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is it wrong to mix psychedelics?
    #19377878 - 01/06/14 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay I'm just curious, everyone has their own psychomorals. I personally see nothing wrong with mixing LSD and Mushrooms, but I have a few friends who think it's wrong on a spiritual level...  I see it as "how far can it take me" they see it as "you're abusing those dude"

What do you all think? Is it wrong to mix psychedelics? Does mixing the two make me an irresponsible rave kid?


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: slh980]
    #19377967 - 01/06/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think so.
Unless you are mixing things that could put you in danger.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: slh980]
    #19377970 - 01/06/14 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In general pharmacological terms, no it's not wrong at all.

In terms of my personal 'psychomorals', it would depend on why you're mixing them. If you're mixing them just to get 'more fucked up' then personally I wouldn't do it and think it's wrong. But if there are genuinely different subjective spiritual elements that you find from each substance and you wish to see how these interact then I say go for it responsibly!


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: slh980]
    #19377972 - 01/06/14 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hell no.  I have yet to try that combo, but I intend to eventually.  I really like mixing MDMA with acid or shrooms, and have had INCREDIBLY spiritual trips with those.  Spirituality is in the user, not the drugs.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19377978 - 01/06/14 04:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Hell no.  I have yet to try that combo, but I intend to eventually.  I really like mixing MDMA with acid or shrooms, and have had INCREDIBLY spiritual trips with those.  Spirituality is in the user, not the drugs.




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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: slh980]
    #19377981 - 01/06/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As long as the combination isn't dangerous, I don't care.

You can experience things with combinations that you never would with one individual chemical. Sometimes, they even compliment one another.

People have their own 'psychomorals', as you put it, and what constitutes abuse/misuse is subjective.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: Terratic]
    #19378010 - 01/06/14 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I did both at once and it was a definite abuse. I took a hit of acid and 2g 1 hr later then did 2 hits 3 hours in and 3.5g another hour after. Then about 6-8 hours in I down a 7g stem. It was my favorite trip to date. Had ego death and a crazy purge that left me lying on my bathroom floor for an hour or 2. Too disoriented to stand up ahaha.

It started off more visual than shrooms but with that spiritual head fuck shrooms give. Obviously as I did more it got more delusional til I'm ego deathing on my bathroom floor lolol. In that trip I discovered meditation and the ability to accept. Especially when I had to accept a stomach purge that was just dry heaves. I was actually trying to take as big of hits of weed as possible to make me vomit xD. Overall idk why people get so offended for abusing psychedelics. We're all here to have fun right? Isn't that why we take shrooms? Because they're more fun than anything ever (on come down). It's about acceptance and if you can't accept abuse u haven't even half lived.

Almost every trip I always am like just do what you want. Want more drugs? Do more drugs. I always go into it like fear and loathing in Las Vegas. If i took too much... that's when the real lessons begin :wink:


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: Terratic]
    #19378011 - 01/06/14 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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As long as the combination isn't dangerous, I don't care.

You can experience things with combinations that you never would with one individual chemical. Sometimes, they even compliment one another.

People have their own 'psychomorals', as you put it, and what constitutes abuse/misuse is subjective.



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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: Terratic]
    #19378054 - 01/06/14 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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As long as the combination isn't dangerous, I don't care.

You can experience things with combinations that you never would with one individual chemical. Sometimes, they even compliment one another.

People have their own 'psychomorals', as you put it, and what constitutes abuse/misuse is subjective.




I couldn't have put it any better. This is what I've always thought myself.  One thing that I've always liked, considering that psilocin in itself is DMT(4-HO-DMT), is to blast off during the comedown of mushroom trips. Is it to abuse the trip and see how fucked up I can get? No! It's the fact that I'm already on a different plane of consciousness and I want to see what my headspace is really like in there....


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: slh980]
    #19378075 - 01/06/14 04:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I prefer to mix pyschs especially love jedi flippin


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19378092 - 01/06/14 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe your friends don't understand that you can get certain effects from mixing psyches that you wouldn't be able to get from either one alone.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19378098 - 01/06/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I feel like I'm abusing psychedelics every time I use them. Like there's a special power I'm KNOWINGLY unlocking. I feel like everyone is abusing because once you've been there... why do you NEED to go back? You really don't. Except everyone comes back with something new to their lives, or a new way of perceiving the world. If you didn't abuse them you wouldn't have gained a new outlook. Just like how a heroin abuser will have a changed outlook too. Especially one that's gone through the addiction, learned self acceptance, and grew up knowing and accepting the demon inside.

Overall it's the opinions of the user what abuse is. But remember abuse isn't necessarily a bad thing. I doubt any reasonable person would take back the times they abused and learned lessons from it.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19378116 - 01/06/14 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Maybe your friends don't understand that you can get certain effects from mixing psyches that you wouldn't be able to get from either one alone.




I think the main negative viewpoint about mixing psychedelics is a thought that it can mess up the integrity of the experience. Making it less of a psychedelic experience and more of a simplistic high.

It sounds messed up to me. Like listening to two songs at the same time.

(Do not consider MDMA a psychedelic, as another user mentioned. I don't see euphoriants/psychedelics as a bad mix.)


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: s240779]
    #19378135 - 01/06/14 05:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think the main negative viewpoint about mixing psychedelics is a thought that it can mess up the integrity of the experience. Making it less of a psychedelic experience and more of a simplistic high.





Yeah but mixing them is gonna potentiate any spiritual or profound thoughts. There's no way it'll be more of a simplistic high.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19378150 - 01/06/14 05:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah but mixing them is gonna potentiate any spiritual or profound thoughts. There's no way it'll be more of a simplistic high.




And the mechanism that I imagine is that the normal, delicate action on the brain receptors that is produced by only one psychedelic would be replaced with an overly-aggressive action. Which wouldn't necessarily result in adverse effects, but would not have the same dimension that a classic trip would.

I also think there's a big increase in the likelihood for a delusional experience or bad trip.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: slh980]
    #19378176 - 01/06/14 05:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think you should be able to use psychedelics however you want, but if you're going to take bigger leaps then you should be doing it with the right intentions, for your own sake. Although I haven't done this myself, I would think the timing is key... wouldn't want to deal with the onset of one and the comedown of another.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: slh980]
    #19378244 - 01/06/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Okay I'm just curious, everyone has their own psychomorals. I personally see nothing wrong with mixing LSD and Mushrooms, but I have a few friends who think it's wrong on a spiritual level...





hahaha your friends sound fucking weird man. tell em they dont know what they talking about


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: forrest_dweller]
    #19378318 - 01/06/14 05:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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hahaha your friends sound fucking weird man. tell em they dont know what they talking about




Why do they sound weird? I think what's weird is not even understanding where they're coming from. You sound very immature.


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    #19378357 - 01/06/14 05:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck what others say. Do what you think to be right.


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Re: is it wrong to mix psychedelics? [Re: forrest_dweller]
    #19378522 - 01/06/14 06:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Okay I'm just curious, everyone has their own psychomorals. I personally see nothing wrong with mixing LSD and Mushrooms, but I have a few friends who think it's wrong on a spiritual level...





hahaha your friends sound fucking weird man. tell em they dont know what they talking about




lol it has nothing to do with them being weird (though most might consider them that) but more of the fact that they're traditionalists when it comes to psychs. Shit one of my friends, we'll call him Dimitri, he's a painter, and when he's striking up conversations with homeowners, this would be the kick-off "You know what my favorite fruit is? bacon"


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