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Familiarity breeds contempt?
    #19376040 - 01/06/14 06:58 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I remember when I was a very young man. It was a very difficult time in my life. I was still at home and home was very very hellish.  I remember I had a list of several things that I felt would save my life and make it worth living if I could only accomplish them.  I hung them out like a carrot in front of my nose to keep me going. 

Well within a dozen or more years I had accomplished them all. I should then have been eternally happy but that didn't happen.  I just had to create a  new list.  And on and on up to now.


Why do you think that happened?

Let me put this another way.  I do some bird watching. The Scrub Jay is a very beautiful blue bird.  But being in the Corvid family (with the crow and raven) it's very intelligent and somewhat large and does not have a beautiful song.  It tends to push other birds around and out of my bird feeders to take it's pick of the offerings.  Now my neighbor who is from the East had never seen one and was floored by how beautiful they were. She was always commenting on how beautiful they were and how lucky we were to have a pair nesting at our site.  Now she complains because their sound keeps her awake in the mornings and has no use for them at all and has moved on to other colorful birds to be wowed by.

It's the same thing as my story and it seems to happen all the time.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376129 - 01/06/14 07:36 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I think that happened because humans are problem solvers by nature.  The solution for me is to locate my part of the drama and fulfill it - accept your humanity, solve your problems.  This is where the hero emerges, imo.  While it doesn't mean you won't find more problems, they'll be better problems than the original bellyaching back at home in the Midwest - if you hadn't solved that, you'd really have problems by now :lol:

Edit: As for your neighbor, this one is one me:



99c or less from the dollar store.

:winning:


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19376160 - 01/06/14 07:46 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

But in the second example she's not solving any problems. I think there is more to this phenomenon.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376170 - 01/06/14 07:50 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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But in the second example she's not solving any problems. I think there is more to this phenomenon.




I do it at times, I have real convoluted work arounds for things I haven't taken the time to understand and properly solve.  When you're lazy, you get what you get. 

Edit: Her complaining about the birds is some kind of consolation to her, wouldn't you think?  She is problem solving, it's just not very effective.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


Edited by CosmicJoke (01/06/14 08:00 AM)


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376188 - 01/06/14 08:00 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

My goals seem to shift over time, there's really no way around it as one is accomplished. Nothing to do but do something. I don't think that comes from contempt at the moment, as part of those goals involve feeding myself.


Applying this to music, my goals are constantly shifting and adjusting not only for moving forward but as you're suggesting - to keep up interest. Its a very difficult balance and most musicians fail miserably at it (referring to big names from various genres)

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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19376197 - 01/06/14 08:02 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Music is a good example.  I can hear a favorite song so many times than I avoid it like the plague. It actually bugs me.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376201 - 01/06/14 08:04 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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Music is a good example.  I can hear a favorite song so many times than I avoid it like the plague. It actually bugs me.




Oh, sometimes LSD helps me hear music with clean ears again, when I have that problem.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19376232 - 01/06/14 08:16 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Yeah it works sometimes, time helps too but sometimes it takes years. Change in general really. Its fascinating how much change is necessary to keep things moving

Over the past few years I've gone through easily 1000 albums (some binders would contain a few hundred cds a piece), yet when it comes time for listening there's only a handful at any given time which would interest me. That handful changes by the week and sometimes nothing gets me going.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19376244 - 01/06/14 08:19 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
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Music is a good example.  I can hear a favorite song so many times than I avoid it like the plague. It actually bugs me.




Oh, sometimes LSD helps me hear music with clean ears again, when I have that problem.




Yes of course but why does it happen in the first place?


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19376258 - 01/06/14 08:23 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

very cool icelander. 

interesting what CosmicJoke said.  That explains why i self sabotage when everything's going well.  I always thought it was because I'm a fucking idiot. Maybe I just need problems to solve.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376260 - 01/06/14 08:23 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Google? I once had so much earwax, I used a eaplug to hear music and ruined it...


