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fourleaf033
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lemon tek 50/50
#19374359 - 01/05/14 07:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I was doing some reading about lemon tek, and how it is a more potent trip, but doesnt last as long. What if u did 2g of lemon tek and 2g of just dried cubes. Would it be strong and long? I think I will try this when my fruits are done.
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there is a search bar for a reason.
in a nut shell, shrooms contain psilocybin and psilocin. psilocybin is what makes you trip. psilocin turns into psilocybin in your body as you digest them. lemon juce turns psilocin into psilocybin without you body having to do it. witch = a stronger, shorter trip.
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I think it is the opposite, psilocybin gets converted to psilocin. OP, doing 2 grams of lemon tek can be strong on its own. Personally I would take that into account when choosing how you are gonna dose. Maybe wait to see how hard it hits you before you take more
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danlennon3 said: I think it is the opposite, psilocybin gets converted to psilocin.
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: woaronun]
#19376311 - 01/06/14 08:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I realize what the two different chemicals do. Im just saying would doing half and half make the strong trip longer...? And I did search around for a similar thread, but I didn't see anything. Post a link asking the same question.
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Lemon tek is a myth Keep in mind your stomach acid is 1000 times stronger than citric acid...
Basically, using a weak acid helps solubilize the active ingredients ... I.e., same thing as making tea... As it's more readily available when taken, will come on quicker and feel like it's stronger...
Doesn't to make more active ingredients and doesn't convert psilocybin to psilocin or vice versa
Your body will convert psilocybin to psilocin, which is the actual psychoactive chemical. Needs an enzyme or a strong acid to do that... Not a weak acid... But again, your body will do that so....
Urban ledgend... Combined with faulty logic and placebo effect and stoned users... Whoa... Trippn balls dude
Anyway... A lot of people have a lot if ideas on the topic... Above is just mine
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: HarryL]
#19377238 - 01/06/14 01:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This true ^ ? I didn't know that, any sources?
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: woaronun]
#19377245 - 01/06/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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woaronun said:
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danlennon3 said: I think it is the opposite, psilocybin gets converted to psilocin.

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Yeah, your body (or the citric acid in lemonjuice) removes a phosphoryl group and turns the psilocybin into psilocyn.
Never done a lemon tek. I'd rather let my body do the work and let the levels of psilocyn in my blood rise gently instead of as fast as possible. Compare it to floating into a trip vs being launched into one, much larger chance of becoming overwhelmed in the latter.
Feel free to experiment, but you'll be better off without lemontekking imo.
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: HarryL]
#19377852 - 01/06/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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HarryL said: Lemon tek is a myth Keep in mind your stomach acid is 1000 times stronger than citric acid...
Basically, using a weak acid helps solubilize the active ingredients ... I.e., same thing as making tea... As it's more readily available when taken, will come on quicker and feel like it's stronger...
Doesn't to make more active ingredients and doesn't convert psilocybin to psilocin or vice versa
Your body will convert psilocybin to psilocin, which is the actual psychoactive chemical. Needs an enzyme or a strong acid to do that... Not a weak acid... But again, your body will do that so....
Urban ledgend... Combined with faulty logic and placebo effect and stoned users... Whoa... Trippn balls dude
Anyway... A lot of people have a lot if ideas on the topic... Above is just mine
Don't hate the messenger
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I have lemontek'd many times and i can tell you it is not a placebo effect it hits faster, harder, and lasts a shorter amount of time. Prefect if your not trying to be shrooming all night. A nice 1.7-2.2 in a lemontek is a very nice in control trip and your back in about 3 hours.
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: HarryL]
#19377901 - 01/06/14 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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HarryL said: Lemon tek is a myth Keep in mind your stomach acid is 1000 times stronger than citric acid...
Basically, using a weak acid helps solubilize the active ingredients ... I.e., same thing as making tea... As it's more readily available when taken, will come on quicker and feel like it's stronger...
Doesn't to make more active ingredients and doesn't convert psilocybin to psilocin or vice versa
It totally does. Psilocybin is nothing more than a psilocin molecule with a phospate group. acid-catalyzed dephosphorylation gets rid of that group and turns it into psilocin.
Edit: Put very simple, just like the enzymes in your liver (which are waaaaaay more effective in metabolizing psilocybin) acids can "kick off" a small piece of the chemical structure of psilocybin, turning it into the one which affects the 5-HT receptors in our brains.
Edited by MightyMustache (01/06/14 04:05 PM)
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fourleaf033
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This thread wasnt started to debate weather or not lemon tek worked or not. But what if you did have lemon tek half not...that's the original question.
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Well if you want a heavy (and at that dose quite possibly overwhelming) onset, go with a lemon tek. If you want a normal onset, don't. If you want both, do both.
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OP, you would have a trip longer than 4g lemon tek'd, but not as intense. \
or, a trip more intense than 4g dried, but not as long.
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: jesslet]
#19378588 - 01/06/14 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Soooo lemon tek is a myth or not....? Ill still prolly dose that way any way I enjoy a nice sour homade ice tea any way.
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I personally i believe it works i get a stronger trip imo, and its my favorite tek to use.
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: bowserk]
#19380315 - 01/07/14 12:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It works. But no it won't make your strong trip last longer. You will have a strong trip for over an hour then its going to come down and level off on your 2 grams.
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: HarryL]
#19380473 - 01/07/14 01:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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HarryL said: Lemon tek is a myth Keep in mind your stomach acid is 1000 times stronger than citric acid...
Basically, using a weak acid helps solubilize the active ingredients ... I.e., same thing as making tea... As it's more readily available when taken, will come on quicker and feel like it's stronger...
Doesn't to make more active ingredients and doesn't convert psilocybin to psilocin or vice versa
Your body will convert psilocybin to psilocin, which is the actual psychoactive chemical. Needs an enzyme or a strong acid to do that... Not a weak acid... But again, your body will do that so....
Urban ledgend... Combined with faulty logic and placebo effect and stoned users... Whoa... Trippn balls dude
Anyway... A lot of people have a lot if ideas on the topic... Above is just mine
Don't hate the messenger
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^You have obviously never lemon teked before. So I suggest you try it before you hand out false info that had nothing to do with the OP.
To all the people saying the trip is shorter, it is but only by about 10-20 minutes. The reason lemon tek seems an hour shorter is because the 30-45 minutes of come up time is gone. After you lemon tek you are basically put right at the hour point of if you had taking dry and it is a lot more intense. with that said I feel that doing 2g lemon tek and 2g dry is a waste. IMO the 2g dry will get lost or lessen the trip in the sense that if your use to a 4g trip, 2g lemon teked and 2g dry will be underwhelming. The 2g lemon tek would come on as a "high 2g trip" and the 2g dry would kick it up to a "normal 4g trip" at about the hour mark for an hour, then it would basically wind down the last hour and have no prolonged affects. That's my opinion but good luck with what ever you choose.
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Re: lemon tek 50/50 [Re: Danner16]
#19380890 - 01/07/14 04:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you highc and Danner16. Finally got a straight answer to the question I asked.
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