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You guys see DWs speech at the RNC?
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Exceed19_2000
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Matt87]
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Predictions for 201
--- Main Card --- Ruthless Robbie via KO Thug Nanjumamamamamas Ellenburger Rivera Scoggins
------- prelims below ------ Ed Herman Masvidal Grabowski Reis
Great looking stacked card. Hoping no one gets a injury in the next few days.
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Exceed19_2000 said: Great looking stacked card.
lol
Guess it's not if your just a casual. Sorry no PED Brock or Jones appearances, lol.
I'll be at 203 in person for Alistair leaving with the strap.
Also Rogan re-signed for another year of stateside PPV commentary.
Anyways - WSOF 31 is on NBC sports right now for anyone interesed. Its 11:10pm EST right now
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Ah glass jaw Overeem the king of PED's himself, enjoy it.
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It wasn't PED's, it was just horse meat. Funny, Alistair's technique and performance has improved so much more over his OverRoid days. I will certainly enjoy it. Thanks!
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It's true. Horse meat gives the false appearance of steroid use. Just like deer meat makes you get kidney stones and fail to make it to weigh-ins versus Tyron Woodley.
I'll be rooting for Stipe. Such an enjoyable persona and one of the younger careers in the MMA game. I'd like to see him improve. Isn't training at a high profile MMA gym, which puts some doubt in people's minds that he's reaching his potential.
Alistair's chin has certainly not looked awesome in the fights where he gets clipped.... Bigfoot, Ben, Browne, etc. But in the last three fights, his composure and patience have enabled his striking acumen to shine. It's a shame it took him like 55 MMA fights and several concussive losses, not to mention numerous kick/boxing fights, to get to this point.
If he can keep it together in Cleveland, Stipe might be toast.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society]
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I hope ellenburger gets knocked out quickly. Not trying to watch some apprehensive bull shit for 3 rounds.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244]
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I'm thinking Woodley has way more of a chance of being the new champ than people are giving credit.
I'll be rooting for Lawler though. Love seeing his success.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society]
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Society said: I'm thinking Woodley has way more of a chance of being the new champ than people are giving credit.
Sad to see Lawler TKO, but I'm obviously not surprised. Happy for Woodley. I hope Thompson vs. Woodley is around the corner. 
There's no way that the UFC cuts Matt Brown any time soon, but I was bummed to see this happen to him at this point in his career.
Excellent PPV.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: Society]
#23511561 - 08/05/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looking forward to UFC FN on Saturday on FS1.
Last PPV card was the underdog card winners for sure - I am SO glad I didn't bet at Bovada or anything.
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tyron is an incredible talent for sure. scary explosive, very powerful. hes going to have severe problems in 5 round fights tho, if/when his opponents make it out of the first round or two depending on pace.
really hate that hes trying to pick nick diaz or GSP for his next (AND FIRST) title defense though. he leaped over thompson to get that title shot, its only fair that thompson finally gets his chance at the belt. besides, both diaz and GSP havent found for years, and their last performances left a lot to be desired. if you know you are the best, you should want to fight only the best, which diaz and GSP simply are not any more. i have lost a lot of respect for tyron since he won the belt. there are so many legit contenders in that stacked weight division, and hes asking to fight guys who aren't even ranked. wtf is that?
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As someone who's job it is to fight, Tyrone is looking pushing for the fights with the biggest pay, not for the fights with the best fighters. He just beat 'the best fighter' by knocking out the champion in the very first round.
What does he need to prove?
What he needs to do is cash out as much as possible as quick as possible, because as we've seen, these titles don't stay on champ's waist for very long.
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the mistake in that thought is that its his job to fight. job? no. you and i have jobs. things we do to make money. tyron lives a lifestyle. tyron is on a mission to prove he is the best in the world, just as every champion in the history of champions has done, and same for every champion-to-be (stephen thompson for example). there for, his "job" is to fight the best of the best, because thats what champions do to prove they deserve to be #1. his job is not to pad his record with silly pay day fights. that might be entertaining, but it is very much looked down upon by true fans. if you want to see an entertaining freakshow, go watch the circus. if you want to see the best fighters in the world lay it all on the line and prove they are #1, tune in to the UFC.
