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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Alexthegreat] * 1
    #27581221 - 12/14/21 02:05 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

yea man that 2nd round was amazing. You could tell the crowd was a bit hesitant at first, but once it was apparent nunes was panicking they started roaring.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244] * 1
    #27584716 - 12/17/21 10:35 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

"Weight-cutting is just sanctioned cheating." - Joe Rogan

Glad he said this recently. I was beginning to feel like the only one who thought this way. Seeing dudes like O'Malley cut weight so he can fight dudes that are 5" shorter than him is just stupid IMO. Also making fighters drain their bodies has to negatively impact their performance.

Random rant, I know. :shrug:


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Ran-D] * 1
    #27593537 - 12/24/21 09:41 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

the rules are the same for everyone so you can't exactly say it isn't fair or cheating. But to your point, in order to compete you have to damage your body, which makes it not worth it for some people.

If weigh-ins were the day of the fight, it would solve the problem, but probably create others that aren't yet coming to mind. I'm sure they have a reason for doing weigh ins a day early..


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244] * 1
    #27598298 - 12/29/21 06:33 AM (2 years, 30 days ago)

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If weigh-ins were the day of the fight, it would solve the problem, but probably create others that aren't yet coming to mind.




It wouldn't- it may be worse.  I wrestled in high school where you would weigh-in an hour before the match.  People would spend over 24 hours cutting 25+ lbs just for a goddamn high school wrestling weigh-in where they sometimes had to wrestle compromised and sick immediately after. 

Think of how bad it would be for something with actual stakes.

I dunno how you fix weight-cutting.  Maybe moving in the direction of ONE championship-type models.  But the UFC isn't addressing it anytime soon.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society] * 1
    #27599121 - 12/29/21 08:17 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

damn i didn't know that about one championship, if it works there it should work elsewhere. I like the idea of guys not being able to cut.

I wonder what The Eagle will do with his new promotion. I heard him talking about how he's gonna do a 165 and 175 division so he's definitely looking to improve the UFC model.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244] * 1
    #27623560 - 01/18/22 12:57 PM (2 years, 10 days ago)

Would love to see Iron Mike and Jake Paul have a fight. Apparently a verbal deal has been struck


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Chromosome] * 2
    #27623612 - 01/18/22 01:56 PM (2 years, 10 days ago)

I was hoping for a paddy pimblet fight with jake paul. If he fights mike its gonna be an exibition like the evander fight. Mikes fighting days are over not saying he couldnt smash jake.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Junky] * 1
    #27629313 - 01/23/22 08:18 AM (2 years, 5 days ago)

Dana White bet all his nuggets on Cyril Gane defeating Francis Ngannou.  Once that wasn't the reality, he ran out the arena with his tail between his legs and had Mick Manyard put the belt around Ngannou.

Dana White didn't even show up for the post-fight press conference.

I know people respect him and the Fertitta brothers because of how they turned around the UFC.  But if the UFC wants to grow up and become more professional, they need to take out the White trash.

What a petty, petty man.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society] * 1
    #27629424 - 01/23/22 10:04 AM (2 years, 5 days ago)

Damn decisions man. Now I'm going to have to hear people complain about how Moreno was "robbed" and how he's the real champion until they do a 4th fight. One of those fights where people would have complained no matter what.


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    #27631780 - 01/25/22 05:46 AM (2 years, 3 days ago)

The Moreno fight was a close fight. I figured it would be one of those, 'gotta beat the champ to be the champ' scenarios where the tie goes to the champ, but I can see where the judges gave more weight to the knockdowns.

I really like how Moreno and Ngannou conduct themselves outside of the octagon  as well. Francis is very articulate for someone with English as their 3rd(?) language. He isn't intimidated by the UFC or the billionaires behind it, he holds his convictions strongly, and he stays respectful with what he says in the media. He's a class act and excellent champion. He made Dana White look like a pouty school girl. I hope he has much success whatever happens after this.

And Moreno, although he says he thought he won, made no excuses and said he will turn the loss into positive motivation. Will be interesting to see what changes he makes for the first ever 4 fight rivalry. Hopefully he takes the belt back, as a Mexican champion with great charisma, he's a real star in the UFC.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244] * 1
    #27679210 - 03/02/22 06:34 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Former UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez was arrested in connection with a shooting in California's Bay Area, police said. 

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Nobody died.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #27680605 - 03/03/22 07:28 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

So Islam Makhachev loses his opponent (Beneil Dariush) at the last minute and fights Bobby Green this past Saturday and steamrolls him.  Calls for title shot (MMA world agrees).

Rafael dos Anjos loses his opponent last minute.  Dana White offers Islam Makhachev, but Islam turns it down.  Understandable if you don't want to force your body to make weight and fight two weekends in a row, right?

Nope.  Dana White is punishing him by making him fight Beneil Dariush instead of getting the title fight.

MMA fans love to say "Love him or hate him, the UFC wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Dana White."  But Jesus fucking Christ, that man is such an unprofessional, petty piece of shit.  Fuck that guy.

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Former UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez was arrested in connection with a shooting in California's Bay Area, police said. 

CNN

Nobody died.