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376268 - 01/06/14 08:25 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I'm just playing with ya.  Take for example when you first left home and made it out West, I bet it was pretty brilliant, no?  The memories of those moments were so high because by comparison the rest of your life was much lower.  Now you have to find that sense of freshness, newness, intensity in your every day life, without the peaks and valleys, a plateau. It's a much different problem.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander] * 2
    #19376289 - 01/06/14 08:31 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

you could say, that
having solved the problems you perceived in youth,
you reached a plateau in which the tide of malaise was enough to chase you into the mountains

and now that you are in the mountains,
the corvids have introduced themselves to you.

Those corvids can be great teachers.

Now you have to solve the corvid problem which I think you articulated is
"they noisily obstruct the sweet little birds who want to eat at your feeders, and have reduced your chances of mating with your neighbor"

So you have to contrive a corvid perch restriction apparatus and attach that to your feeders or rebuild your feeders such that they allow smaller birds to perch but not larger ones.

your neighbor will then be impressed with your masculine prowess and begin to spread her wings for you.

the song goes on.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #19376380 - 01/06/14 08:51 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

You stole my metaphor! :lol:  But nailed the cycle of life as far as I see it.  :raisemyglass:


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19376391 - 01/06/14 08:54 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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I'm just playing with ya.  Take for example when you first left home and made it out West, I bet it was pretty brilliant, no?  The memories of those moments were so high because by comparison the rest of your life was much lower.  Now you have to find that sense of freshness, newness, intensity in your every day life, without the peaks and valleys, a plateau. It's a much different problem.



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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376402 - 01/06/14 08:57 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Isn't this the same reason billionaires keep gathering way more money than they or their families could ever spend in a lifetime?  The same urge that drives athletes to use drugs and other artificial means to push themselves beyond the natural limits of the human body?  The original sin if you ask me.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376403 - 01/06/14 08:57 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I think the single most operative word (in this) is "breeds"


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376482 - 01/06/14 09:19 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Maybe this is an illustration of willful ignorance more than anything. Similar to when an idea sounds great on paper but not in reality. Its usually because only certain aspects of life are actually being examined. When looking at the bird your neighbor fixated on one quality and became enamored. As the familiarity set in the other qualities became more apparent due to the fixation losing power. This would likely be true for your goals as well.

I don't know if familiarity breeds contempt as much as familiarity reveals qualities we prefer not to acknowledge or accept. Another perspective to the pile.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19376528 - 01/06/14 09:40 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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I think the single most operative word (in this) is "breeds"




Sure, you breed livestock. It's organized and controlled. The expression isn't  "Familiarity shocks and persuades contempt".  What is recreation, and do our expectations of re-creating desired results achieved in the past muddle up our experience of what's happening in the moment? 

I'll be seeing The Secret Chiefs play soon in town, though I've already seen them live once before.  I have the day off, and I think I'll put as much faith in satisfaction into every little bit of the day, from my first cup of coffee to riding my bike in the morning, finding some heady nugs, or good beers if none, seeing what my friends are up to, etc.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19376594 - 01/06/14 10:02 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I love this clip from the film Adaptation :lol:



John Laroche: Then one morning, I woke up and said, "Fuck fish." I renounce fish, I will never set foot in that ocean again. That's how much "fuck fish." That was 17 years ago and I have never stuck so much as a toe in that ocean. And I love the ocean.

Susan Orlean: But why?

