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Re: One perfect moment [Re: sprinkles]
    #19376240 - 01/06/14 08:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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A perfect moment would be feeling 100% free.  From society, government, money, drugs, false expectations, guilt, self loathing, etc.  Being able to exist and feel comfortable as a person, without need or want for anything external.




Yeah something like that.  If you could live to be 100 but never feel that, or feel like that for a full day but only live another year, would you?


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376309 - 01/06/14 08:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

for the op, the question is not right .. because you skip the evil factor which is the reason of not seeing how any and all is always exclusively superior rights

so perfection is not a moment, it is all moments and any .. that is how for instance I can be so others too, very much objectively enjoying only what else rights are beings to support more then own selves life ..

anyway, truth comes first so objective is always superior rights

that is how individual conscious beings in truth, don't mean themselves rights so conscious positive freedoms but because wrong and evil is objective powers ..

we could enjoy supporting everything rights more as livings .. it is more interesting anyway

forums and the net in general shout it ... how far everyone seem to enjoy meaning anything and everything ..

but I guess what you mean.. like quality is what matter and not the quantity

this is of course true.. that is how truth is infinite superiority which exist as the only possible existence ways

so infinite cannot be in quantity terms existing, absolute superiority by definition is free so truly some value

but this is the magic of truth value, how existence is of exclusive values, when evil would be totally ruined down



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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376326 - 01/06/14 08:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think the proposition is too poetic in that you keep trying to redefine it so that it makes sense, and it never really makes sense because the concepts in it are too vague.

You would have to simplify it to more concrete and realistic terms.
i.e.
"would you give up your life, if you could taste a better life for a very short time?"

who would really go for that, even if you asked:
"would you give up your life *within 2 days*, if you could taste a *guaranteed 200% better life* for a very short time *guaranteed to be no less than 10 minutes* ?"

of course it would be illegal once you finished the terms of the agreement.


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376328 - 01/06/14 08:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thats a hard question.  The survival instinct immediately says live to be 100, even if living is hell.  The other part knows quality of life is more important.  I guess it comes down to experiences.  You can live to be 100, and while you're alive you get to experience things.  When you're dead, obviously you cant anymore. 


I don't know.  some days i wanna blow my head off, so id choose the year.  Which ever i chose I'm sure id wish i chose the other.  lol

would u rather be a ghost and live for eternity in a dimension of "non existence" or die and be dead forever with no consciousness at all?


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: sprinkles]
    #19376363 - 01/06/14 08:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the problem in the question is also what it hits freedom as if it never exist, when only freedom exist truly

like if I want to die, it must be free, so not for a reason or because of a certain agreement I signed

and what I talk about that I will do will negate my freedom now and later in doing alone

but also, because freedom is the exclusive existence, that objectively I cannot decide anything .. I can decide myself alone .. so meaning that is like calling or willing to give life to rats to come to kill me after I sign .. it is giving existence to evil


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: sprinkles]
    #19376371 - 01/06/14 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well I'm not saying we actually could accomplish this in real life.  It's a hypothetical assuming you wouldn't have any DA to get in your way.  Although some few seem to manage it.


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icyus]
    #19376407 - 01/06/14 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icyus said:
It would be easier to count the times I am not content and satifyed with everything.




to say that, it means that you are positive person .. you can say your being negative because you are free
and freedom is the positive value

like how evil wills, always point others inferiority and suggest themselves happiness and wealth .. because they are fully from all else and not from themselves .. they need to sit on all to be

and if you let them free, they will really lock all down and keep shitting on

this is the now revelations of powers situation over us

sorry I went off topic, as usual.. I say too much


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: absols]
    #19376433 - 01/06/14 09:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Take a break. Here is a moment of rest.



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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Hashbuble]
    #19376585 - 01/06/14 09:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah .. even country music knows the lyrics right .. :publicfart:
thanks for this moment of share ... :bye: ninja must go back to work, I must save the universe .. for all what I care about :rofl:


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376673 - 01/06/14 10:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
... Although some few seem to manage it.



seem to manage what exactly?


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19376852 - 01/06/14 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

overriding the survival instinct.


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