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renoreno100
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: Violet]
#19375011 - 01/05/14 09:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey so if i make these holes in the jars how do use synthetic poly fil? do i make a little ball of it too pack in the hole?
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: LordChaos]
#19375014 - 01/05/14 09:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LordChaos said: I figured I'd post this separately but I got a Mex A strain syringe and have innoced 2 jars with it using much more solution than I did with the ATL#7 and 2 weeks later their about 15% colonized which was way way faster than Atl 7 but I still haven't seen any stones yet but I'm praying to the mushroom gods that I see some soon.
I would advise unless I did something wrong that if your gonna use MS solution your best bet would be to try another species like Mex A that seems to colonize a lot faster and IME use more that just a few small drops down the sides of the jars.
May the Mushroom Gods Bless you OP
Don't blame the species just because you're a newb. 
You obviously got shitty genetics, or made some other mistake.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: Violet]
#19375025 - 01/05/14 10:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Violet said: My main thing with grain choice for sclerotia is how badly they're engulfed by the grains. In order of least to most annoying to harvest & clean: Corn (falls right off) Rye Wheat (rye and wheat roll off easily) Birdseed Rice Grass seed (love this grain, but not for stones except their fruits)
Birdseed and rice, if not cooked just lightly enough (and rinsed!), may be a bit on the mushy side with the many small grains that can be engulfed by stones. Almost necessitates the toothbrush clean IMO
Grass seed doesn't have that problem at all - its problem is the many ridiculously tiny grains. They're a major pain to thoroughly clean from the stones. And I've noticed that the tiny seeds, which leave no space amongst each other, become very consolidated and might mostly only form thin stones at their barrier in the container.
Prepare corn just like rye, may require a longer simmer.
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LordChaos said: I inoculated 6 jars of Rye grain with only 4 small drops of MS ATL#7 like I was told here would do the trick and I put them in an incubator at 75 to 78 degrees since the heat in the house fluctuates so much. Well the myc was growing soo slow that the rye was starting to dry a bit at the top which slowed the myc down that much more so I had to shake them about a month and a half in. It's been just over 3 months now and I have seen no stone growth at all "zip 0 notta"
sounds like either you got shitty genetics, or your grain was poorly prepared.
Agreed. Sometimes both. I've had far more 'dud' inocs with sclerotia species than any other. Just took another try.
ooh, that makes more sense.
I think with birdseed there are too many random variable that can lead to normal teks not working quite right for you. As in, the different brands vary widely. Some seem more sticky than others, and have different ingredients.
I don't mind spending extra time cleaning off my stones.
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Well rbalzer I'm not a noob by any means but I'm not an expert either and to add this is my first time dealing with sclerotia producing species but with posting in this thread I figured that I could help the op since he seems to be new to all of this mushroom cultivation.
I might be wrong but In my understanding of this thread the op doesn't seem to be a regular cultivator and is probably new to it so I doubt he'll be working with agar or LCs so that's why I posted what I did in hopes to save him some time, money and effort and allow him to learn from what I'm dealing with so I figured it would be best for him to start with a little faster growing strain such as MEX A "correct me if I'm wrong about any of this".
Anyways I was wandering if anyone has noticed much difference between colonization times for ATL#7 and MEX A and maybe even Tamp or if it was just the particular genetics that is making my MEX A colonize so much faster than my ATL#7.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: LordChaos]
#19376916 - 01/06/14 11:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LordChaos said: it was just the particular genetics that is making my MEX A colonize so much faster than my ATL#7.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: LordChaos]
#19376917 - 01/06/14 11:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Genetics. My mex a was painfully slow, my ATL was lighting fast by comparison.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19385545 - 01/07/14 10:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I found some rye grass seed i could order too a hardware store and I'm confused if there's a ceratian kind or brand too get cuz there's the perennial and annually kind if anyone knows anything about it that would help.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: renoreno100]
#19387202 - 01/08/14 10:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You don't get it man, (rye) grass seed is not a great substrate for sclerotia, get rye grain/berries. If you must settle for grass seed, any kind without being treated with fungicide will work.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: stonesun]
#19387361 - 01/08/14 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe ace hardware carries 50 pound bags of corn for like $15. You should check it out.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19387364 - 01/08/14 10:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: I believe ace hardware carries 50 pound bags of corn for like $15. You should check it out.