John Laroche: Done with fish.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19376635 - 01/06/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

exactly !!

that because ends are stolen from existence .. while existence is of all ends, positive realities eternal objective values and else freedoms rights source..

so when we have some kind of gods sitting from the start as getting it all .. how could ever existence be real for existing to realize the least of his means ends rights ??

it is easy they keep throwing shit .. too easy to ruin anything if you get the power and the absolute power on a ground

in truth, all exist, not only us and things .. so god they are obliged to exist more even

that is how all is evil, because they choose the reverse to not exist for incomes and positions abuses .. like they are standing above positive existence value they can see as a whole thing .. noway for them to get under any nor to be relative .. they are so proud of being absolutely as an advantage of birth to abuse

we are relative that must be absolutely real in existence all reality 
they are absolute that must be relative positive freedoms out of everything existence

that is how for sure, there must be above them coming .. the only way to force them down out


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Kickle]
    #19376860 - 01/06/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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Kickle said:
Maybe this is an illustration of willful ignorance more than anything. Similar to when an idea sounds great on paper but not in reality. Its usually because only certain aspects of life are actually being examined. When looking at the bird your neighbor fixated on one quality and became enamored. As the familiarity set in the other qualities became more apparent due to the fixation losing power. This would likely be true for your goals as well.

I don't know if familiarity breeds contempt as much as familiarity reveals qualities we prefer not to acknowledge or accept. Another perspective to the pile.




I think you may have nailed it.  And in my case the ignorance was not willful but just plain ignorant.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19377089 - 01/06/14 12:17 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Yeah I went back and forth over the word willful. I stuck with it because at any point, in theory, we can look around at what is present. It isn't likely so cut and dry of course. I steer clear of many gruesome videos floating on the internet due to not wanting to subject myself to that trauma. Could I choose to see it otherwise? I don't know. What I know is that I steer clear.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19377275 - 01/06/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I think the more distressing thing, and related, is how we don't seem to have much in the way of an absolute requirement for contentedness in terms of physical, relational, comforts.  If you have a nice house in the hood, you feel rich.  If you have the same house in a rich neighborhood you feel poor.  If you live in Detroit and are married to a spouse who makes $50,000 a year, you may feel like he's a catch, if you live in Beverly Hills and your neighbors are married to lawyers making 100k+, you may feel embarrased.

I've noticed this with myself a lot, and I've tried to stop chasing material goods, fashion, et cet and tried to simplify my life.  I think it helps.  I don't worry about getting a new phone and purposely use an old shitty one I could replace for $20.


BTW, never heard of scrub jays, but they seem neat.  I don't know how well I'd put up with this nonsense, though:



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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19377391 - 01/06/14 02:07 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Quote:

CosmicJoke said:
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Icelander said:
Music is a good example.  I can hear a favorite song so many times than I avoid it like the plague. It actually bugs me.




Oh, sometimes LSD helps me hear music with clean ears again, when I have that problem.




Yes of course but why does it happen in the first place?




I think it's something to do with a disconnect between the interests of the body/instinctual mind and the interests of the ego. The two don't seem to develop fluidly.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #19377419 - 01/06/14 02:11 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I think it is because we are more complex creatures than the amoeba.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19377542 - 01/06/14 02:37 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Speak for yourself. :nicesmile:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19377570 - 01/06/14 02:43 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Quote:

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Maybe this is an illustration of willful ignorance more than anything. Similar to when an idea sounds great on paper but not in reality. Its usually because only certain aspects of life are actually being examined. When looking at the bird your neighbor fixated on one quality and became enamored. As the familiarity set in the other qualities became more apparent due to the fixation losing power. This would likely be true for your goals as well.

I don't know if familiarity breeds contempt as much as familiarity reveals qualities we prefer not to acknowledge or accept. Another perspective to the pile.




I think you may have nailed it.  And in my case the ignorance was not willful but just plain ignorant.




That is also just the reality of living with somebody (be it family or bird).  You can be quite familiar with somebody and their idiosyncrasies and totally see past them until you are around them at your worst, then those idiosyncrasies  become quite irritating.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19377809 - 01/06/14 03:35 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Speak for yourself. :nicesmile:



i do, am I alone?


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19377947 - 01/06/14 04:08 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

We are all alone. :jimmorrison:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19378155 - 01/06/14 05:12 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

always enjoy a double standard


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19378162 - 01/06/14 05:14 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Don't lose your sense of humor Red.:haha:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19378507 - 01/06/14 06:15 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Maybe this is an illustration of willful ignorance more than anything. Similar to when an idea sounds great on paper but not in reality. Its usually because only certain aspects of life are actually being examined. When looking at the bird your neighbor fixated on one quality and became enamored. As the familiarity set in the other qualities became more apparent due to the fixation losing power. This would likely be true for your goals as well.

