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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Ran-D]
#25508102 - 10/03/18 03:43 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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People seem to forget he took out Aldo in 12 seconds, Alvarez, Mendes, Diaz, Poirer, Holloway. How is that not compelling?
Compare that to khabib's 26 and nObody record and inability to finish.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: badchad]
#25509645 - 10/03/18 03:44 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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He has entertaining fights, but his antics, and the UFC's blatant promotion of them due to his marketability, make a mockery of what is supposedly a sport.
And MMA is hardly a sport. It's a regulated, competitive spectacle.
I haven't been paying attention to the pre-fight hype, but if McGregor has won the mental game, he's already won this fight via early KO.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society] 2
#25511065 - 10/04/18 06:52 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow you guys really think Conor has a chance?
i mean he is a superb fighter... one of the best no fucking doubt... he went what? 7 rounds with possibly the best boxer to ever lived? in floyd?
that is all perfectly understandable
but you all do not see the bigger picture..
Khabib The Bear is another type of beast he will dominate Conor on the ground and destroy him for all 5 rounds... how could you all not see this ?
i will come back to this thread after the fight and see what the 2 posters above me have to say about it.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Kinko] 1
#25511187 - 10/04/18 08:23 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Actually, I agree. Traditionally the pure grappler beats the pure striker. There is no reason to believe Conor will win.
But we've said this prior to all Conor's fights. Mendez has too strong of wrestling. Alvarez will use his wrestling, Aldo will use grappling. This has been said before every Conor fight, but he still wins. Everyone believes the key to beating Conor is grappling, but few have been successful.
Khabib looked like garbage his last fight against Iaquinta and marginally better against Barboza, finishing neither. The "beast" of bear can sure lay on top of people like no other.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: badchad]
#25511958 - 10/04/18 01:59 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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McGregor surely has been practicing his ground n pound.. He's not going to go in there empty handed.
I cant remember their name but he brought someone in to prepare for the ground game.
In order to take conor down hes gonna need to get in the pocket without eating a left hook followed up by a right jab.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: badchad]
#25512003 - 10/04/18 02:19 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: wow you guys really think Conor has a chance?
Khabib The Bear is another type of beast he will dominate Conor on the ground and destroy him for all 5 rounds... how could you all not see this ?
i will come back to this thread after the fight and see what the 2 posters above me have to say about it.
It's not like I'm 100% confident of a McGregor victory. I think it's fair to make the betting lines pretty even, actually. If Khabib takes him down and pounds on him for five rounds or submits him, I won't be shocked. If he KOs McGregor in the stand-up, yeah I'll be surprised.
But I agree with some of what badchad said:
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badchad said: Actually, I agree. Traditionally the pure grappler beats the pure striker. There is no reason to believe Conor will win.
But we've said this prior to all Conor's fights. Mendez has too strong of wrestling. Alvarez will use his wrestling, Aldo will use grappling. This has been said before every Conor fight, but he still wins. Everyone believes the key to beating Conor is grappling, but few have been successful.
As the adage goes, every fight starts on the feet. With the exception of panic wrestling when Nate Diaz rocked him and Mendes taking him down, he's been able to keep his fights standing and usually finish his opponents this way.
I'd love to see the little shit get humiliated by Khabib. Hell, I'd love to see him get wheelkick KO'd by Khabib. But McGregor has proven his fight IQ and preparation, so I cautiously pick him to win.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society]
#25512018 - 10/04/18 02:23 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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What do you think is more exhausting?
Constantlyy sprawling to defend a take down or constantly attempting a take down and failing?
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Herbologist]
#25512616 - 10/04/18 06:10 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I say the attempt. When you shoot, your opponent sprawls forcing you to carry his weight.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Herbologist]
#25512701 - 10/04/18 06:38 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: McGregor surely has been practicing his ground n pound...
Ground and pound is done from the top position, which would indicate Conor putting Khabib on his back and no one puts Khabib on his back. Maybe you mean Conor has been practicing sneaky shots off his back that will open up space for him to get back to his feet? From the bottom is the only place Conor will play from if it hits the mat.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: badchad]
#25512705 - 10/04/18 06:40 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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badchad said: I say the attempt. When you shoot, your opponent sprawls forcing you to carry his weight.
But Khabbs wrestling is mostly Greco style he trips his opponents often from the clinch he doesn't "shoot" like most American wrestlers.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Mateja]
#25514367 - 10/05/18 11:08 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I need to watch more Khabib fights on youtube. Honestly, i've barely seen him fight so I dont really know his style other then what people say. Which is that he is a ground guy and a scary one too.
Ground n pound, BJJ from the bottom, I think Conor is preparing for it all.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: badchad] 1
#25516404 - 10/06/18 05:13 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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badchad said: Actually, I agree. Traditionally the pure grappler beats the pure striker. There is no reason to believe Conor will win.
But we've said this prior to all Conor's fights. Mendez has too strong of wrestling. Alvarez will use his wrestling, Aldo will use grappling. This has been said before every Conor fight, but he still wins. Everyone believes the key to beating Conor is grappling, but few have been successful.
Khabib looked like garbage his last fight against Iaquinta and marginally better against Barboza, finishing neither. The "beast" of bear can sure lay on top of people like no other.
i would like to see what your opinion is after the fight ... what will your excuse then be ? was the bear just "lucky" ?
i will be waiting for u here after the fight
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Herbologist]
#25516407 - 10/06/18 05:16 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: What do you think is more exhausting?
Constantlyy sprawling to defend a take down or constantly attempting a take down and failing?
lol are u really asking that? attempting and failing a takedown is 100000x more exhauting then defending a simply take down
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society]
#25516414 - 10/06/18 05:27 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Society said: He has entertaining fights, but his antics, and the UFC's blatant promotion of them due to his marketability, make a mockery of what is supposedly a sport.
And MMA is hardly a sport. It's a regulated, competitive spectacle.
I haven't been paying attention to the pre-fight hype, but if McGregor has won the mental game, he's already won this fight via early KO.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Kinko]
#25518457 - 10/06/18 11:07 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pure fuckery.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Kinko]
#25518459 - 10/06/18 11:08 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said:
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badchad said: Actually, I agree. Traditionally the pure grappler beats the pure striker. There is no reason to believe Conor will win.
But we've said this prior to all Conor's fights. Mendez has too strong of wrestling. Alvarez will use his wrestling, Aldo will use grappling. This has been said before every Conor fight, but he still wins. Everyone believes the key to beating Conor is grappling, but few have been successful.
Khabib looked like garbage his last fight against Iaquinta and marginally better against Barboza, finishing neither. The "beast" of bear can sure lay on top of people like no other.
i would like to see what your opinion is after the fight ... what will your excuse then be ? was the bear just "lucky" ?
i will be waiting for u here after the fight
i called it.. too easy..u guys actually thought Conor had a chance? DISGUSTING
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Kinko]
#25518465 - 10/06/18 11:12 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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The ufc is so fucking gay now.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Ran-D]
#25518469 - 10/06/18 11:14 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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WTF
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Eagle smesh chicken
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Mateja]
#25519027 - 10/07/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Glad I got my pick wrong. Satisfying to see McGregor get clipped on the feet like that in round 2.
McGregor is already demanding a rematch.
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