
Yeah I just may have to get a smaller one ATM.
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19378878 - 01/06/14 07:21 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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it's colder than mars outside my house right now. fucking -38 with wind chill! just a little side note lol. I agree, just steam them and let them cool, I'm sure they're already sterile.
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19378892 - 01/06/14 07:24 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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What does the grain freezing have to do with sterility? You weren't going to steam them if they had not frozen were ya? I would just knock them up.
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I actually have a gravid desert hairy scorpion at the moment, I doubt she won't eat them, but it's still interesting. And a 16 quart really isn't that bad. You can get several dozen done in a couple days if you stay up late.
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Amanita virosa said: What does the grain freezing have to do with sterility? You weren't going to steam them if they had not frozen were ya? I would just knock them up.
i was just saying to steam them if he was worried they weren't sterile, put a frozen jar in hot water it will break
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Re: frozen grains [Re: cronicr]
#19379079 - 01/06/14 07:59 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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We're worried about sterility since it is a presterilized jar, not cause it's cold. Who knows how long it's been sitting around for, an hour of steam sterilizing is just a good safety measure.
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Sgt. Pepper said: And a 16 quart really isn't that bad. You can get several dozen done in a couple days if you stay up late.
so far i've only done 14 grain jars in one day ,but probably could do 21
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highc said: 2 all american 30quart cookers. O yea I need that much!
whoa if you need that much post more grows
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Sgt. Pepper said: And a 16 quart really isn't that bad. You can get several dozen done in a couple days if you stay up late.
so far i've only done 14 grain jars in one day ,but probably could do 21
I've done 36 in 2 days. And if you're doing bags you could probably get more. I can fit at least 10 quarts of birdseed if I'm using bags. I could probably fit 15, but I'm scared the bags will swell and plug the hole that releases pressure.
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itsaconspiracy
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yea thats thats the only reason i haven't tried to do bags yet i'm afraid it might blow or the bag blow from pressure.
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highc
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highc said: 2 all american 30quart cookers. O yea I need that much!
whoa if you need that much post more grows
No serious grows sorry.
I might do up my current grow.
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Re: frozen grains [Re: highc]
#19379880 - 01/06/14 10:28 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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cool
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