I don't know if familiarity breeds contempt as much as familiarity reveals qualities we prefer not to acknowledge or accept. Another perspective to the pile.




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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19378553 - 01/06/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Don't lose your sense of humor Red.:haha:




You seem like a pretty cool dude but do some people here hate you lol? Reading random shit/old shit makes me think this :P


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19378761 - 01/06/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Don't lose your sense of humor Red.:haha:




You seem like a pretty cool dude but do some people here hate you lol? Reading random shit/old shit makes me think this :P




I only hate him 49% of the time, which makes him the cat's meow in my book. 

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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19378763 - 01/06/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Why yes, yes they do. :imspecial:  Do you think Red hates me?:nicesmile:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19378769 - 01/06/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Don't lose your sense of humor Red.:haha:




You seem like a pretty cool dude but do some people here hate you lol? Reading random shit/old shit makes me think this :P




I only hate him 49% of the time, which makes him the cat's meow in my book. 

insert a pretty smile emoticon here




I must work harder, I must, I must.  :beatingtodeath:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19378805 - 01/06/14 07:07 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I wouldn't say that...Maybe thinly-veiled, impatient, aggression? Im just talking shite though so...maybe he just thinks your a tool?


I only just discovered the plus sign on all the emoticons....excellent :bearbreakdance:  :fuckinawesome:  :solidnod:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19378835 - 01/06/14 07:12 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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I must work harder, I must, I must.  :beatingtodeath:




You know that only curries favor :satansmoking:

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I wouldn't say that...Maybe thinly-veiled, impatient, aggression? Im just talking shite though so...maybe he just thinks your a tool?


I only just discovered the plus sign on all the emoticons....excellent :bearbreakdance:  :fuckinawesome:  :solidnod:




when you know them without the smiley button you're a true shroomerite.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19378923 - 01/06/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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when you know them without the smiley button you're a true shroomerite.





One day....

:raptorJesus:  :banhamster:  :Tastesgoodman:  :evildog:

This shit is ridiculous....I'm gonna stop looking through so I can have another days entertainment :laugh:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19378927 - 01/06/14 07:30 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I feel like those images could make a powerful story ha ha ha


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19378946 - 01/06/14 07:34 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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when you know them without the smiley button you're a true shroomerite.





One day....

:raptorJesus:  :banhamster:  :Tastesgoodman:  :evildog:

This shit is ridiculous....I'm gonna stop looking through so I can have another days entertainment :laugh:




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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19378967 - 01/06/14 07:38 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

:lolwut:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19379048 - 01/06/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Ahh, when I was but a youngin' I had one of those epic trips seeing Phish play live, uncanny sun rise in the morning, beautiful epic tale.... only to be greeted with having to go into work at a typical shit low wage job at a call center...  Total purgatory, 100s of "blahblahblah" voices echoing through all my synapses 10 fold... So to break the tension, I drew up a picture of a disco Jesus wearing platform sandals, and my friend amended it as a raptor Jesus with platform sandals, and I finally edited it once more as Raptor Jesus w/ Roller Skates, which made it to a small scale meme. I think it would make a good emoticon :shrug:.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19379092 - 01/06/14 08:01 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

red loves ice
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19379181 - 01/06/14 08:15 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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red loves ice
red suffers ice
red masturbates furiously in a pool of tears.
red forgives ice
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it's what we do




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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19379210 - 01/06/14 08:21 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

red is mad at cosmic joke but half expects it


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19379236 - 01/06/14 08:25 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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I wouldn't say that...Maybe thinly-veiled, impatient, aggression? Im just talking shite though so...maybe he just thinks your a tool?