Ace, the Mycology place.
and my 2000th post!
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19387474 - 01/08/14 11:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: I believe ace hardware carries 50 pound bags of corn for like $15. You should check it out.
Ace, the Mycology place.
and my 2000th post!
Seriously, I have seen so many things other hardware stores have stopped stocking for the winter. They also have a huge selection of jars. I don't mean to plug a non sponsor or anything, they're just awesome.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19387516 - 01/08/14 11:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: I believe ace hardware carries 50 pound bags of corn for like $15. You should check it out.
Ace, the Mycology place.
and my 2000th post!
Seriously, I have seen so many things other hardware stores have stopped stocking for the winter. They also have a huge selection of jars. I don't mean to plug a non sponsor or anything, they're just awesome.
most of the stores don't have the room in the back to put stuff back for the different seasons so they just consolidate it and put it in the "junk isle" Half the time they could go and find you seasonal items that are in their back room any way.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19387801 - 01/08/14 11:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: I believe ace hardware carries 50 pound bags of corn for like $15. You should check it out.
Ace, the Mycology place.
and my 2000th post!
Seriously, I have seen so many things other hardware stores have stopped stocking for the winter. They also have a huge selection of jars. I don't mean to plug a non sponsor or anything, they're just awesome.
most of the stores don't have the room in the back to put stuff back for the different seasons so they just consolidate it and put it in the "junk isle" Half the time they could go and find you seasonal items that are in their back room any way.
Wow, really? I have no idea why ace is still selling grass seed in the middle of winter with 2 feet of snow covering the grass, but I'm happy they are. I'll have to check the "junk isle" at some stores now that you mention it.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19387813 - 01/08/14 11:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I worked at an ace way back when and yep we left grass seed out all year since we didn't have anywhere to put it, we just tried to have not that much left when winter started.
The things most people need most are in the very far back, Keys, furnace filters, and plumbing repair things. Everything you don't really need is in the front of the store. Same thing with the isles, most expensive is at eye level and closer to the main isle and further down is the cheap stuff. So any unseasonal stuff is probably in the first few isles.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/08/14 11:56 AM)
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: renoreno100]
#19387852 - 01/08/14 12:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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is wbs a suitable substrate for growing sclerotia?
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19388153 - 01/08/14 01:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I worked at an ace way back when and yep we left grass seed out all year since we didn't have anywhere to put it, we just tried to have not that much left when winter started.
The things most people need most are in the very far back, Keys, furnace filters, and plumbing repair things. Everything you don't really need is in the front of the store. Same thing with the isles, most expensive is at eye level and closer to the main isle and further down is the cheap stuff. So any unseasonal stuff is probably in the first few isles.
That's amazing, you just completely described the ace by my house.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: fractaldill]
#19388162 - 01/08/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fractaldill said: is wbs a suitable substrate for growing sclerotia?
I'm about to fill up spawn bags full of wbs for some galindoi. I've never tried it, but I'm sure it works fine, most people say that the birdseed sticks to the sclerotia really bad is all. I'm fine eating some millet though, I couldn't care less to be honest.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19388168 - 01/08/14 01:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea I just got a 50lb bag and don't wanna go out and get some rye berries. They're like 200% more expensive where I live.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: fractaldill]
#19388458 - 01/08/14 02:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fractaldill said: Yea I just got a 50lb bag and don't wanna go out and get some rye berries. They're like 200% more expensive where I live.
I just bought 80 pounds of wbs and I really don't wanna go buy anything else, so I guess I'll just be eating birdseed with my sclerotia, or making sclerotia tea. Be sure to soak with 50% coffee and a handful of gypsum though. It's said to make bigger and faster growing sclerotia.
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Re: how too grow scletoria ? [Re: fractaldill]
#19389029 - 01/08/14 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fractaldill said: is wbs a suitable substrate for growing sclerotia?
I would say so. I have some going in WBS as we speak. It is my first time with this species though, so I don't have anything to compare to.
But it definitely works. It colonized real quick too!
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