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Re: One perfect moment [Re: foliocb]
    #19373955 - 01/05/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i'd trade every moment of my existence for that one 'perfect' moment





See, that's what I'm sayin. :satansmoking:


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Hobozen]
    #19374719 - 01/05/14 08:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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got some supposedly amazing lsd on the way, I'm so ready for more hints of perfection to spice things up.  it's been years, the river's gone dry and stale.



see that's what I'm sayin (except blankk said it and he just might share)


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19374789 - 01/05/14 09:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My tripping days are over I fear.  I need sedation.


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19374869 - 01/05/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

this depakote taken ~7-9 days on 4-6 days off (off to prevent depression and dependency) is providing a nice subtle sedate stabilization for my manic mind, and the side-effects seem non-existent compared to anti-depressants or anti-psychotics.  I once thought my drug days were over because of the mania but this seems to provide quite the potent yet gentle balance.  though, only time and tripping will tell for sure. :popcorn:


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19375523 - 01/06/14 01:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
My tripping days are over I fear.  I need sedation.





I use to think also in my youth how drugs are fake experience of something true

where I learnt how experiencing is always a negative thing, from where own passivity is obvious while letting unconscious matters taking over own self which become tied like an inferior thing

freedom is the essential reason of any positive sense

that is why the illusion that usually drugs provide is only about being free

it can harm deeply because it is reversing the fact by being totally fake

but I learnt also how impossible it is to be truly free, while I keep rejecting that objective fact and keep being myself freedom.. I cant see anything but when it is free, so I cant be otherwise even though I really tried to be like everyone else


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: absols]
    #19375779 - 01/06/14 04:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

We are all just doing what we can to make it through our days.  You do whatever works and as long as you are not physically harming another I approve.  As you noticed, there is no freedom, just doing.  So let us do what we do.  :satansmoking:


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19375881 - 01/06/14 05:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it is more the fact that the only way is superiority, so the plus that no one can stop and the more the plus is a fact the more it is true so it has some effects out that makes it more impossible to stop, at least by dealing with the plus directly

the plus since it is the truth so existence facts, is bluntly any free move that justify its rejection to everything being in positive terms
whether by proving the negative of things being absolutely or by doing something more out of everything limits, more useful then all reality to any issue of being still ...

but yes definitely we have to do a lot to get free of all present powers erasing the fact of ours existence rights

but me, I don't want my existence rights I don't care about it much, especially because existence sucks and I am true
that is why I keep yelling in absolute gibberish ways for anything up to move its ass for those edges that cant be acceptable in anyways nor anywhere ...


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: absols]
    #19375929 - 01/06/14 05:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so your gibberish is a kind of magical incantation?


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19375952 - 01/06/14 06:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

NOoooo.. it is just speed means that I mean to prove through some facts

the point of truth, is what for each positive end something superior show up .. that is how existence is a definitive fact while superiority is the always that can never stop .. the package within existence I guess through different objective freedoms rights secretly known to be positively free consciously

positive freedom as an objective fact is a necessity for truth superiority, the only and exclusive always facts...


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: absols]
    #19376016 - 01/06/14 06:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Prove to who?  Why?

Existence sucks and you are true.  That's unpleasant at best.
At worst it's hellish.  Maybe that's why you're so cranky?:lol:
It's why I get cranky. But then humor rescues me in a fashion. It's not a cure for sure but it's a good pain reliever. But maybe none of this is painful for you. 

It's too bad really that I find it so difficult to decipher your posts. I think you and I might have much to agree on.  But I'm a great kidder and you don't seem to be and that is a difference.  I used to cry a lot but now I prefer gallows laughter.  It's cleansing for me at least and I'm pretty dirty inside. 

Back to topic, I'll take my perfect day if given a choice. Even though I know I'll give up a lot of semi great moments I'll also be giving up some serious suffering.  When I ask myself the question has it all been worth it I always answer no. :shrug:  I haven't been able to get over this depression.

The advertisement that leads into this vid just about sez it all.:monkeydance:  But this song by JC as always hit home for me.  And hell I've got it good compared to so many.

 


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376036 - 01/06/14 06:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

mods;
can we add a rule:
" NO PERSISTENT ABSOLUTE GIBBERISH "

i.e.
suspend with discretion, all members who admit to gibberish on an ongoing basis


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19376076 - 01/06/14 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Or you could just not read their posts. :shrug:  Much of what you write I consider undecipherable.  I just skip that stuff usually.  I tried talking to you about it but you weren't having any. :wink:


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19376082 - 01/06/14 07:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it is crazy on what regular basis you want to abuse another word ..as your ways of staying up to your mind..

I said gibberish because some posters call my posts that way, so as a reply to that too
but not that I could ever mean that word about anything ..

on the contrary to me absolute thing cant be but clarity, so I guess it is beyond gibberish opposites so what my posts can never meet ..