I only just discovered the plus sign on all the emoticons....excellent :bearbreakdance:  :fuckinawesome:  :solidnod:





Yeah he thinks I'm a tool. :thumbup:

Which I am.

I don't blame him for hating me.  I really can't blame anyone for that. :satansmoking:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19379510 - 01/06/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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red is mad at cosmic joke but half expects it




I wonder if someday I might too learn to talk in third person, but thus far I only seem to manage soliloquy at best. (better left ignored to prove my point)


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19380431 - 01/07/14 12:59 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19380827 - 01/07/14 03:45 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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red is mad at cosmic joke but half expects it




I wonder if someday I might too learn to talk in third person, but thus far I only seem to manage soliloquy at best. (better left ignored to prove my point)




you might,

at the  local wine bar (two doors west of RGV's house) the proprietor has been encouraging RGV (under a different name) to speak of RGV in 3rd person with a heavy east euro accent.

RGV finds it sophisticated

RGV likes wine


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19380969 - 01/07/14 05:09 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

well i for one have been here for a while and frankly i dont like any of you :ohwell:


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    #19381025 - 01/07/14 05:41 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

RGV is sad to hear that


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19381054 - 01/07/14 05:56 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

:nicekitty:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19381322 - 01/07/14 08:33 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Make it!

and well that was enlightening/entertaining :laugh:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19385998 - 01/08/14 12:06 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

given the knowledge you have now would you make different choices? :strokebeard:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: quinn]
    #19386082 - 01/08/14 12:34 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Of course


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19386474 - 01/08/14 03:45 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

would they lead to a better life? :strokebeard:

in my life i wouldn't make different choices but i would just hope to commit more fully to the ones i made (i.e. im lazy)

i feel like we are mostly ignorant chasing fantasies through our lives.. idk if years of experience would change that or if one would even want to..


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: quinn]
    #19386692 - 01/08/14 06:54 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

It wouldn't hurt to find out.  I think they would.


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: quinn]
    #19386778 - 01/08/14 07:46 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

what matter is you.. not what you do .. even though being is all through constant doing

but what matter is what you really exist, so what you never hate or regret being of you, what you so the abstract constructor of yourself conscious wont mind any negative thing

what matter is the right energy you can get as a conscious being from you, which work only if your mind is positively present so free of negative reason and reasoning ways in general .. 

anything negative or holding you back has a very bad impact on yourself being with everything else

so of course moments that we are fooled or abused and humiliated in our innocence or ignorance .. matters a lot


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: absols]
    #19386788 - 01/08/14 07:50 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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what matter is you.. not what you do .. even though being is all through constant doing






Right...So you make a statement and then contradict it immediately. I'm sure there is nuance to what you are saying but when your language is blunt that nuance is lost.

And the start of that sentence makes me think of the old christian idea of "oh well you killed those four people but you paid us money and said your prayers so its okay, your a good person"


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19387114 - 01/08/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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what matter is you.. not what you do .. even though being is all through constant doing






Right...So you make a statement and then contradict it immediately. I'm sure there is nuance to what you are saying but when your language is blunt that nuance is lost.

And the start of that sentence makes me think of the old christian idea of "oh well you killed those four people but you paid us money and said your prayers so its okay, your a good person"




there is no nuance that is not clear.. I guarantee that

what are others words to you ?? words are free like nothing because always relative to what ?? to the present free will and person value

when you don't like me to respect what I say, why don't you say then whatever you want to say yourself ?? why cant you accept others as they are when they clearly are nothing to you or your means ..

which prove how it is all about you, the contradicting self

you seek to think being smart by judging another sentence that is clearly meant to someone else, so bluntly persons kind of chat

to prove how my sentence is hundred percent right, let me write it again slower for you,

when I say what matter.. what do you think that mean ?? what I care about or what you care about ?? well no .. it is what matter, what originates matter, matter source if you prefer ..

so again.. the sentence .. what matter is you.. as you are the exclusive present source, you are the money, the positive value abstractly and physically

what you do, whatever better then words... is to all reality value which is never present, so doesn't matter, always like nothing, what you do objectively with all is never a source of anything

even though, I said, being is through constant doing ..

