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Yuri.Pono
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: God Stamet]
#19458206 - 01/22/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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good to here you'll always still be around faht.
cant wait to see total weight of this project frank
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fahtster
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: Yuri.Pono]
#19464322 - 01/23/14 07:30 PM (10 years, 7 days ago) |
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She's a really good woman though. Not to mention I've pushed my luck far beyond what most would've been allowed (it feels that way anyhow.) so I might as well get out when the gettin' is good. 
faht
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God Stamet
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19466528 - 01/24/14 08:24 AM (10 years, 7 days ago) |
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understood.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19467364 - 01/24/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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First flushes are complete, second flushes are being harvested as well!
Here's the updates:
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FrankHorrigan said: Here they are, patched and fruiting:
Total first flush dry for OR-E2b: 164.6g - getting tossed

Total first flush dry for OR-B2: 148.3g - to the trash

Total first flush dry for JAS-B3: 232g - my favorite of the bunch, lots of beautiful, nicely sized fruits and a huge first flush
Total first flush dry for JAS-C1: 202.3g - also a great fruiter

Total first flush dry for OR-C1: 200.8g - yes please

Total first flush dry for OR-D1b: 181g - pretty fruits, decent yield

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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19468452 - 01/24/14 04:37 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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Wow it must be nice being able to have such high standards. I can't wait till I'm there.
Great job , your work is inspirational. Can't wait to see what you got planned next.
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fahtster
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I completely agree... I'm definitely not on the "a cube is a cube" train.. I highly disagree... each cube was developed naturally given their environment and thus required that developed environment to prosper. But alas somehow that's hard to see. Unlike the "a cube is a cube" theory, I think Frank will get his dues. 
faht
I rarely state it, but I agree 100% that a cube is a cube in the sense of cultivation. However I have seen enough "varieties" to realize that there are simple and small nuances to each. You are absolutely correct in thinking that there was/is evolution at play between differing varieties, thought the differences are small that most simply don't notice, or blame the agar/genes. Cubes are MOSTLY the same in appearance, but the same in conditions and microscopically. IMHO it is no different than a dog AKA "Canis lupus"...300 years ago they all looked the same. Then we started fucking with breeding etc...now we have all sorts of dogs, most of which are totally worthless.
Frank certainly deserves credit for pushing the casing issue. I think there is more at work with a casing layer than what most of us understand. Its still odd to me that some species of mushrooms absolutely require it, while others "is not necessary".
Not to push this off topic too much, Frank, but I'd like to respond. Yes, I agree, you are 100% correct in the "a cube is a cube" diagnostic for cultivation, but I see it used too loosely when a grower asks, "I'd like a fast pinning and short stature cube... which variety should I go with?" And there's an immediate response, "a cube is a cube." I don't see that as an appropriate response. There is a definite difference between a Texan cube and a South American cube; in at least as much as their physiology (given their environment as stated before.) That's where my belief stands anyway... Or I could be crazy... That's always an option. 
faht
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19494116 - 01/29/14 10:23 PM (10 years, 1 day ago) |
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â—¾A cube is a cube is what we tell new cultivators to avoid confusion...mainly because it really doesn't make much difference if they grow B+ or treasure coast when they are shooting spores into half-pint jars 
Quoted from frank.^^
I agree with you exactly I find its very hard to believe that different climates of origin don't have an impact on physical traits when grown correctly. On the other hand when I hear "This is my first grow what strain (variety) should I get blah blah?"
I'm inclined to answer with "a cube is a cube" because they will probably mess something up altering its "pre-disposition" Also we can grow them to look pretty much however we want. Whether thru isolation etc. or environmental conditions.
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God Stamet
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: magickspore]
#19495767 - 01/30/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 day ago) |
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a cube IS a cube, but let's face it, different sub strains look and act differently. I always thought "a cube is a cube" response was lazy. yes they're all from the same kingdom, but different sub strains perform differently. it's like saying "a human is a human" when a white guy asks what a black guy is lol
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: God Stamet]
#19496341 - 01/30/14 01:09 PM (10 years, 22 hours ago) |
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i always state that a cube is a cube when it comes to growing conditions, i don't deny the diff and work put into some of the variety's
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: cronicr]
#19522962 - 02/04/14 10:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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where ya at frank!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: cronicr]
#19530582 - 02/06/14 01:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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fahtster said: Not to push this off topic too much, Frank, but I'd like to respond. Yes, I agree, you are 100% correct in the "a cube is a cube" diagnostic for cultivation, but I see it used too loosely when a grower asks, "I'd like a fast pinning and short stature cube... which variety should I go with?" And there's an immediate response, "a cube is a cube." I don't see that as an appropriate response. There is a definite difference between a Texan cube and a South American cube; in at least as much as their physiology (given their environment as stated before.) That's where my belief stands anyway... Or I could be crazy... That's always an option. 
faht
I agree with you faht. For example, my john allen varieties and my oak ridge varieties have very different timeframes for colonizing, fruiting, sporulating, and also different macro presentation. But they all require the same stuff for cultivation, like you and GS and cronic said.
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FrankHorrigan said:

where ya at frank!
Busy!
My oysters are colonizing at an incredible pace, I've been having trouble keeping up with everything! The next set of 12 cube masters is about to move to bags this weekend and another 12 are being knocked up in short order. I'll be making a log for that soon and here is the log for my gourmets if you're interested in taking a gander 
I also got a set of turntables for myself and a new laptop, so life is just full of excitement!
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19565393 - 02/14/14 09:18 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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{cheekily asks} Are you going to do a TEK on late casing Frank styley?
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: Edmunter]
#19565422 - 02/14/14 09:23 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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franks got two turntables and a microphone!!! WHERE ITS AT!!
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: Edmunter]
#19565550 - 02/14/14 09:52 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: {cheekily asks} Are you going to do a TEK on late casing Frank styley?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7708447
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Hairlesscaveape
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: God Stamet]
#20168090 - 06/22/14 12:04 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sweet tubs Frank! When do ya givem fae? I thought ya waited till the casing is fully colonized, and then introduce fae but from your pics it looks like their fruiting before the casing layer is fully colonized. Im doin kinda the same thing with coco/verm and 4 tubs at a time.
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cronicr



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you fruit when your casing is at about 30% not when it's full colonized
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: cronicr]
#20168709 - 06/22/14 02:59 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks Cronicr! I really needed to know that. Just a few more posts and I'l be able to give rep!
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cronicr



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no problem! frank hasn't been around much lately he's on break... a well earned one i may add lol. so i hope he don't mind us helping his threads out
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