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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244]
#21607434 - 04/28/15 03:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, I did say that....
Is there something you wanna ask me???
Anyway, to answer your "question", Jon jones and Anderson silva are UNDOUBTEDLY the two greatest fighters of all time. If you were to ask me who is the undisputed greatest fighter of all time, I couldn't make a decision.
anderson silva is widely considered the greatest fighter of all time, however, that legacy is over. Jon jones has years left in his career and will soon surpass Anderson as the greatest ever.
So yes, I often refer to either of them as the greatest FIGHTER of all time.
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the ufc should take jones's belt for being a fuck up....
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: jboredone]
#21607551 - 04/28/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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the spider's legacy means nothing now that he was busted for roiding, the drugs he was on causes brittle bones which is most likely why his leg broke in the first place, and the excuse for using them to heal doesn't pan out for the same reason, not to mention he would have used the more well known ones if he wanted muscle, not obscure ones to try to pass a test.
Anyways, what the spider did while on roids was amazing, but still, it means nothing when it was against the rules. We all have seen what happens when it became against the rules for TRT, all the people using went to shit, looked like 60 year old men, people who 6 months earlier had highlight reelz similar to silva.
If you look really closely, you'll notice alot of other people have went to shit during this same time period, they were most likely using as well.
The goat is, and always will be, fedor, with Igor Vovchanchyn a runner up both of which would have destroyed silva. Even right now, well past their primes, both would still smash silva to a pulp. As for Jon, he might have gave fedor some trouble, but thing is, jon only looks good against people half his size. He's a HW that cuts to LHW, anyone in the HW division will give him trouble, thats why Gus looked so good against him, thats why rumble smashed Gus, thats why rumble will do well against jon, maybe not win, but easily could. Thats why jon couldn't do anything to DC. He good, not great, when he doesn't have his "advantage". Thats why fedor and igor were so good, alot of their fights, they fought with a disadvantage
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21607636 - 04/28/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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while your last statement was clutch (that fedor n igor fought at a disadvantage, which is true, n major props for that), lets not forget that jon jones is a legitimate fighter.
and trust me, I am a JON JONES HATER. I watch his fights on the edge of my seat, just HOPING someone takes that arrogant fucker out. however, when you say hes a heavyweight that cuts to light heavyweight, and anyone in the heavyweight division will give him trouble is absolutely false. don't forget that Daniel cormier is a NATURAL heavyweight. and he went 14-0 in the heavyweight division, beating names such as bigfoot silva, josh Barnett, soa palelei, all ufc fighters to name a few before making the cut down. on fight night after weigh ins, you better believe Daniel cormier has hydrated himself back to being a true heavyweight.
jon jones isn't the best striker, nor is he the best wrestler, nor bjj practitioner. what jon jones is good at, is nullifying any of the advantages you have over him. and he does possess the skills and fight IQ to take you out ANYWHERE. THATS what makes him the best.
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right but u forget jon jones didn't do shit to DC, and DC didn't do shit to him, proving my point. I didn't say jones sucked, i said hes good, not GREAT, when he doesn't have his advantage. That said, DC clearly wasn't himself, he should have gotten some takedowns. He's only had 2 fights with people his size, those are the ONLY fights u can discuss regarding nullifying his opponents, and he only did it to 1 of them. And sadly he will be more well known for his eye pokes than how well he nullifies his opponents because thats what he does when he starts to feel he can't do that, he has to cheat. I actually sent herb dean a tweet before that fight about eye pokes, and if u watch that fight carefully you'll notice he gave jones alot more shit than he usually gets for it, and look carefully at jones face when he does, he has a oh shit moment.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21607730 - 04/28/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ive had this discussion many times with people n it usually just goes nowhere, and don't get it twisted, im not trying to be confrontational, the more the merrier in this thread! I enjoy talking with everyone.
but the whole "dc clearly wasn't himself, he should've gotten some takedowns" is just silly. like I said earlier, jones is the dude because he nullifies peoples games. dc simply couldn't impose his will because jon is that good.
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get ready for a big announcement today or tomorrow boys.
Jones, 27, is charged with leaving the scene of a hit-and-run accident which occurred in Albuquerque early Sunday morning. According to the APD arrest warrant, Jones ran a red light and drove a rented Buick SUV into another car, which then collided with a third vehicle. Jones allegedly left his car, ran a short distance away and returned to grab cash from the vehicle before fleeing again.
Upon searching Jones’ car, officers found a pipe containing marijuana, according to the police report. An off-duty police officer was present at the scene of the accident and identified Jones.
On Monday, it was revealed that the driver of the car with which Jones collided, a woman named Vanessa Sonnenberg, suffered a broken arm in the accident. Under New Mexico state law, this elevates the charge from a misdemeanor to a felony -- “leaving the scene of an accident involving death or personal injuries” -- which carries a maximum penalty of three years in jail, as well as fines.