because being or reality is to truth abstract infinite value .. so anyone or any free conscious individuality must be real first, must be out of truth abstract value, as present before existing relatively own self through freedom rights of any conscious being still

and the way you described my way of saying is funny, which prove how words are personal, always relative means and values, there cant be anything said in words nor done

the style of writing you prefer is all to psychological set of free will you mean to be


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    #19387471 - 01/08/14 11:07 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Mother of god that is almost unintelligible...Honestly I can barely see any sentence that makes grammatical sense....or any sense for that matter, speak clearly and you may be able to enlighten me


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19387537 - 01/08/14 11:21 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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Mother of god that is almost unintelligible...Honestly I can barely see any sentence that makes grammatical sense....or any sense for that matter, speak clearly and you may be able to enlighten me




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    #19387632 - 01/08/14 11:41 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

As in I cant actually debate the point because I've "lost"?

Because I would do so if I understood


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    #19387719 - 01/08/14 11:48 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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As in I cant actually debate the point because I've "lost"?

Because I would do so if I understood




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    #19387815 - 01/08/14 11:54 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

:booooom:


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    #19388021 - 01/08/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

of course you would keep denying the obvious since you are getting nothing from the obvious you see

and you dare call me mother of god .. mother of god yourself !

you enlighten crap
use your own self to get what you want !


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there is huge satisfaction in clicking on absols
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    #19388245 - 01/08/14 01:40 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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there is huge satisfaction in clicking on absols
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amazing relief
better and faster than tylenol
astonishing!




it didn't take long for the contempt to be bred.  like a donkey dicking the pain was sudden, and intense.  not that i would know, of course.


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right, thank you redgreenvines !!


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    #19388899 - 01/08/14 04:01 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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it didn't take long for the contempt to be bred.  like a donkey dicking the pain was sudden, and intense.  not that i would know, of course.




:amusedapplause:  I lol'd at the 1st sentence for being so accurately amusing...then continued and lol'd again, thank you good sir!

@absols

Mother of god is an expression of exasperation :facepalm3:

Do you actually think your making sense? Really like? I hope not, 'cos all I'm getting is incoherent babble...RGV(I feel so cool knowing nicknames) I think I might follow that sage-like advice!


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19389297 - 01/08/14 05:03 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

The times I've been able to decipher his posts they have made pretty strong sense.  It's too bad he's having such a hard time communicating.  :sad:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19390119 - 01/08/14 07:28 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

you already said that about me


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19390245 - 01/08/14 07:50 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

the old rgv who took a daily dose of dmt (?) or some shit, had a similar ring to him :yesnod:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: quinn]
    #19390383 - 01/08/14 08:14 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

daily salvia
still carry it around, just in case, at all times,
but I seem to be connected anyway to the other side


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19391676 - 01/09/14 01:46 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

just in case.. of an emergency?

ah yeh salvia.. salvia rgv was pretty cool altho definitely somewhere else on the 'other side' lol


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19391677 - 01/09/14 01:46 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
you already said that about me




But english is a first language for you. :braindamage:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
    #19391803 - 01/09/14 02:32 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

those kind of expression are only for verbal use, like unconscious reactions that can be used for anything and everything,  but mostly to show some positive reactions to whatever persons are looking at.. how do you choose to type those expressions instead of writing yourself exasperation consciously when there is no one else but you alone and your mean ? say the least how you cant write down anything real  :uhoh:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19392067 - 01/09/14 04:12 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I spoke baby talk before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19392194 - 01/09/14 05:03 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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I spoke baby talk before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye




You talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?



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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19392214 - 01/09/14 05:10 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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I spoke baby talk before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye





And you're still at it. :haha:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
    #19392411 - 01/09/14 06:23 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

:curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: absols]
    #19392451 - 01/09/14 06:45 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Yeah I'm not replying to you anymore


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