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Getting drunk and fighting in bars is a lifestyle.
Once you sign a contract for money and start getting sponsorships and tv/movie/video game deals, you have a job or career.
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La Flama Blanca said: really hate that hes trying to pick nick diaz or GSP for his next (AND FIRST) title defense though. he leaped over thompson to get that title shot
I don't believe he leaped over Thompson. Tyron Woodley was supposed to fight Johny Hendricks as a title contention fight. Hendricks couldn't make it to weigh-ins, and I believe Tyron Woodley was basically informally promised the title shot as a result. So he waited around for it and got it.
Thompson's two fights that are fresh in people's minds occurred while Tyron was waiting. Thompson should be next in line.
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Supachopped719 said: As someone who's job it is to fight, Tyrone is looking pushing for the fights with the biggest pay, not for the fights with the best fighters. He just beat 'the best fighter' by knocking out the champion in the very first round.
What does he need to prove?
Well, in the eyes of the myself and probably a lot of longtime fans, he needs to prove he's a dominant champion by defending his belt against the top guys in his weight class. As many fighters say, it's one thing to get the belt, but you're not a "true champion" until you defend it. This is what marks the legacy of fighters considered the greatest of all time- GSP, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Fedor. They were just facing every top fighter in their division; not hand-picking their opponents based on paycheck.
The recent trend in the UFC is champions (and other fighters too) just vying for "money fights" instead of facing top contenders to create that legacy. Maybe it's the Conor McGregor effect. Obviously this has smart short-term and, if they're lucky, long term financial implications for that particular fighter. And it makes the mainstream fans happy that just want to see the big names.
I say meh to the "money fight" concept. Just like I say meh to almost every immediate title rematch.
But the UFC is a smart business and doesn't prioritize opinions from people like me. And the fighters these days are mostly athletes who want to make as much money in a short-term career that greatly risks their long term health. So they don't listen to me either.
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Supachopped719 said: Getting drunk and fighting in bars is a lifestyle.
Once you sign a contract for money and start getting sponsorships and tv/movie/video game deals, you have a job or career.
silly accusatory jab at me about allegedly getting in bar fights noted. not going to dignify that with any more attention. moving on...
if you do not know that competitive fighting is a lifestyle, i'm sorry but you have 0 actual knowledge about competitive fighting. not trying to be a dick at all, but that is 100% fact. training 3 times per day, 6 days a week is standard among top athletes in this sport. their diet, time, sleep, ect is ALL centered around being a better competitor. does that sound like a job to you? does that sound like what you do for work, or does it sound like 10x the amount of effort you put into your job? the amount of passion a UFC champion has for their "job" as you put it, is likely beyond any passion you've ever experienced. again, no disrespect, those are just the facts.
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Melvin Guillard just got a 1 year non-ped (I'm guessing coke?) suspension from Bellator.
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Saying that mma isn't Tyron Woodly's job is pretty ridiculous. You can make the argument that its a lifestyle, very well...it's also his job by literal definition of "job". If you think about it, that's the best job you could have...one that suits your preferred lifestyle.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244]
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Supachopped719 said: Getting drunk and fighting in bars is a lifestyle.
Once you sign a contract for money and start getting sponsorships and tv/movie/video game deals, you have a job or career.
silly accusatory jab at me about allegedly getting in bar fights noted. not going to dignify that with any more attention. moving on...
if you do not know that competitive fighting is a lifestyle, i'm sorry but you have 0 actual knowledge about competitive fighting. not trying to be a dick at all, but that is 100% fact. training 3 times per day, 6 days a week is standard among top athletes in this sport. their diet, time, sleep, ect is ALL centered around being a better competitor. does that sound like a job to you? does that sound like what you do for work, or does it sound like 10x the amount of effort you put into your job? the amount of passion a UFC champion has for their "job" as you put it, is likely beyond any passion you've ever experienced. again, no disrespect, those are just the facts.




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amp244 said: Saying that mma isn't Tyron Woodly's job is pretty ridiculous. You can make the argument that its a lifestyle, very well...it's also his job by literal definition of "job". If you think about it, that's the best job you could have...one that suits your preferred lifestyle.
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