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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19376635 - 01/06/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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exactly !!
that because ends are stolen from existence .. while existence is of all ends, positive realities eternal objective values and else freedoms rights source..
so when we have some kind of gods sitting from the start as getting it all .. how could ever existence be real for existing to realize the least of his means ends rights ??
it is easy they keep throwing shit .. too easy to ruin anything if you get the power and the absolute power on a ground
in truth, all exist, not only us and things .. so god they are obliged to exist more even
that is how all is evil, because they choose the reverse to not exist for incomes and positions abuses .. like they are standing above positive existence value they can see as a whole thing .. noway for them to get under any nor to be relative .. they are so proud of being absolutely as an advantage of birth to abuse
we are relative that must be absolutely real in existence all reality they are absolute that must be relative positive freedoms out of everything existence
that is how for sure, there must be above them coming .. the only way to force them down out
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Kickle]
#19376860 - 01/06/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Kickle said: Maybe this is an illustration of willful ignorance more than anything. Similar to when an idea sounds great on paper but not in reality. Its usually because only certain aspects of life are actually being examined. When looking at the bird your neighbor fixated on one quality and became enamored. As the familiarity set in the other qualities became more apparent due to the fixation losing power. This would likely be true for your goals as well.
I don't know if familiarity breeds contempt as much as familiarity reveals qualities we prefer not to acknowledge or accept. Another perspective to the pile.
I think you may have nailed it. And in my case the ignorance was not willful but just plain ignorant.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19377089 - 01/06/14 12:17 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Yeah I went back and forth over the word willful. I stuck with it because at any point, in theory, we can look around at what is present. It isn't likely so cut and dry of course. I steer clear of many gruesome videos floating on the internet due to not wanting to subject myself to that trauma. Could I choose to see it otherwise? I don't know. What I know is that I steer clear.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19377275 - 01/06/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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I think the more distressing thing, and related, is how we don't seem to have much in the way of an absolute requirement for contentedness in terms of physical, relational, comforts. If you have a nice house in the hood, you feel rich. If you have the same house in a rich neighborhood you feel poor. If you live in Detroit and are married to a spouse who makes $50,000 a year, you may feel like he's a catch, if you live in Beverly Hills and your neighbors are married to lawyers making 100k+, you may feel embarrased.
I've noticed this with myself a lot, and I've tried to stop chasing material goods, fashion, et cet and tried to simplify my life. I think it helps. I don't worry about getting a new phone and purposely use an old shitty one I could replace for $20.
BTW, never heard of scrub jays, but they seem neat. I don't know how well I'd put up with this nonsense, though:
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19377391 - 01/06/14 02:07 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Music is a good example. I can hear a favorite song so many times than I avoid it like the plague. It actually bugs me.
Oh, sometimes LSD helps me hear music with clean ears again, when I have that problem.
Yes of course but why does it happen in the first place?
I think it's something to do with a disconnect between the interests of the body/instinctual mind and the interests of the ego. The two don't seem to develop fluidly.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Grapefruit]
#19377419 - 01/06/14 02:11 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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I think it is because we are more complex creatures than the amoeba.
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Speak for yourself.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19377570 - 01/06/14 02:43 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Icelander said:
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Kickle said: Maybe this is an illustration of willful ignorance more than anything. Similar to when an idea sounds great on paper but not in reality. Its usually because only certain aspects of life are actually being examined. When looking at the bird your neighbor fixated on one quality and became enamored. As the familiarity set in the other qualities became more apparent due to the fixation losing power. This would likely be true for your goals as well.
I don't know if familiarity breeds contempt as much as familiarity reveals qualities we prefer not to acknowledge or accept. Another perspective to the pile.
I think you may have nailed it. And in my case the ignorance was not willful but just plain ignorant.
That is also just the reality of living with somebody (be it family or bird). You can be quite familiar with somebody and their idiosyncrasies and totally see past them until you are around them at your worst, then those idiosyncrasies become quite irritating.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19377809 - 01/06/14 03:35 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Speak for yourself. 
i do, am I alone?
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We are all alone.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19378155 - 01/06/14 05:12 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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always enjoy a double standard
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Don't lose your sense of humor Red.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19378507 - 01/06/14 06:15 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Kickle said: Maybe this is an illustration of willful ignorance more than anything. Similar to when an idea sounds great on paper but not in reality. Its usually because only certain aspects of life are actually being examined. When looking at the bird your neighbor fixated on one quality and became enamored. As the familiarity set in the other qualities became more apparent due to the fixation losing power. This would likely be true for your goals as well.
I don't know if familiarity breeds contempt as much as familiarity reveals qualities we prefer not to acknowledge or accept. Another perspective to the pile.
I think you are right to a large degree.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19378553 - 01/06/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Don't lose your sense of humor Red.
You seem like a pretty cool dude but do some people here hate you lol? Reading random shit/old shit makes me think this :P
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
#19378761 - 01/06/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Don't lose your sense of humor Red.
You seem like a pretty cool dude but do some people here hate you lol? Reading random shit/old shit makes me think this :P
I only hate him 49% of the time, which makes him the cat's meow in my book.
insert a pretty smile emoticon here
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
#19378763 - 01/06/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Why yes, yes they do. Do you think Red hates me?
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19378769 - 01/06/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Don't lose your sense of humor Red.
You seem like a pretty cool dude but do some people here hate you lol? Reading random shit/old shit makes me think this :P
I only hate him 49% of the time, which makes him the cat's meow in my book.
insert a pretty smile emoticon here
I must work harder, I must, I must.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: Icelander]
#19378805 - 01/06/14 07:07 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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I wouldn't say that...Maybe thinly-veiled, impatient, aggression? Im just talking shite though so...maybe he just thinks your a tool?
I only just discovered the plus sign on all the emoticons....excellent
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: iarphairc]
#19378835 - 01/06/14 07:12 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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I must work harder, I must, I must. 
You know that only curries favor 
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iarphairc said: I wouldn't say that...Maybe thinly-veiled, impatient, aggression? Im just talking shite though so...maybe he just thinks your a tool?
I only just discovered the plus sign on all the emoticons....excellent 
when you know them without the smiley button you're a true shroomerite.
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Re: Familiarity breeds contempt? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19378923 - 01/06/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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when you know them without the smiley button you're a true shroomerite.
One day....
This shit is ridiculous....I'm gonna stop looking through so I can have another days entertainment
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