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376132 - 01/06/14 07:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
Or you could just not read their posts. :shrug:  Much of what you write I consider undecipherable.  I just skip that stuff usually.  I tried talking to you about it but you weren't having any. :wink:



you and a few others try to discount my creativity,
I don't blame you.
we are not all equal in every way all the time
but at least some times we mesh intelligently - that is increasingly valuable.


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19376154 - 01/06/14 07:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't discount it any more than you are with the other poster. 
And I don't discount it overall.  It's pretty indecipherable is what I was saying and for the sake of clear communications I was trying to get you to speak english.  None of the Ps in this forum stand for Poet. :wink:


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376176 - 01/06/14 07:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The life I live isnt really mine.. it just is. I have met perfection.. it is in everything you see.. (figuratively speaking) . I cannot really say I have anything, but I would give it to a fitting cause. Furthermore, I will not strive to accieve perfection.. it will, as anything else only be kept out of reach... whhat a strange question indeed.


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icyus]
    #19376192 - 01/06/14 08:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well don't take that word to literally.  By "perfect" I mean a moment or time when you are completely satisfied and content with everything. Nothing to be added or subtracted on the physical and emotional levels.  I used to call them golden moments.


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19376207 - 01/06/14 08:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't think of a perfect moment.  There have been moments i'm content.  Usually that happens when i learn to accept things as they are, right now, the way they're suppose to be.   

A perfect moment would be feeling 100% free.  From society, government, money, drugs, false expectations, guilt, self loathing, etc.  Being able to exist and feel comfortable as a person, without need or want for anything external.


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
    #19376210 - 01/06/14 08:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I know what you mean .. I see it like innocence impossible thing to assume alone ..

by definition, being innocent is a witness .. so when it is about oneself conscious it is impossible to be objective about .. especially when we are conditioned to be through evil powers all the way, so it is never us what we look like .. while we are us more then any other way .. when it is through others negative forciful sources on ourselves rights ..

it is like that supernatural powers want us to look like more animals consciously .. it is creepy how those powers think always the cheapest and most inferior way to rule over everything more

animals by definition don't realize being that is why they are associating with things as objects realities.. the condition meaning that humans are conscious animals is also by definition totally and fundamentally opposed to truth and existence rights .. that must be exclusively true

prove to who ?? well, proving being free, when I can say all positive ends by doing it right.. when I prove being free objectively then I am right in asking my way in truth ..

but I always hate proving that even when I was young, I couldn't get how I have to keep doing this .. when I am not what I do .. when we are positive sources we are then free existing fact

who could ever guess that all spaces are filled with egoists that don't care at all about anyone else nor anything out of their own interests in seeing or watching all different realities ..

who could ever guess that even truth freedom is opposed to being true, as if truth means its freedom out of truth .. because I guess truth in truth is infinite so none freedom
then freedom is a plus that even truth wants to get careless about truth values and objective existence rights ..

laughing to me is free, like animals don't laugh

but I am true, that is why I cant laugh when freedom do not exist objectively at all

that is how it is of evil sources means, forcing us to laugh about anything and everything .. the freedom ways of evil wills and life

that is how in the common sense of everybody, laughing is mostly by making fun of others while forcing them to inferiority realms and to lies deformations of themselves rights

I stopped to laugh at a very early age, when I realized that there is something wrong definitely, things are not right nor fair at all inherently or willingly.. so any positive reaction to everything is wrong, because I am kind of true that is why I don't act that, I really cannot laugh anymore .. I just smile or realize the fun I see ..

anyway I was never comfortable in seeing myself .. now I know why.. we are incredibly possessed .. any move is consciously done by someone else not us .. it is not free nor for free .. that is why we must also reject that which is very hard .. that is mostly what I do .. reaching absolutes to prove how our conditions are free and those powers are only to steal our rights and truth rights

I guess conscious beings have a long ways of struggles to make them all up forget about animals beings .. I guess also true up is going to become objective existence so right individualities would become at the end free

but till then right beings like us, must defend themselves freedom and act right continuously while insulting up for not being but evil entities ..

I used to listen to jimmy cliff also .. the pioneer of rasta music, among other things .. but to me, there is no way to go unfortunately, it is all here, just the mean to destroy evil forever .. so things would be all rights .. and conscious (selves) would be all free .. and existence would be true

so when we are not happy we can just rest of doing anything, we could like die normally .. that would be interesting for me to do

but for now, we are forced to fight as it is not only about killing us alive, but also for me the disgust of having to keep watching the powers of lies and inferior forces over all and any value

thank you Icelander for tolerating me, I guess you get me right .. I cant but keep inventing more or saying all I see and know.. so I seem like I am showing off but I am not that at all


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Re: One perfect moment [Re: absols]
    #19376225 - 01/06/14 08:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It would be easier to count the times I am not content and satifyed with everything.


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