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i edited my post, reread it, also u can stop pretending to be a jones hater
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21608698 - 04/28/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, I'll agree with some of your points, n yes, I am a jon jones hater, don't get it twisted. I think he's a phony, arrogant fool.
Jones had a tough fight with Gustafson because stylistically he was a bad fight for Jon, not because they were the same size. Gus is a strong boxer WITH good wrestling offense/defense. Not to mention I think jones went into that fight SERIOUSLY underestimating Alex, as i did myself. But to say he's good, not great is crazy. The dude has faced a murderers row of title defenses, compared to someone like Anderson silva. The only legitimate no-challenge for Jon was chael sonnen.
Does anyone else find it amusing that the victim in the hit n run is named sonnenberg? Lol
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Fedor vs Silva or Jones?? All three were/are champions in different weight classes. Of course Fedor would smash Anderson, that's like saying Jon Jones would smash Demetirius Johnson.
And if two people can be the greatest fighter of all time then I guess we can all just be right about whatever we say.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244]
#21608848 - 04/28/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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And plenty of fighters have doubted Jones, talked shit, subsequently recanted all their nonsense, and took initiative to get in front of a television camera and tell the whole world that Jon Jones is the real deal. Cormier didn't make any excuses. Sonnen didn't make any excuses. They both admit that Jones deserves all the credit he gets.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244]
#21608865 - 04/28/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Any reason in particular you wanna bicker about me saying two fighters were the greatest of all time? Does it really bother you that much? I explained myself after your bitch ass passive aggressive comment, yet you continue. You bored buddy? Or is it just one of those misery loves company things?
How about this, for their weight classes they are the greatest ever. And whoever you think is the greatest ever is the greatest ever. We good?
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244]
#21608873 - 04/28/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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before jones was anybody, people were trying to say silva was the goat and would beat fedor, hell they still say it, even tho silva himself said fedor would whoop his ass, some people are just crazy.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21608979 - 04/28/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whoa whoa whoa buddy you don't have to get all butt hurt, it'll be ok. Don't get mad at me because you made two conflicting comments and I simply called it out. You can't just make two contradicting statements and expect everyone to download your explanation telepathically. And your explanation doesn't excuse the dumbass comments, it just sheds a bit of light on your stubbornness. I wasn't asking you any questions, although you decided to answer one you thought was implied. I was simply highlighting the fact that two people cannot be the greatest fighter of all time. That's ignorant. Two people can be the greatest fighters, but not the greatest fighter. And please do not try to justify your dumbass reasoning. Logic and proper syntax do not agree with your use of the English language.
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How about this, for their weight classes they are the greatest ever.
Ahhh much better. A qualified statement. So Jones is the greatest ever in LHW and Silva is the greatest at 185. Very good Mad Scientist, I think we made some progress here today!
And to answer your question, I am bored. If I wasn't on here agitating you, I'd probably be talking about how Rousey would smash Mayweather in a street fight. Either way I'm having a meaningless conversation with seemingly illiterate people to pass the time.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21609005 - 04/28/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: before jones was anybody, people were trying to say silva was the goat and would beat fedor, hell they still say it, even tho silva himself said fedor would whoop his ass, some people are just crazy.
Damn I didn't even know people were that hard on Silva's nuts. Yea man that is crazy. People get all hyped up when they see domination and they start getting a little ridiculous. Like when they were talking about the St.Pierre vs Silva fight. Pierre would have gotten fucked up. Or Mayweather vs Rousey in an mma fight. There are people that are so hard on Mayweather's nuts that they think he would not only beat Rousey in mma, but any of the ufc's 135 lb men as well.
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244] 1
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Yeah, you must be bored. Sitting around trying to nitpick a meaningless conversation goes to show just that. And youre sadly mistaken if you're calling me illiterate. I'm not sure you even comprehend the definition of the word to be using it in that context.
It's hard to gauge if you're being a passive aggressive jerkoff or if you're just fucking with me now. Either way, I'm over it. Let's go back to not clogging up this thread with meaningless banter. Have a good day homie
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: amp244]
#21609024 - 04/28/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yah mayweather in MMA is stupid, he's a defensive fighter but his punches would come so quick and accurate i could see him putting rousey out, if she managed to slip that 10 or 20 punches on her way to closing the distance, mayweather would lose his arm.
But he'd most likely lose to all the men, unless some were stupid enough to box him
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21609032 - 04/28/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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James toney who is considered one of the top 5 middleweights of all time tried his hand in mma n we all saw how that worked out, lol.
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yah against a guy, who slipped the punches, he did exactly what i just got done saying lol, he didn't box with him
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Re: Any UFC fans 'round here? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21609127 - 04/28/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok ok, you are not completely illiterate, you can read and write a little. But your literacy does come into question when you are this inept at communicating textually. Either way, its no big deal man. I'm not trying to be a bully. I know that internet bullying is the same as bullying in school so I'm sorry.
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