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How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins?
    #19378369 - 01/06/14 05:53 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

If the wallet.dat was encrypted then how did the FBI gain access to it to take them?

:confused:

It's from this source that they seized his bitcoins:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/25/fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulbricht-alleged-owner-of-silk-road/

Am I missing something here?


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: teknix]
    #19378387 - 01/06/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

good question.


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: teknix]
    #19378389 - 01/06/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

The pirate obviously didnt have the stomach to kill them feds.


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: teknix] * 3
    #19378393 - 01/06/14 05:57 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

With fuckin' computers and shit, man.


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: something super extreme] * 1
    #19378426 - 01/06/14 06:03 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Computers + Shit = decryption ?


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19378429 - 01/06/14 06:04 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Some sort of wizardry black magic shit I assume


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19378435 - 01/06/14 06:04 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Yes.
Try taking a dump on your computer and it'll give you my bank info.


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19378444 - 01/06/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Yes.
Try taking a dump on your computer and it'll give you my bank info.



no no
first you have to take a REALLY powerful magnet and rub it all over your computer for good luck. THEN you shit on it :thumbup:


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #19378451 - 01/06/14 06:07 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

:thatsayes:


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: something super extreme]
    #19378488 - 01/06/14 06:12 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Well, if they can be cracked open, then doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose?


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: teknix]
    #19378503 - 01/06/14 06:14 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I'm sure they had to please the gods with a human sacrifice.


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19378510 - 01/06/14 06:16 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

If you can open a container, is the container broken? The container is made to contain. And fuck.


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: Icyus]
    #19378906 - 01/06/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

He supplied the needed info for some sort of deal maybe?


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: shLong]
    #19379299 - 01/06/14 08:33 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

From what I have heard, they found his computer while it was logged into various things, they had admin access to silk road aswell. But luckily most important things besides the blackmail doxx on various mods and vendors, everything else was encrypted.


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: snoot] * 1
    #19379322 - 01/06/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Or perhaps these safety mechanisms aren't as secure as everyone thinks? This is the fucking US government were talking about here, a power regime indeed. If there is enough money  in the wallet, which there was, nothing will stop them fuckers from acquiring it


Edited by Magicman69 (01/06/14 08:38 PM)


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19379351 - 01/06/14 08:41 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Or perhaps these safety mechanisms aren't as secure as everyone thinks? This is the fucking US government were talking about here, a power regime indeed. If there is enough money  in the wallet, which there was, nothing will stop them fuckers from acquiring it



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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19379406 - 01/06/14 08:49 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Or perhaps these safety mechanisms aren't as secure as everyone thinks? This is the fucking US government were talking about here, a power regime indeed. If there is enough money  in the wallet, which there was, nothing will stop them fuckers from acquiring it





except in the federal indictment it reiterates actually just how effective most of those measures were, if done right. All those security measures count for shit, when they break threw your door, and confiscate while you're logged into everything. ....


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #19379485 - 01/06/14 09:09 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Or perhaps these safety mechanisms aren't as secure as everyone thinks? This is the fucking US government were talking about here, a power regime indeed. If there is enough money  in the wallet, which there was, nothing will stop them fuckers from acquiring it



You know not of what you speak.



Your right, I don't know jack about cyber security. I just have a hard time believing that the US government, with unlimited funding, couldn't find a way around such security. Because of this, I would never order anything illegal online. I would probably make some sort of personal mistake, and leave myself vulnerable to detection and prosecution. I'm a bit of a paranoid nut too :tinfoil:


Edited by Magicman69 (01/06/14 09:11 PM)


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19379505 - 01/06/14 09:17 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

It's possible that they brute forced the password for his encrypted wallet.
Seriously though. Read through the police report. Crazy shit!


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19379507 - 01/06/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Or perhaps these safety mechanisms aren't as secure as everyone thinks? This is the fucking US government were talking about here, a power regime indeed. If there is enough money  in the wallet, which there was, nothing will stop them fuckers from acquiring it



You know not of what you speak.



Your right, I don't know jack about cyber security. I just have a hard time believing that the US government, with unlimited funding, couldn't find a way around such security. Because of this, I would never order anything illegal online. I would probably make some sort of personal mistake, and leave myself vulnerable to detection and prosecution. I'm a bit of a paranoid nut too :tinfoil:



When it comes to PGP codes, doesn't really matter the funding involved. You can't crack em without the key. But, of course, all they need is the key :lol:


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #19379943 - 01/06/14 10:41 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Maybe something like this?


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #19383348 - 01/07/14 04:04 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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Magicman69 said:
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volcomstoner said:
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Or perhaps these safety mechanisms aren't as secure as everyone thinks? This is the fucking US government were talking about here, a power regime indeed. If there is enough money  in the wallet, which there was, nothing will stop them fuckers from acquiring it



You know not of what you speak.



Your right, I don't know jack about cyber security. I just have a hard time believing that the US government, with unlimited funding, couldn't find a way around such security. Because of this, I would never order anything illegal online. I would probably make some sort of personal mistake, and leave myself vulnerable to detection and prosecution. I'm a bit of a paranoid nut too :tinfoil:



When it comes to PGP codes, doesn't really matter the funding involved. You can't crack em without the key. But, of course, all they need is the key :lol:




right like I said all that is mute when they have access to your computer while its logged into everything. :seeya:


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Re: How did the FBI seize Dread Pirate Roberts Bitcoins? [Re: snoot]
    #19383433 - 01/07/14 04:14 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah, but think about it a minute. DPR would have most likely created the wallet offline with a linux CD to prevent the encryption key from being on the hard-drive at all, I don't really see what being logged in has anything to do with the key?

Either they created a collision address, deciphered the encryption or cracked the key, amirite?

I know a lot is speculation, but considering the source is DPR, I would imagine he had a nice long encryption key.

Also they didn't get it right-away, because it took them around a month before it was announced that they had it.


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