Evidently Cain was trying to kill an accused pedo who assaulted a child in his family.  The accused was in the car with his parents and Cain accidentally shot the dude's stepdad.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society] * 1
    #27680818 - 03/03/22 11:04 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Then again Islam wasn't offered to step in on late notice against Dos Anjos, Islam and his team asked for that fight and then they agreed with UFC to make that fight, Rafael even offered to move it to WW so Islam wouldnt have to cut down to LW and then Islam suddenly decide to pull out without a real reason, I can see why Dana would be frustrated and annoyed about it, it's as if Islam used the opportunity as free publicity for a few days while knowing the whole time that he wasn't gonna step up, in other words pretending to save a card at the expense of the company just to get a few more followers on social media.



I'm not saying this is what he did I'm saying it can easily be seen that way from UFC's point of view. And Islam was never guaranteed any title shot to begin with, he needed to get through Dariush or DosAnjos before he could put himself in line for next shot, so he wasn't robbed of anything, he still needs to beat a top contender to get a title shot.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #27693122 - 03/12/22 09:25 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

It feels to me like the the UFC is terrified of making another star on the level of McGregor that is bigger than the company.

They see that the next McGregor that leads to the next Khabib destroys the monopoly so we can't have that.

Just have to have a bunch of lonely teenagers that lack friends argue about these underpaid athletes on a first name basis as if they were personally involved. That is the market, that is the monopoly.

Lets suck these athletes dry until there is nothing left. MMA is just so pathetic compared to what it could have been.

At this point these guys are barely making more than pro Tekken players.




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    #27693184 - 03/12/22 10:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

The contracts favor the fighters and not the promotions. When you sign a 10 fight deal that doesn't mean you have to fight 10 times, you can say "fuck it" whenever you want and no one can say you're obligated to fight. But the promotion on the other hand is obligated to give you 10 fights regardless how badly you suck and how non entertaining you are, you can basically just go in and tap out right away and the promotion has to pay you what they promised you.


UFC champions make 7-8 figures per fight, top contenders make 6-7 figures per fight, the rest make around 5-6 figures per fight depending on their status. You need to motivate fighters to want to wanna become top contenders and champions, if you give them all the money right away you'll get Conor or Khabib. None of them fights today because why should they? They have 100 millions dollars in the bank and don't want to risk CTE brain damage in the future and who can blame them..


Michael Bisping lost his right eye after Victor Belfort head kicked his retina off, no one is compensating Bisping for losing his eye. CTE brain damage doesn't show while you're fighting actively or 5 years after you retire. You wake up one day suddenly 20 years after you've retired and you're slurring words and forgetting things, most fighters have this in the back of their heads, how much they should get payed is a really complicated question...


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #27693321 - 03/13/22 12:19 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I wish boxing had a UFC so those pansies wouldn’t be able to duck fights.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #27693612 - 03/13/22 10:15 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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The contracts favor the fighters and not the promotions. When you sign a 10 fight deal that doesn't mean you have to fight 10 times, you can say "fuck it" whenever you want and no one can say you're obligated to fight. But the promotion on the other hand is obligated to give you 10 fights regardless how badly you suck and how non entertaining you are, you can basically just go in and tap out right away and the promotion has to pay you what they promised you.




No, they fucking don't.  Where the fuck are you getting this garbage information?  Because of the lawsuit, the contract clauses have been leaked, and they 100% favor the UFC.

The contracts make basically fighters contract workers with ZERO benefits who are OWNED by the UFC.  They are in the USADA pool and must constantly report their whereabouts until they "retire" and even then there are tons of restrictions on them with the contract.

The UFC is not obligated to give them ANY fights.  They can cut them for any reason any time they want.


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    #27693881 - 03/13/22 02:42 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

It's not my fault that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about :shrug:
When UFC 'cuts' fighters that just means they didn't extend their contract please don't comment on how sports contracts work if you don't have clue :thumbup: the UFC can play dirty games like 'not being able to find you an opponent' for a prolonged time but they can't cut you if you have a signed contract and if you didn't do anything yourself to breach the signed agreement. And the organisation is very much obligated to give fighters the amount of fights they have left on their contract or they have to buy them out of the contract.


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #27696579 - 03/15/22 04:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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It's not my fault that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about :shrug:
When UFC 'cuts' fighters that just means they didn't extend their contract please don't comment on how sports contracts work if you don't have clue :thumbup: the UFC can play dirty games like 'not being able to find you an opponent' for a prolonged time but they can't cut you if you have a signed contract and if you didn't do anything yourself to breach the signed agreement. And the organisation is very much obligated to give fighters the amount of fights they have left on their contract or they have to buy them out of the contract.





You are new to UFC, so I will explain clearly:

The contract clauses favor the UFC.  UFC fighters are underpaid contract workers in a high risk occupation under an extremely tight lease at the mercy of the UFC matchmaking system (and the whims of the UFC executives). 

When the fighters lose favor with the UFC due to losing streaks, lack of profitability, not kissing Dana White's ass, etc., the UFC also exerts matchmaking tactics that severely damage the careers of the fighters.  Both the clauses and the tactics used by the UFC are considered unethical and possibly illegal. 

Hence, the contracts have been under dispute for their legality for years now to the extent that the UFC has changed SOME of its tactics. 

Feel free to use Google next time, bud. :wink:


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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society] * 1
    #27696586 - 03/15/22 04:41 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I'm glad you realised you were wrong about UFC cutting fighters while they had a contract, that's not a thing and never had been a thing. Like I said before, when it comes to fulfilling the contracts it actually benefits the fighters because the fighters don't have to fight if they still have fights left on the contract but the UFC has to offer them all the fight they still have left on the contract.


I guess you learned something new :super:


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