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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19432885 - 01/17/14 11:45 AM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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Updates 
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FrankHorrigan said: Here they are, patched and fruiting:






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twistedty
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19433283 - 01/17/14 01:26 PM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: twistedty]
#19433310 - 01/17/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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fahtster
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: tga8706]
#19433394 - 01/17/14 02:09 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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Nice man! that is damn close. 
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fahtster
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19439760 - 01/18/14 08:56 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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And, nice... it looks like you are getting really nice pin sets out of casing early.. it only gives me hope that when you do the experiment (and I'm really grateful that you are giving it a whirly-bird) I asked you to, you'll get the same reaction out of your high nute layer due to allowance for rhizomorphic growth from the low nute layer put on top (esp. if you're using coir... that shit LOVES to make pins). I'm like a fucking fire, bruv... I'm stoked! I really am appreciative of you taking on my request, sir. I know you'll do it justice... carry on.
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Edited by fahtster (01/18/14 08:59 PM)
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19450568 - 01/20/14 11:33 PM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Believe 
Here's some updates from tonight, harvests have been ongoing.
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God Stamet
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19450607 - 01/20/14 11:42 PM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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can't argue with that. jesus, nice
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Chimaira
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: God Stamet]
#19450990 - 01/21/14 01:07 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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That picture with the veils that has just began to tear is amazing Frank. Awesome job as always. Very inspiring.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: Chimaira]
#19451173 - 01/21/14 02:07 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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I do love to share with everyone who follows my work.
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19451678 - 01/21/14 07:20 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Nice pics Franklin!
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fahtster
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19452921 - 01/21/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Yuri.Pono
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19453646 - 01/21/14 04:23 PM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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Nice Flush Frank
time to get your hands dirty now Faht! like to see a old pro back at it.
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fahtster
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: Yuri.Pono]
#19454767 - 01/21/14 08:30 PM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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believe me, nothing would give me more pleasure... But this cat only has one life left and it doesn't involve growing. I'll have to settle for a vicarious slideshow... I'll take it. My only regret is that I didn't meet more of you fine folks in 3D. 2D has its limits, but again, I'll take it. I have no plans on going anywhere.. though I feel limited in my capabilities to guide in a community that is ever expanding and improving itself.. those feelings are curbed being that the true spirit of the community IS expansion and growth.. quite literally. So, no, you won't see me grow again, but I'll always be a pm away. 
EDIT: but back to the topic at hand... that OR you have, Frank, is pretty damn stellar. side note: there are definitely some people that are going to say, well... casings are unneeded with cubes... where are the uncased tubs? Sure, cased and late-cased tubs did close to the same, but where are their uncased counterparts? Not to throw a wrench in the monkey, but you know some people are thinking that.. Any comment? I know you usually go uncased... so, I'm curious what you have to say about that.
faht
Edited by fahtster (01/21/14 09:02 PM)
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mikemush
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19454902 - 01/21/14 09:01 PM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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is 200 dried grams typical from a monotub?
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fahtster
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: mikemush]
#19454953 - 01/21/14 09:16 PM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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If you know what you're doing, yes. Knowing what you're doing includes things like, using a proven isolate/clone... following a known-to-work guide. If it's your first monotub you should expect nothing short of a learning experience. Nothing is a "sure thing" in this hobby... nothing should be viewed as a replacement for experience. Your vectors might be different than someone else's.
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19454967 - 01/21/14 09:21 PM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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Vectors?
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19454970 - 01/21/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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fahtster said: there are definitely some people that are going to say, well... casings are unneeded with cubes... where are the uncased tubs? Sure, cased and late-cased tubs did close to the same, but where are their uncased counterparts? Not to throw a wrench in the monkey, but you know some people are thinking that.. Any comment? I know you usually go uncased... so, I'm curious what you have to say about that.
faht
I have only limited experience in the areas you are pointing out. I came here after success with species that require casings (portabello), and continued this process with cubes. After a short stint of research I found that A) Casings are not required for cubes (per most users) and that B) No one could find a negative reason to use a casing. I have done 1 tub without casing, and I won't be revisiting that idea.
I am one-sided in the debate, but I think that success is defined earlier than the spawn is mixed with bulk. I am happy with my cased grow, no different than anyone can be happy with their uncased grows. I have been nothing but glad to see great people like Frank delve into things that have been "unnecessary", and proving that they may be beneficial.
There is a certain bent notion that floats that "a cube is a cube" and that "casings are unnecessary" and it thrills me to no end when discoveries are made that certain "strains" certainly benefit from a simple late case.
Frank certainly deserves credit for pushing this research to the forefront. Hopefully the days of "mutated blobs" can be behind us all now.
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fahtster
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mikemush said: Vectors?
vectors are a point of insecurity in our field. the lid to your jar is a vector... the humidity in your grow area is a vector. the amount of time you are able to attend to your grow is a vector... the supplies you have at your disposal are a vector and so on. Each grower is different.
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fahtster said: there are definitely some people that are going to say, well... casings are unneeded with cubes... where are the uncased tubs? Sure, cased and late-cased tubs did close to the same, but where are their uncased counterparts? Not to throw a wrench in the monkey, but you know some people are thinking that.. Any comment? I know you usually go uncased... so, I'm curious what you have to say about that.
faht
I have only limited experience in the areas you are pointing out. I came here after success with species that require casings (portabello), and continued this process with cubes. After a short stint of research I found that A) Casings are not required for cubes (per most users) and that B) No one could find a negative reason to use a casing. I have done 1 tub without casing, and I won't be revisiting that idea.
I am one-sided in the debate, but I think that success is defined earlier than the spawn is mixed with bulk. I am happy with my cased grow, no different than anyone can be happy with their uncased grows. I have been nothing but glad to see great people like Frank delve into things that have been "unnecessary", and proving that they may be beneficial.
There is a certain bent notion that floats that "a cube is a cube" and that "casings are unnecessary" and it thrills me to no end when discoveries are made that certain "strains" certainly benefit from a simple late case.
Frank certainly deserves credit for pushing this research to the forefront. Hopefully the days of "mutated blobs" can be behind us all now.
I completely agree... I'm definitely not on the "a cube is a cube" train.. I highly disagree... each cube was developed naturally given their environment and thus required that developed environment to prosper. But alas somehow that's hard to see. Unlike the "a cube is a cube" theory, I think Frank will get/getting his dues. 
faht
Edited by fahtster (01/21/14 09:46 PM)
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Frank finally cases 11 tubs, a grow log [Re: fahtster]
#19455094 - 01/21/14 09:53 PM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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I completely agree... I'm definitely not on the "a cube is a cube" train.. I highly disagree... each cube was developed naturally given their environment and thus required that developed environment to prosper. But alas somehow that's hard to see. Unlike the "a cube is a cube" theory, I think Frank will get his dues. 
faht
I rarely state it, but I agree 100% that a cube is a cube in the sense of cultivation. However I have seen enough "varieties" to realize that there are simple and small nuances to each. You are absolutely correct in thinking that there was/is evolution at play between differing varieties, thought the differences are small that most simply don't notice, or blame the agar/genes. Cubes are MOSTLY the same in appearance, but the same in conditions and microscopically. IMHO it is no different than a dog AKA "Canis lupus"...300 years ago they all looked the same. Then we started fucking with breeding etc...now we have all sorts of dogs, most of which are totally worthless.
Frank certainly deserves credit for pushing the casing issue. I think there is more at work with a casing layer than what most of us understand. Its still odd to me that some species of mushrooms absolutely require it, while others "is not necessary".
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faht tell me a woman didn't pull you out of the game
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